I see, so Mirio's cape was basically the catalist to that.
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My Hero Academia (Shonen Jump) move over pirates, ninjas, reapers, its Hero time
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I see, so Mirio's cape was basically the catalist to that.
Makes much more sense if it's the case.
Ok hopefully it is this.
MHWilliams
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She's going to be crazy powerful if she learns to control that. That's Omega level, to use an X-Men term.
Trojita
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There's a high likelihood that Eri's awakened power also gives her control to bring things back into existence. Which means Mirio is probably going to get his power back.
Overhaul's power is dismantle and repair. Since Eri never learned how to use her quirk she only had one half of her similar power working, the part that makes things not exist. With her awakening it is likely she'll get the "makes exist" part of her power.
Yep yep. It is an OP tier power.
Overhaul's power is dismantle and repair. Since Eri never learned how to use her quirk she only had one half of her similar power working, the part that makes things not exist. With her awakening it is likely she'll get the "makes exist" part of her power.
Yep yep. It is an OP tier power.
JonnyDBrit
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In the meantime, it gives a decent enough reason why she wouldn't become a major asset even if the heroes do rescue her. She's a traumatised child with the ability to potentially destroy anything - maybe wait a bit before encouraging her to figure it out.
PaulBizkit
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Ok, so it rewinds/undoes indefinitely... until it stops existing.
She'll just rewind a corpse until it disappears...
OMG, DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A BNHA MANGA THREAD. Shit, I thought we had the anime thread only.
Shh that brings most of my questions back.
PaulBizkit
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"You come from nothing
You goin' back to nothing
what've ya lost? noothing!"
The Monty Python said it best, when you die, your "state" goes BACK. So, rewinding a dead body would be making it disappear.
Man, this translation was weird, but god damn, I love that character development. I was worried that she was just going to be this weird stand in for "rescuing girls is what makes a hero!", but they've turned her into someone with a motivation and real impact on the development of the story.
I guess, I just didn't like that we got here when literally the last chapter had her running back to Overhaul out of fear.
Wouldn't be believable at all.
NHarmonic.
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MHA can't win.
Loved the chapter, still curious about deku dying, though.
Loved the chapter, still curious about deku dying, though.
If he is going with that there are clues with the boss stating her quirk is nothing like her parents but similar to overhaul
It is also said that, while this anomaly is rare, it is possible. Chisaki told them that she is not his daughter. He could be hiding the fact that she is his daughter, or he just don't know for sure.I believe she isn't his daughter, but I know it is possible.
About the translation, I don't think that "rewind" is such a bad translation, but I agree it makes things confusing to most, so, it could be better. If we assume that something can be rewinded until it doesn't exist, or rewind the previous action to make it exist again, it is all the same.
Edit: It is on a complete different level if she can only make something exist or not, and there is no middle ground.
Yup. Completely agree. To me if it can be controlled to a specific time, rewind seems best. If it is events, undo or revert are better.
FlowersisBritish
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I'm glad that its a translation error because that makes her power make more sense. Except for how OH and Henchman are back to normal? Like, is her power basically magic and can undo a guy getting ripped into literal pieces? That seems much, even by MHA standards.
We've been at Stand Powers for a while now tbh Remember Cronenberg guy?
Trojita
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Deku Toga or a Deku Twice Clone could always bite it lol.
We haven't seen Twice use his power to clone another person in awhile. Last time I remember him making a clone was Dabi. Wonder what would happen if he cloned Deku, since the clones have the same appearance, personality, and Quirk as the original.
We haven't seen Twice use his power to clone another person in awhile. Last time I remember him making a clone was Dabi. Wonder what would happen if he cloned Deku, since the clones have the same appearance, personality, and Quirk as the original.
He only needs Deku's measurements so he could get that when Toga was transformed
I didn't thought of a clone Deku been the one Nighteye saw dying. That would be an amazing fit to Nighteye quirk. Good thinking o/
pelicansurf
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I thought Nighteye saw Overhaul take the girl with him and escape too? Unless maybe the scene he saw was Overhaul with girl reaching out towards the ceiling like he was this chapter, before he was unceremoniously split.
