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NeoGAF Camera Equipment Thread | MK II

I'm a freelance TV camera operator working primarily with PGA Tour. When I'm out at tournaments I'll use my 5D to take photos for them to feed to their social media channels (and mine), and occasionally they'll hire me and ask that I use my gear exclusively (mainly for tournaments where their ENG cameras are being used by another crew).

Gonna be at the Byron Nelson tomorrow, looked up spectator photography rules and basically no DSLR's. :(

Booooooooooooooooooo.

I was looking to get some good shots of the hometown hero but unfortunately that ain't happening. I can't really complain though, I'm getting in for free so eh lol.
 

brerwolfe

Member
Gonna be at the Byron Nelson tomorrow, looked up spectator photography rules and basically no DSLR's. :(

Booooooooooooooooooo.

I was looking to get some good shots of the hometown hero but unfortunately that ain't happening. I can't really complain though, I'm getting in for free so eh lol.
I've been working at the Nelson all week! Driving over to Colonial on Monday. Message me if you'd like some tickets and I can try to leave some at Will Call.
 
I've been working at the Nelson all week! Driving over to Colonial on Monday. Message me if you'd like some tickets and I can try to leave some at Will Call.

Really?

That'd be awesome man!

I need to find out my schedule for the week so once I find out, I'll definitely hit you up!
 

Dazzla

Member
I lost touch with my photography a few years ago and sold all of my kit last year. I've got the urge again now I have a few family events coming up so bought myself a OM-D E-M10 Mark II. Anyone own one of these? How do you get on with it? Mine arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.

I was looking at the A6000 / A5100 / XT10 and the OM-D. All seemed to review really well but the control layout and built in IS drew me to the Olympus. The cashback currently running was a sweetener as well :)
 
Last night I purchased this Wide Angle Minolta Maxxum 24mm prime AF f/2.8 lens.

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This is my first Minolta Maxxum lens, and I'm excited to pair it with my A58 (the A65 I mentioned purchasing in an earlier post arrived damaged, unfortunately). Do these Maxxum lenses hook up directly to Sony A-Mount cameras or am I going to need to purchase an adapter before it arrives? I know they're both A-Mount, so I don't see why I'd need an adapter, but my online research confuses me as I see many have.

Please help CameraGAF.
 
Last night I purchased this Wide Angle Minolta Maxxum 24mm prime AF f/2.8 lens.

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This is my first Minolta Maxxum lens, and I'm excited to pair it with my A58 (the A65 I mentioned purchasing in an earlier post arrived damaged, unfortunately). Do these Maxxum lenses hook up directly to Sony A-Mount cameras or am I going to need to purchase an adapter before it arrives? I know they're both A-Mount, so I don't see why I'd need an adapter, but my online research confuses me as I see many have.

Please help CameraGAF.

No need for an adapter. Working out of the box, AF is reasonably fast.
The colour rendition is fantastic, but don't expect too much sharpness. These are old lens designs.
Flickr pool:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/minolta24mm28/pool/
 

diaspora

Member
Upgrading from a 5D mkIII but I'll still keep it.

I'm a freelance TV camera operator working primarily with PGA Tour. When I'm out at tournaments I'll use my 5D to take photos for them to feed to their social media channels (and mine), and occasionally they'll hire me and ask that I use my gear exclusively (mainly for tournaments where their ENG cameras are being used by another crew).

This camera is way more camera photography-wise then I'll ever need, but for video it's what I've been waiting for for a long time. It just happens to (have the potential to) take phenomenal photos as well.

A colleague was able to get me a slight discount, $300 off, and it'll come with a 64gb Cfast card and reader.
you son of a bitch

envy is real
 
I take it that the adapters are for the non Maxxum, Minolta lenses then? That makes sense. Thanks for the quick response.

Maxxum was the American branding for Minolta. No differences apart from that. And all of the Minolta AF stuff is natively compatible with A-Mount, so no adapters needed. (Adapters only for the E-Mount of the A7 series or the much older Minolta MD mount flm lenses.)
 
Thanks again, Art! You're always such a help in this thread.

Something tells me I'm going to develop quite a collection of these 80's Minoltas.

