Of course. Zelda needs dungeons lol.
If those 4 dungeons are amazing and memorable I think it will be good enough.
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New Zelda: Breath of the Wild interview w/ Aonuma (transl. summary from French)
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TheMoon
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All of you
Because it clearly says right there that there are dungeons.
I guess if that's how you read it then that's your thing. We'll see in 5 weeks how it panned out.
A new game instantly becomes a 0/10 game if it doesn't behave exactly like old games?
Dwight Schrute
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From reading the original interview it says they're refer to dungeons as shrines now, based on the same structure, and some of them are bigger with bosses. Does not sound like there is a shrines/dungeon separation but rather shrines/bigger shrines with bosses.
Cuningas de Häme
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Holy shit people jump to conclusions, read the French (wo)man's translation!
There are tons of MGS fans who were very disappointed with MGSV because it lacked certain specific things the franchise has been known for. I loved MGSV but I can relate to their disappointment even if it didn't affect me. For Zelda are there certain very specific things I really enjoy from it that no other game or series made today offers. I have been playing Zelda since 1987. I have seen the series change and evolve, and each time it was new and exciting because it offered new ideas while retaining the things which were most important to me. If the things which are important to me are no longer there, then the franchise is dead to me.
I don't think that's the case though. I think Nintendo understands what Zelda is, and what their most faithful fans want out of it.
So there are big, possibly story related shrines with a boss fight but they still have the typical shrine aesthetic instead of being unique?
Ahahahahah fuck this shit. You didn't have to break ALL the conventions Aonuma. Some of them were ok to keep you know, there are a few reasons why the series was always so beloved, and one of them is that the mechanics were incredible.
Still my most hyped game since Metroid Prime, but i really don't like the sound of this. Hope the game proves me wrong.
Ahahahahah fuck this shit. You didn't have to break ALL the conventions Aonuma. Some of them were ok to keep you know, there are a few reasons why the series was always so beloved, and one of them is that the mechanics were incredible.
Still my most hyped game since Metroid Prime, but i really don't like the sound of this. Hope the game proves me wrong.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
I never said I wouldn't like it. I just said what drew me to the series in the first place.
I'm curious about these non-themed shrines/dungeons/whatever. But excited, like you are? No, I'm not excited at all at this point.
TriForce Hero
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So the Dungeons died in favor of the Open world sins...
EatChildren
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SolVanderlyn
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Maybe he means the themes won't be as obvious, like Stone Tower Temple in Majora's Mask. That had no "theme" but was still very Zelda-like and awesome.
Other Zelda dungeons with no theme:
Tower of Hera
Eastern Palace
Gargoyle's Domain/Thieves Den
Actually a lot of LttP dungeons fell outside the theme category. Same with Oracle of Ages and Seasons.
Other Zelda dungeons with no theme:
Tower of Hera
Eastern Palace
Gargoyle's Domain/Thieves Den
Actually a lot of LttP dungeons fell outside the theme category. Same with Oracle of Ages and Seasons.
Same. I know where this thread is clearly headed though, but I shall not tag along for the ride.
Holy Order Sol
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they really didn't tho
MadraptorMan
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I really hope there are "legendary" weapons and gear that don't break in the end game..
The Master Sword won't break.
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The most recent trailer showed at least one environment that looked like a dungeon to me that did not have the Shrines' dark, reflective look (EDIT: I'm guessing the environments shown at 1:50, 1:52, and 3:01 are all dungeons, though 1:52 and 3:01 might be the same place. The trailer, however, also showed a number of diverse interior and exterior environments, so I'm really skeptical that the "dungeons" would completely abandon that diversity.). I wouldn't give up hope. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shrines and "dungeons" end up visually connected to at least some degree. However, in the context of the game and its visual design, I'm curious how it will all fit together.
MadraptorMan
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I figured as much...I wonder if that is the best weapon you can get though? And also I wonder about shields.
Can we put this in the OP? Aonuma said nothing about themed dungeons.
Yeah but will it have the Hero's Bow and other legendary equipments that never break?
Not that i need this (i like how they managed the equipment durability), but it would be nice to have some long subquests towards the end of the game where you get the best, more powerful, unbreakable equipment.
He said "some shrines are bigger and act like dungeons, they even have a boss fight", this should tell you a lot.
Well, there's always the possibility that they are still different from the basic shrines and are more like the ancient cistern from SS for example.
Ok then, it's better if I misunderstood the part about their aesthetics. Like i said if they're more like in SS i'm perfectly ok with that, but he should've phrased it better.
TheMoon
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As many replies show, it clearly doesn't. Selective reading + worst case paranoia.