If it is more time based, maybe Eris Quirk is a hard counter to Nighteyes predictions.
thats an interesting thought and would make sense.
Nighteye should only be able to predict things that exist and their timeline. Eri making Overhauls fused form not exist at that moment in time should have broken the timeline that nighteye saw. It might also suggest he had no idea that Mirio's quirk would not exist based on his predictions (since if this is right then mirio never lost it in his predictions)
If the black panel is what nighteye saw directly that it could perhaps explain why he saw nothing.
Dedication Through Light
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Give mirio his quirk back please, shonen jump is a magazine of hope not despair.
Pretty interesting chapter. Eri's the first female character I've seen with a bonkers-ass overpowered quirk (yes, dragon lady's pretty big and strong, but she hasn't shown any feats beyond Mt Lady thus far), and the very nature of that quirk could crack the entire setting wide open. Curious to see how things go from here.
I fully expect it'll be reined in somehow, but not before some of the more dire consequences of this raid get undone.
I fully expect it'll be reined in somehow, but not before some of the more dire consequences of this raid get undone.
Relax. He'll recover one way or another.
Yeah, if Mirio ever gets his quirk back it should be somewhere near the end of the series after years of Eri training her quirk or people researching it AFTER she recovered from her mental trauma. If ever.
Also, some interesting theory: Eri gets kidnapped by LoV (almost a sure thing IMO), she remains with them in safety until Shigaraki busts AfO from the prison and if we'd go with the route AfO transferring his quirk to Shigaraki - Eri would be a perfect first quirk user to give away her quirk to Shigaraki, willingly too considering how much suffering it brought to her. This way if/when Eri gets to the heroes' side later we won't have another busted overpowered ability on good guys' side and wouldn't be able to magically return Mirio's quirk back.
Although I don't think it'd have happened any time soon and personally I'd prefer Shigaraki helping Eri with her mental trauma and teach her how to use her quirk and not be scared of it. They've both terrible childhood because of their quirks (as well as heroes taking their sweet time to save them) so he'd be the right person to help.
Also, some interesting theory: Eri gets kidnapped by LoV (almost a sure thing IMO), she remains with them in safety until Shigaraki busts AfO from the prison and if we'd go with the route AfO transferring his quirk to Shigaraki - Eri would be a perfect first quirk user to give away her quirk to Shigaraki, willingly too considering how much suffering it brought to her. This way if/when Eri gets to the heroes' side later we won't have another busted overpowered ability on good guys' side and wouldn't be able to magically return Mirio's quirk back.
Although I don't think it'd have happened any time soon and personally I'd prefer Shigaraki helping Eri with her mental trauma and teach her how to use her quirk and not be scared of it. They've both terrible childhood because of their quirks (as well as heroes taking their sweet time to save them) so he'd be the right person to help.
Even if Eri's quirk is super broken and can undo everything, even her own undoings. She will take time to learn how to use it. The only reason she used correctly this time is the emotional strenght that she got seeing Mirio's cape.
Or at least it is waht I expect, it would be really weird a child dominate a super complex quirk like hers and UA students still having ways to go with less complex quirks.
Or at least it is waht I expect, it would be really weird a child dominate a super complex quirk like hers and UA students still having ways to go with less complex quirks.
EmCeeGramr
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Maybe she could train it later, but so far the actual powers Eri has shown are nowhere near as granular and easily used as people have been fearing.
-She instantly rewound her dad to seemingly nonexistence
-When Chisaki used it on the mouse, it seemed to instantly rewind to some tiny smears of organic matter
-On the quirk chart with the families, Eri's was represented with a goopy stain
-Chisaki seemingly knows what he's talking about regarding the science, so I don't see him overlooking the "well maybe it's not permanent, it just rewinds the Quirk to its birth state and then redevelops" argument when he insists it's permanent. I think the temporary bullets just weren't potent enough, and didn't get all of the target's genes/plus-alpha, allowing the body to regenerate them, while the finished version can instantly spread through the entire body and instantly rewind all of the genes/plus-alpha to base organic compounds before the body can react, in which case there's nothing to redevelop over time.