My poor, poor wallet.
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EDIT: Do you have any experience with the AF Minolta kit? Any favorites I should keep an eye out for?
 
EDIT: Do you have any experience with the AF Minolta kit? Any favorites I should keep an eye out for?

I only used two of the AF primes myself.
The nifty fifty 50mm 1.7 still is a great lens, on the APS-C cameras like the A58 it is a fine portrait lens with 75mm equivalent focal length. It is rather cheap on Ebay or your local photo store and still worth a recommendation.

The 100mm macro 2.8 too is very usable nowadays, because it's still really sharp, but you can get this new from Sony, so you don't see them too often in the wild.

(And then there is the very special 135mm STF 2.8 with supernatural bokeh and NO AF for portraits. I couldn't justify the high price for the limited use I would have for it. But a brillant and highly interesting lens for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minolta_STF_135mm_f/2.8_T4.5

Maybe you could check out the dyxum forum section for the vintage lenses for more infos. http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/results.asp?chbLensType=1
 

Futureman

Member
Any thoughts on Canon 85mm prime?

I'm leaning towards either...

Tamron 85mm f1.8, recently released @ $750, getting great reviews
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CIXJLI8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Sigma 85mm f1.4 @ $869 that I guess is being discontinued soon for an "Art" version
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NSC2WU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

or the non-L Canon 85mm f1.8 (my pro photographer buddy says this is his favorite lens).

My Sigma 50mm f1.4 is probably my favorite lens I've ever used and I could probably find a decent used version for around $600 or so as it's been on the market for awhile.
 

Koriandrr

Member
Any thoughts on Canon 85mm prime?

I'm leaning towards either...

Tamron 85mm f1.8, recently released @ $750, getting great reviews
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CIXJLI8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Sigma 85mm f1.4 @ $869 that I guess is being discontinued soon for an "Art" version
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NSC2WU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

or the non-L Canon 85mm f1.8 (my pro photographer buddy says this is his favorite lens).

My Sigma 50mm f1.4 is probably my favorite lens I've ever used and I could probably find a decent used version for around $600 or so as it's been on the market for awhile.


I'm pretty sure a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but - are you using it for portraits? If yes, just stick to the 50mm you have, having 50mm and 85mm for portraits is a bit of an overkill in my opinion. Totally pointless purchase. If you're in control of the environment the 85mm will do the exact same thing your 50mm one does. Unless you have a pretty good reason why you need that extra length I just find it like a luxury purchase rather than a need.
 

Futureman

Member
I LOVE my 50mm but I feel like I need to get too close to people sometimes. I get the feeling that it's uncomfortable for my subjects.

I did briefly own the Canon 100mm L and 135mm L in the past, maybe I should reconsider those (I was mainly doing video at the time when I bought those).

do photogs use the 100mm L macro for portraits? I guess that is mainly why I want a new lens. Someone is selling one for $650 on Fred Miranda right now.
 
I LOVE my 50mm but I feel like I need to get too close to people sometimes. I get the feeling that it's uncomfortable for my subjects.

I did briefly own the Canon 100mm L and 135mm L in the past, maybe I should reconsider those (I was mainly doing video at the time when I bought those).

do photogs use the 100mm L macro for portraits? I guess that is mainly why I want a new lens. Someone is selling one for $650 on Fred Miranda right now.
If you don't mind heavier lenses look into a 70-200. I've been doing a lot of my current portrait work using one and I like the look of it. If you want something lighter try getting an F4 version. Yes you can use a macro for portrait work just fine. What are you shooting on? Full Frame or APSC?
 

Futureman

Member
Full frame (5D2, may upgrade to 5D4 this Fall).

I prefer prime lenses though I guess I could consider a zoom. For my style of photography though, I don't think I'd have any use for something as long as 200mm. I've gotten by for about a decade now using a 17-40 zoom and my 50mm prime.
 

Otheradam

Member
I LOVE my 50mm but I feel like I need to get too close to people sometimes. I get the feeling that it's uncomfortable for my subjects.

I did briefly own the Canon 100mm L and 135mm L in the past, maybe I should reconsider those (I was mainly doing video at the time when I bought those).

do photogs use the 100mm L macro for portraits? I guess that is mainly why I want a new lens. Someone is selling one for $650 on Fred Miranda right now.

