Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

GermanZepp

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He mentions religion and everyone here immediately thinks it's going to be an attack on a known religion, and ready to rake it personally.....smh. its not hard to make up a religion with cult like characteristics, which I'm assuming it will contain.

Y'all are just trying hard to hate the game at this point.
Trying? :messenger_relieved: (n) :messenger_sunglasses: I hate it already.
 

Pedro Motta

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Trying? :messenger_relieved: (n) :messenger_sunglasses: I hate it already.
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Ya, I don’t give a shit if people think it’s woke. I think it looks awesome. I have yet to play a bad naughty dog game. TLOU part 2 had a mid story, but everything else with the game was S Tier.

The animations in TLOU2 are still a tier above most AAA games on the market today, and it's been almost half a decade.

Yes, this interview was incredible. The 2 are so in sync with their taste.

Awesome to hear how 28 Days Later inspired TLOU, and how TLOU went on to inspire Garlands upcoming 28 Years Later.
These are a couple of my fav creators ever in their perspective mediums. And was awesome to hear Druckmann say how Civil War would have made an awesome video game. We think alike. First thing I said when I saw it.

Glad to see Garland's involved too; loved 28 Days Later. But is it just me, or does 28 Weeks Later just seem to get memory-holed? I liked that one too, even if Days was the better film.

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Yeah this “false” “fictional” religion is GUARANTEED to be soooooo “coincidentally” close to Christianity only someone like you with a single digit iq will claim otherwise

Wonder if you hold this same feeling over the SMT games. You can kill Yahweh in those :/

Or perhaps we allow all religion to be criticised in media rather than being fearful of criticising some (or one in particular).

Why does this suddenly hinge completely on Intergalatic?

why copypasta from that shithole? wtf

Trust me if I had the time I'd not done so, but was quite busy. And I didn't want to copy the write-up without giving credit to who wrote it to begin with.
 

"With The Last of Us 2, we made certain creative decisions that got us a lot of hate. A lot of people love it, but a lot of people hate that game."

"Who gives a shit," Garland quipped.

"We released a trailer for The Last of Us 2 where we faked a shot, and we showed Joel somewhere where he would never make it to because of things that happened in that story …’

"Again, who gives a shit," Garland responded.



I don’t necessarily disagree that games shouldn’t aim to please all fans, but Garland’s comments don’t inspire a lot of confidence and seems to hint at a bit of the old ‘own the chuds’ attitude.
 
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Elog

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I don’t necessarily disagree that games shouldn’t aim to please all fans, but Garland’s comments don’t inspire a lot of confidence and seems to hint at a bit of the old ‘own the chuds’ attitude.
Personally I prefer developers to do the game they want to do instead of compromising left, right and center. Then I make my choice as a consumer whether I buy it or not. Makes for more interesting games overall. So I respect Garland in that sense.
 

cormack12

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Well if you lie about something in the game then it's not who gives a shit is it really. It's cheap.

How can you subvert expectations when you created the expectations? There's a reason why films don't have scenes not in the film in the trailer.

Smells like he just wants to kiss Neil's ass.
 

Bernardougf

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I wonder when became A'ok for 200-400 million blockbuster games to be "cultish" edgy very controversial and divisive products that dont have to appeal to its own fans ... treating this kind of game like some indy art passion project that dont have to account for the maximum sales possible is truly a bizarre form of business , but hey as long as Sony is happy financing Cuckmans fart smelling ideas for progressively diminishing returns, "who gives a shit?" certainly not him.
 
When did I suggest it did?

Well you suddenly went into that idea in a thread about Intergalatic, so something about the game must make you think it has a responsibility to ascribe by the point you were making.

I mean, did you say anything similar in, say, the GTA6 thread? Or Forza Horizon 5 threads? Astro Bot? If you look at them hard enough I'm sure you can find religious undertones in games like those too, so why does Intergalatic get the blunt treatment?


"With The Last of Us 2, we made certain creative decisions that got us a lot of hate. A lot of people love it, but a lot of people hate that game."

"Who gives a shit," Garland quipped.

"We released a trailer for The Last of Us 2 where we faked a shot, and we showed Joel somewhere where he would never make it to because of things that happened in that story …’

"Again, who gives a shit," Garland responded.



I don’t necessarily disagree that games shouldn’t aim to please all fans, but Garland’s comments don’t inspire a lot of confidence and seems to hint at a bit of the old ‘own the chuds’ attitude.

Eh, I think this is more you reading into it what you want to read into it. For one chuds weren't the only people upset with TLOU2's story. Quite a few 'normies' were shocked and upset with Joel's death in that game, too. Maybe some of them ended up hating the game for it; others came to respect the game regardless even if they didn't like that part of the story, and others still came to accept that story beat and enjoy the game even more as a result.