-I've seen people use her breaking up Fused Overhaul as proof she can choose exactly when on a timeline to rewind a person, but under Shonen Law™, a fused person is a new entity. Chisaki blew himself up as part of the fusion process with Nemoto and mixed them both together, and therefore I think what happened is she automatically rewound "Nemoto!Chisaki" to the point that "it" no longer existed: "it" was automatically reduced to "its constituent parts": Chisaki and Nemoto and some rocks I guess. Eri had no conscious control over it.
As a result, I don't think she (at yet, at least) has the ability to do something as fine and precise as fixing a dude with a hole in his chest, or a Quirkless individual: she'd at best just make them a toddler Mirio who's permanently quirkless, or a Nighteye with less wrinkles but still a missing arm and hole in his chest.
Now watch Horikoshi actually explain the rules of her Quirk in the coming weeks and it's totally different to what I'm saying.
-She instantly rewound her dad to seemingly nonexistence
-When Chisaki used it on the mouse, it seemed to instantly rewind to some tiny smears of organic matter
-On the quirk chart with the families, Eri's was represented with a goopy stain
-Chisaki seemingly knows what he's talking about regarding the science, so I don't see him overlooking the "well maybe it's not permanent, it just rewinds the Quirk to its birth state and then redevelops" argument when he insists it's permanent. I think the temporary bullets just weren't potent enough, and didn't get all of the target's genes/plus-alpha, allowing the body to regenerate them, while the finished version can instantly spread through the entire body and instantly rewind all of the genes/plus-alpha to base organic compounds before the body can react, in which case there's nothing to redevelop over time.
-I've seen people use her breaking up Fused Overhaul as proof she can choose exactly when on a timeline to rewind a person, but under Shonen Law™, a fused person is a new entity. Chisaki blew himself up as part of the fusion process with Nemoto and mixed them both together, and therefore I think what happened is she automatically rewound "Nemoto!Chisaki" to the point that "it" no longer existed: "it" was automatically reduced to "its constituent parts": Chisaki and Nemoto and some rocks I guess. Eri had no conscious control over it.
As a result, I don't think she (at yet, at least) has the ability to do something as fine and precise as fixing a dude with a hole in his chest, or a Quirkless individual: she'd at best just make them a toddler Mirio who's permanently quirkless, or a Nighteye with less wrinkles but still a missing arm and hole in his chest.
Now watch Horikoshi actually explain the rules of her Quirk in the coming weeks and it's totally different to what I'm saying.
Pesmerga00
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Yeah. We are going to have to wait for a clarification. I'm just hoping it is very limited, or at least have some drawbacks.
It seems kinda similar to Kumagawa. While one of my favorite characters, he would only fit into a series like Medaka Box. I really don't need an Eri capable of undoing concepts.
Yea, Quirks really are getting up there with DFs, Nen, and Stands lol
I don't really have any issue with it, I just find it humorous at how crazy some of these powers are considering that they're all supposed to be biology-based, as opposed to just being straight up magic lol
I read comics with mutants and such where the powers are supposed to be biological but are straight up magic so I should be used to it
Its the comics inspiration
Like Scarlet witch, whose mutant power is that basically she can do magic
Some of Overhaul's previous statements on how her Quirk can only destroy and kill people makes me think that she definitely can't heal someone back to a healthy state. Of course that could just be him further abusing her. If she can heal people by rewinding she shouldn't have great control over it and I'm hoping that it doesn't end up being that she tries to heal Nighteye like that and she gets it right the first time.
That'd be needlessly edgy lol
Yeah, I don't mind it either, but I do hope one day we get a battle shonen that is sorta grounded in it's rules.
Jesus, sadly this made me laugh lol.
Caught up on the anime (stuck to the dub). Man Eric Vale is great as Shigaraki.
Can't wait for Season 3 with the Camping Trip and... oooooooooh shiiiiiit. The anime community is going to explode!
And hey, the current manga arc seems to be wrapping up as well.
Can't wait for Season 3 with the Camping Trip and... oooooooooh shiiiiiit. The anime community is going to explode!
And hey, the current manga arc seems to be wrapping up as well.
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