50 is too wide for close-ups. 85 is better (even for headshots it might be a bit too wide sometimes). I'd use a 70-200L for portraits if its affordable and you have the space. It flattens everything out very, very nicely.
 
50 is too wide for close-ups. 85 is better (even for headshots it might be a bit too wide sometimes). I'd use a 70-200L for portraits if its affordable and you have the space. It flattens everything out very, very nicely.
Which is why I suggested that. He could probably just get a Tamron 70-200 VC, I heard they're pretty good. I use the Sigma version and I'm happy enough with it.
 

RuGalz

Member
Sony's financial report: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/20160524_sony.pdf

"In addition, Sony decided to terminate the development and manufacturing of high-functionality camera modules for external sale, the mass production of which was being prepared at the Kumamoto Technology Center, as a result of a reconsideration of the strategy of this business from a long-term perspective. Approximately 30 billion yen in expense is expected to be incurred due to this termination."

This may affect just about everyone except like Canon. Maybe Samsung will step up again.
 

Ty4on

Member
50 is too wide for close-ups. 85 is better (even for headshots it might be a bit too wide sometimes). I'd use a 70-200L for portraits if its affordable and you have the space. It flattens everything out very, very nicely.
I've never used an 85 prime, but I also find that focal length borderline for a headshot. Great for wider portraits though.
I LOVE my 50mm but I feel like I need to get too close to people sometimes. I get the feeling that it's uncomfortable for my subjects.

I did briefly own the Canon 100mm L and 135mm L in the past, maybe I should reconsider those (I was mainly doing video at the time when I bought those).

do photogs use the 100mm L macro for portraits? I guess that is mainly why I want a new lens. Someone is selling one for $650 on Fred Miranda right now.

If you like primes I'd say go for it. I think for most prime shooters have a fast 85mm for portraits.
Don't be scared of the 70-200 f2.8 IS ii if you want some more reach and flexibility and can live with f2.8. Really sharp for a zoom and at 200mm it's sharper than the 200mm f2.8 prime. The 200mm f2 prime is sharper than both, but it's also 5k :p
 
Sony's financial report: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/20160524_sony.pdf

"In addition, Sony decided to terminate the development and manufacturing of high-functionality camera modules for external sale, the mass production of which was being prepared at the Kumamoto Technology Center, as a result of a reconsideration of the strategy of this business from a long-term perspective. Approximately 30 billion yen in expense is expected to be incurred due to this termination."

This may affect just about everyone except like Canon. Maybe Samsung will step up again.

And I just swore my allegiance too...

:(

Both the A68 and A6300 seemed like really nice contenders.

Sick of Sony doing so poorly in the electronics market, first they quit making premium Xperia phones and now this. As a fanboy, I'm disheartened.
 

Aurongel

Member
Wait, does that Sony report include sales to Nikon? Sony sensors in Nikon bodies has historically been one of the biggest technological differentiators between Nikon and Canon.
 
And I just swore my allegiance too...

:(

Both the A68 and A6300 seemed like really nice contenders.

Sick of Sony doing so poorly in the electronics market, first they quit making premium Xperia phones and now this. As a fanboy, I'm disheartened.

Wait, does that Sony report include sales to Nikon? Sony sensors in Nikon bodies has historically been one of the biggest technological differentiators between Nikon and Canon.
I think that "external" means sales to companies like Nikon, etc. I don't think the termination will really affect Sony stuff. I might be wrong though.
 

snaffles

Member
And I just swore my allegiance too...

:(

Both the A68 and A6300 seemed like really nice contenders.

Sick of Sony doing so poorly in the electronics market, first they quit making premium Xperia phones and now this. As a fanboy, I'm disheartened.

I could be wrong but I think that is more referring to the cameras they put in phones, not their sensor division or mirrorless cameras.
 
Ah, carry on guys. That puts my mind at peace.

Sorry, it's 90 degrees in my apartment right now and the central air isn't working. I think I'm going delusional.
 
Huh?

I'm pretty sure Sony doesn't make sensors for Nikon. IIRC, I believe it's Fujitsu who makes them not Sony.