And no more green hat guys! They're killing our gamez!
In the Story trailer we can see 2 large structures which look like dungeons acess to me, at 2mn46s and 2mn57s
The moving horse thing could be a dungeon too.
Considering that the different races of characters have had weapons highlighted it's safe to assume that we will get unbreakable versions of each that they carry.
The Zora spear, Goron Claymore, and Bird Bow.
Octavianus
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Neogaf.
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And no more green hat guys! They're killing our gamez!
In the Story trailer we can see 2 large structures which look like dungeons acess to me, at 2mn46s and 2mn57s
I'm really interested in seeing if the area at 2:57 ends up being a dungeon or, if it's not, what's there instead.
You realize that the person you are replying who is in fact saying that there are no unique looking dungeons right? The irony. You think that you have such a perfectly understandable OP and hit out at everyone for "not being able to read" when in fact all you have is a (questionable?) English translation SUMMARY of a French interview which was conducted in Japanese. Making various statements open to interpretation and speculation. Instead of being so high and mighty why don't you reflect on your own jumping to conclusions about how other people interpret something?
GhostTrick
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Native french speaker here and the quote is indeed puzzling regarding classic dungeons.
Aonuma claims they dont call them dungeons but shrines, implying classic dungeons are no more and says some shrines are indeed bigger, with a boss inside but there's no more themed dungeons.
I fear that it may mean generic bosses too.
Aonuma claims they dont call them dungeons but shrines, implying classic dungeons are no more and says some shrines are indeed bigger, with a boss inside but there's no more themed dungeons.
I fear that it may mean generic bosses too.
New conventions: a gundeon!
This lines up with what I was expecting, so no surprises here.
The big dungeons will be
and all look pretty much the same. There won't be any Forest/water/desert dungeons, but I think the overworld will progress into these kinds of areas more than in previous games to make up for that. The place with the firebreathing Lizalfos in the trailer is a good example, the overworld will extend into Death Mountain. In short, no more themed dungeons, but a more varied and themed overworld.
Speculation, obviously.
The big dungeons will be
inside the Divine Guardians
Speculation, obviously.
iirc, bosses & semi-bosses will be uniques, with names.
-Pyromaniac-
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I hope Aunoma is fucking around.
TriForce Hero
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I should've put "/s" in the end.
However I can se All dungeons being Sheikah Tecnology in theme and ambience.
With no evident thematic.
This is a good observation and also something I've been musing. I think that it's possible that in creating the open world, they might be trying to translate the concept of traditional dungeons into parts of the world itself rather than just interiors. We have in fact already seen this with the desert dungeon in Skyward Sword.
But it's all in the execution. They really have to get the feel right. If it ends up feeling like the themed experience of a new area is no longer there, then they lose the magic.
GhostTrick
Banned
Basically this.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
No dungeons in any form???
No collectible items or weapons???
No bosses whatsoever??
Fuck.
I think I'm out and I was very much looking forward to it:[
No collectible items or weapons???
No bosses whatsoever??
Fuck.
I think I'm out and I was very much looking forward to it:[
TheMoon
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Oh I was well aware.
Even from up here I can see people not reading very clear things like there being only tiny shrines and nothing more elaborate. That's just sill.
Now you're just pulling my leg here
Come on!
That's it and I don't see the problem yet.
Also native French and clearly the translation is misleading.
There's no problem with "bigger" dungeons.
The Monolithsoft part was what I was the most interested in.
I'm happy to have at least a glimpse at what they did and it's really promising.
Seeing how they show Zelda on their website beside Xenoblade 2 is unexpected.
I had hype for Zelda, but now it's even bigger.
There's no problem with "bigger" dungeons.
The Monolithsoft part was what I was the most interested in.
I'm happy to have at least a glimpse at what they did and it's really promising.
Seeing how they show Zelda on their website beside Xenoblade 2 is unexpected.
I had hype for Zelda, but now it's even bigger.
GhostTrick
Banned
Oh I was well aware.
Even from up here I can see people not reading very clear things like there being only tiny shrines and nothing more elaborate. That's just sill.
Now you're just pulling my leg here
Come on!
Remember Skyward Sword's 3rd dungeon's boss ? The scorpio thing that reappears latter as a regular enemy.
I fear that we may get generic big enemies, like the rock giant we saw in the E3 Demo.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
smh
The bold part tells me that there'll be dungeons. However, these won't be distinguishable through their themes but through the influences of the story which is way more interesting in my book.
Then there're the shrines which are like puzzle caves. Some of these will be bigger than others and feature boss fights at the end.
He clearly seperates shrines (+bigger shrines) from dungeons!