To this day I still think Joel's death could've been handled differently and in a better way, so technically I'm probably one of those people Garland would say "who gives a shit?" to, even if I otherwise quite appreciate the game and respect the story (in hindsight; at the time I was a lot less favorable towards it). Even so I'll just shrug that off and say there's a difference of opinion. I don't need to resort to accusing them of a personal attack, or make up reasons to get in my feels about it.

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God/Yahweh one in the same bc Jesus was a Jew.

That's what some believe 😉

He's actually a 9th dimension Reptilizard
 

EN250

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Or perhaps we allow all religion to be criticised in media rather than being fearful of criticising some (or one in particular).

You sure you want that, or "all religion" defaults to the same as usual?

Because Catholicism is being moked left and right everyday, by extent all levels of Christianity, we're way past criticism with that religion

Muslim? Hinduism? Buddhism? Judaism?

Bet you can't come up with a way to try it 😂
 
Well you suddenly went into that idea in a thread about Intergalatic, so something about the game must make you think it has a responsibility to ascribe by the point you were making.

I mean, did you say anything similar in, say, the GTA6 thread? Or Forza Horizon 5 threads? Astro Bot? If you look at them hard enough I'm sure you can find religious undertones in games like those too, so why does Intergalatic get the blunt treatment?



Eh, I think this is more you reading into it what you want to read into it. For one chuds weren't the only people upset with TLOU2's story. Quite a few 'normies' were shocked and upset with Joel's death in that game, too. Maybe some of them ended up hating the game for it; others came to respect the game regardless even if they didn't like that part of the story, and others still came to accept that story beat and enjoy the game even more as a result.

To this day I still think Joel's death could've been handled differently and in a better way, so technically I'm probably one of those people Garland would say "who gives a shit?" to, even if I otherwise quite appreciate the game and respect the story (in hindsight; at the time I was a lot less favorable towards it). Even so I'll just shrug that off and say there's a difference of opinion. I don't need to resort to accusing them of a personal attack, or make up reasons to get in my feels about it.



That's what some believe 😉

He's actually a 9th dimension Reptilizard
Well the topic of religious criticism isn’t appropriate for any of those other games so why would I post anything about it there?

I think you’re just getting a bit sensitive about your perceived criticisms of Naughty Dog games.
 
You sure you want that, or "all religion" defaults to the same as usual?

Because Catholicism is being moked left and right everyday, by extent all levels of Christianity, we're way past criticism with that religion

Muslim? Hinduism? Buddhism? Judaism?

Bet you can't come up with a way to try it 😂
I’d have much more respect for Western media if it genuinely criticised Islam … seems to be off limits though
 
There are many games with religious themes, so Druckmann is not the one to revolutionize this medium. The problem with him is that he's very dogmatic, and dogmatic people shove things in your face, and that's the last thing I want in a space opera.

Nier Automata is very religious, from the start to the true ending. It's beautifully written and doesn't need to put religion at the forefront to deliver the message. It's profound without forgetting that, above all, it's a video game, and games must be fun.

I wish Intergalactic went that route instead of explicitly talking about prophets, promised land, and stuff.
 



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Never even once did Neil mention Christianity...ever.

That article reads like something my aunt would share on facebook with no knowledge whatsoever.
 

GooseMan69

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You people are like Facebook boomers at this point with how often you get baited.
 
Well the topic of religious criticism isn’t appropriate for any of those other games so why would I post anything about it there?

I think you’re just getting a bit sensitive about your perceived criticisms of Naughty Dog games.

Not really; I'm not even the biggest ND fan around these parts or in general. But you have to also understand it's unrealistic to expect one game to represent or critique all religions, right? Because if you're asking "well why doesn't it criticize Islam?" for example, you're assuming already that it doesn't, and that it's purposefully trying to insult your preferred religion otherwise.

We don't even know what the story for this game is yet. Let's hold off on those assumptions until at least then?
 
Not really; I'm not even the biggest ND fan around these parts or in general. But you have to also understand it's unrealistic to expect one game to represent or critique all religions, right? Because if you're asking "well why doesn't it criticize Islam?" for example, you're assuming already that it doesn't, and that it's purposefully trying to insult your preferred religion otherwise.

We don't even know what the story for this game is yet. Let's hold off on those assumptions until at least then?
If you read my comment I wasn’t even referring to Intergalactic, I was making a general comment about criticism of religion in media.

I’m not insulted on behalf of any religion, I just feel it’s hypocritical to accept strong criticism of some religions, while others are seemingly given a free pass because people are afraid to criticise them.
 
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Not really; I'm not even the biggest ND fan around these parts or in general. But you have to also understand it's unrealistic to expect one game to represent or critique all religions, right? Because if you're asking "well why doesn't it criticize Islam?" for example, you're assuming already that it doesn't, and that it's purposefully trying to insult your preferred religion otherwise.

We don't even know what the story for this game is yet. Let's hold off on those assumptions until at least then?
I think betting on this game being woke af is one of the safest bets a person could make.
 
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