I think that's just referring to mobile since Sony does produce the sensor for the iPhone's rear camera.
 
Huh?

I'm pretty sure Sony doesn't make sensors for Nikon. IIRC, I believe it's Fujitsu who makes them not Sony.

I think that's just referring to mobile since Sony does produce the sensor for the iPhone's rear camera.
If I'm not mistaken Toshiba supplied the sensors prior to Sony. If not all of them I'm pretty sure Toshiba at least provided the sensor for the D7000.
 
Huh?

I'm pretty sure Sony doesn't make sensors for Nikon. IIRC, I believe it's Fujitsu who makes them not Sony.

I think that's just referring to mobile since Sony does produce the sensor for the iPhone's rear camera.

Nikon took sensors from Toshiba and Sony. The D7000 sensor for example was a Sony, I'm absolutely sure about that.

Edit: Radec's list was faster, lol.
 
D'oh!

I was confusing the CMOS sensor and EXPEED(image processor) together lol.

Maybe I should take a nap instead of getting on GAF after a long day at work...
 

RuGalz

Member
On the high end camera side, Sony manufactures sensor for Nikon, Pentax, Fuji, Phase one, etc. Panasonic makes their own sensor. Olympus usually source it from Panasonic thus far. Canon makes their own. Sigma makes their own Foveon sensor. It'll be interesting to see Sony's strategy going forward now they own something like 80% of the sensor market. (i.e. good luck if you want to compete with them in FF MILC market unless you make your own sensor like Canon)
 
On the high end camera side, Sony manufactures sensor for Nikon, Pentax, Fuji, Phase one, etc. Panasonic makes their own sensor. Olympus usually source it from Panasonic thus far. Canon makes their own. Sigma makes their own Foveon sensor. It'll be interesting to see Sony's strategy going forward now they own something like 80% of the sensor market. (i.e. good luck if you want to compete with them in FF MILC market unless you make your own sensor like Canon)

So shouldn't things like AF speed be identical on those brands?
 

RuGalz

Member
So shouldn't things like AF speed be identical on those brands?

Lens construction, AF algorithm, the processor in the camera, etc all affect the AF speed. Sensor, for the most part, only affects AF for MILC. The AF module is separate from the sensor in DSLRs.

Also, while Sony manufactures the CMOS sensor, the OEMs provide their own substrate design/color filter/etc that goes with the sensor. So even if the sensors are equal, they can have different characteristics.
 
Lens construction, AF algorithm, the processor in the camera, etc all affect the AF speed. Sensor, for the most part, only affects AF for MILC. The AF module is separate from the sensor in DSLRs.

Also, while Sony manufactures the CMOS sensor, the OEMs provide their own substrate design/color filter/etc that goes with the sensor. So even if the sensors are equal, they can have different characteristics.

I'm just trying to understand why an affordable Olympus is a lot faster in terms of AF than a Fuji.
 

RuGalz

Member
I'm just trying to understand why an affordable Olympus is a lot faster in terms of AF than a Fuji.

There are probably several reasons that I can think of. In terms of pricing, Fuji probably just need to recoup R&D cost and overall lower volume manufacturing means higher cost for their sensor. Also I think Fuji's stuff is all manufactured in Japan? On top of that, APS-C sensors are larger than m43.

In terms of focusing speed difference, it's probably mostly down to lens design (mechanical/electronic parts) and camera's AF algorithm if you are just comparing contrast based AF on both systems. Also, having smaller sensor on Oly camera means larger DOF at the same aperture, which means a bit easier to keep things in focus, so that can play a role as well when everything else is equal.
 

Koriandrr

Member
If you don't mind heavier lenses look into a 70-200. I've been doing a lot of my current portrait work using one and I like the look of it. If you want something lighter try getting an F4 version. Yes you can use a macro for portrait work just fine. What are you shooting on? Full Frame or APSC?

Full frame (5D2, may upgrade to 5D4 this Fall).

I prefer prime lenses though I guess I could consider a zoom. For my style of photography though, I don't think I'd have any use for something as long as 200mm. I've gotten by for about a decade now using a 17-40 zoom and my 50mm prime.

I would never choose a zoom lens instead of a prime. If you're in control of the environment and don't need zoom for something specifically that has no other option, then go for prime. MUCH better quality and you never know when you might need that low f stop. Although I generally wouldn't recommend using anything under 1.8 for portraits, the 1.4 specifically I've never used for portraits because your focus point is basically an eyelash.

I shoot live music and although a zoom lens would be far more convenient for it, I've chosen to use a 35mm prime with f1.4 because I like the quality of it and ability to go low f in case I need it. Primes for life.
 
I would never choose a zoom lens instead of a prime. If you're in control of the environment and don't need zoom for something specifically that has no other option, then go for prime. MUCH better quality and you never know when you might need that low f stop. Although I generally wouldn't recommend using anything under 1.8 for portraits, the 1.4 specifically I've never used for portraits because your focus point is basically an eyelash.

I shoot live music and although a zoom lens would be far more convenient for it, I've chosen to use a 35mm prime with f1.4 because I like the quality of it and ability to go low f in case I need it. Primes for life.
It mainly depends on preference and what you're shooting, environment, intended look and how close you want to be with a person. If I had an 85 prime I'd definitely use it more just cause there are times when you really do need 1.8. I've been fine with the 70-200 though and some of my other zooms. That and for overall weight saving prime is best. I like my 50mm, but I rarely use it just cause I prefer not having to move around and cropping way more than I need to in post. I guess I use zooms cause I do a good amount of events and I have no control of my environment cause I'm usually shooting in buys parks or places with a ton of tourists.
 

Ty4on

Member
I'm just trying to understand why an affordable Olympus is a lot faster in terms of AF than a Fuji.

Algorithms and lens focus.

I'm pretty sure the primary method of focusing for Fuji is contrast detection and I think phase detection on Olympus is only for old four thirds lenses. With contrast detection you want a lens AF motor that responds quickly so you can do micro adjustments quickly and a clever algorithm for figuring out focus and how to get there. That's why DSLRs without dual pixel are so painfully slow in live view. SLR lenses have fast focus motors, but most are slow to respond.

I'm guessing that the wide aperture lenses of Fuji are slow to focus as well because of the big elements.

Hopefully the improved phase detection AF is seen in Fuji as well because that could really help.
 

RuGalz

Member
Older Fuji lenses also have under-powered motor so to get the full speed improvements you actually need newer lenses + software update. I don't think they have gone back to update the older lenses with new motor.
 
I lost touch with my photography a few years ago and sold all of my kit last year. I've got the urge again now I have a few family events coming up so bought myself a OM-D E-M10 Mark II. Anyone own one of these? How do you get on with it? Mine arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.

I was looking at the A6000 / A5100 / XT10 and the OM-D. All seemed to review really well but the control layout and built in IS drew me to the Olympus. The cashback currently running was a sweetener as well :)

I'm still very satisfied with my E-M5 ii, except for the menu system, which can be very confusing.If you don't mind the weight, the 12-40 2.8 is an awesome lens, I use it 95% of the time. It's very very sharp and has a very short close focusing distance.
 

FStop7

Banned
Novoflex released a Canon EF adapter for the Leica SL that supports auto focus and aperture control. So all of those awesome Canon telephoto lenses will now work with the SL. Along with native mount SL lenses, M mount, R mount, and S mount. It's an expensive as fuck camera but the idea of having a single "hub" body to use with a huge array of glass is very appealing. I'd much rather pay a lot of money for one camera body that works with everything than pay a little for 5 different bodies to be able to access the same number of lenses.

I rented an SL + 24-90 to see how I like using it in the real world vs. testing it in the store. It's supposed to arrive this afternoon.
 
Novoflex released a Canon EF adapter for the Leica SL that supports auto focus and aperture control. So all of those awesome Canon telephoto lenses will now work with the SL. Along with native mount SL lenses, M mount, R mount, and S mount. It's an expensive as fuck camera but the idea of having a single "hub" body to use with a huge array of glass is very appealing. I'd much rather pay a lot of money for one camera body that works with everything than pay a little for 5 different bodies to be able to access the same number of lenses.

I rented an SL + 24-90 to see how I like using it in the real world vs. testing it in the store. It's supposed to arrive this afternoon.

That "hub body" is very much why I have a Sony body.
 
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