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[Mr Hyde]

Waiting for 8bit do to release their third party controller. Or better yet, patch Ultimate so it's compatible with NS2 and I don't have to shell out for a new controller.

 

[LordCBH]

Waiting for 8bit do to release their third party controller. Or better yet, patch Ultimate so it's compatible with NS2 and I don't have to shell out for a new controller.

Nintendo could release the best controller they’ve ever made and I’d still buy an 8BitDo controller for it after having used my Ultimate 2 for the past couple of weeks. Incredible feeling controller.

 

[Gamer79]

The news keep getting worse. Only the Nintendo C cucks will defend this

 

[alphachino]

Seriously how much do these hall effect parts cost them ordered in volume? How can you cheap out this hard?

The opportunity cost in putting in hall effect/TMR is far too great.

let's say they sell 100 million Switch 2s in its lifetime. Putting in regular drift-prone sticks, if we could assume about a conservative 50% of people will experience drift at some point and those users are forced to purchase a new pair of joycons @ $90, that's an extra $4,500,000,000 ($4.5 Billion) in sales.

If they put in non drift-prone sticks, and 50% of customers weren't forced to purchase a new pair, the cost of that decision is $4.5 Billion.

Yeah, fuck these greedy bastards.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Nintendo could release the best controller they’ve ever made and I’d still buy an 8BitDo controller for it after having used my Ultimate 2 for the past couple of weeks. Incredible feeling controller.

Ultimate is the best blows Nintendos pro controller out of the water (and that one is pretty damn good too).

 

[Sorcerer]

None of the first party's will ever use hall effect. Don't like it? Buy a third-party controller with hall effect and they still make their percentage/license fee.

 

[Sojiro]

I don't care as long as fixes the drift issue.

Yeah it remains to be seen on whether this solution will address the issue, if it doesn't, then yeah Nintendo definitely deserves shit for this. Considering how much I am sure Nintendo ate in repairs, and the shit they caught for how frequently the Joycons shit out, I would be surprised if the Switch 2 Joycons are anywhere as bad. Guess we will see if drift issues start to pop up a few months after release.

 

[Dacvak]

Nintendo is gonna eat so much shit if these joysticks start drifting lol.

 

[LordCBH]

Ultimate is the best blows Nintendos pro controller out of the water (and that one is pretty damn good too).

Only reason I haven’t bought one for my switch is the switch 2 releasing soon. I nabbed my Ultimate 2 for my pc and haven’t looked back. Incredible feeling sticks, sublime triggers. I just need to figure out how to do the back buttons but I’m in no rush.

 

[tkscz]

Doesn't matter if Hall or not if the drift is no longer an issue.

Hall Effect sticks didn't increase accuracy or anything in terms of how an analog stick worked, just removed rubbing parts so that things like drift didn't really happen.

So I never cared if it used Hall or not, just if the drift issue is fixed, if it isn't, well they'll be wasting a lot of money repairing controllers again, maybe use hall in the repairs.

 

[alphachino]

Not great news.

Have they even released the cost of the Joycons yet? Like the new pro controller, I'm expecting them to be more expensive than the previous Joycons.

USD$90

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

How much again for this piece of trash controller? U$90

Hopefull ill be able to use my PS5 controller on this like i use on switch.

How do you use a ps5 controller on switch?

 

[Mr Moose]

Not great news.

Have they even released the cost of the Joycons yet? Like the new pro controller, I'm expecting them to be more expensive than the previous Joycons.

$89.99/£74.99.

How do you use a ps5 controller on switch?

8BitDo USB Wireless Adapter | 8BitDo

8BitDo Wireless USB Adapter Connect nearly all wireless

www.8bitdo.com

 

[Panajev2001a]

Interesting how they explain away the increase in price of the new Joy-Cons. No IR camera anymore, still old analog stick tech, more powerful rumble… and a nice boost in price.

I get some people do not mind paying but the fans who pitch them as consumer focused when people are nickle-and-dimed constantly does. It seem like it…

 

[Panajev2001a]

Doesn't matter if Hall or not if the drift is no longer an issue.

Hall Effect sticks didn't increase accuracy or anything in terms of how an analog stick worked, just removed rubbing parts so that things like drift didn't really happen.

So I never cared if it used Hall or not, just if the drift issue is fixed, if it isn't, well they'll be wasting a lot of money repairing controllers again, maybe use hall in the repairs.

The reason is likely simple repairs are costing them less than the amount of new controllers they sell (outside the EU and even inside, some people have little patience/do not want to stay without controllers).

 

[IDKFA]

USD$90

$89.99/£74.99.

8BitDo USB Wireless Adapter | 8BitDo

8BitDo Wireless USB Adapter Connect nearly all wireless

www.8bitdo.com

Wow. That's another reason for me not to bother with this overpriced system.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

$89.99/£74.99.

8BitDo USB Wireless Adapter | 8BitDo

8BitDo Wireless USB Adapter Connect nearly all wireless

www.8bitdo.com

Thanks, wondering if I should buy the Pro controller or this adapter thing. I wonder how the haptics translate over if I use a dual sense?

The battery life on the switch pro controller is nice

Does that adapter work with the pulse headphones too?

 

[Icymanipulator]

Nintendo diehards will find a way to defend this too.

 

[Radical_3d]

 

[MrRibeye]

Why is there never a thread about this new console that makes me go like "Huh, that's awesome!" it's always some disappointing news

 

[Lethal01]

I wonder what flavor of copium we'll be getting today.

I don't care about the specific technology,
Need to see if these drift or it been fixed.

 

[bender]

Just makes it easier to drift in Mario Kart

XP farming in Xenowhatever has never been easier!

 

[kiphalfton]

I wonder what flavor of copium we'll be getting today.

See post #4 up above

 

[GoldenEye98]

Sure but on the brightside they've increased the price of Joycons.

 

[SweetTooth]

I kept telling those overreacting kids that Nintendo IS CHEAP P pulicat LordOcidax and that Bowser ... Next reality check will be with next games get compared.

 

[Lokaum D+]

How do you use a ps5 controller on switch?

Not only PS5, any controller.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Not only PS5, any controller.

How are the haptics with a dual sense?

 

[LordOcidax]

I kept telling those overreacting kids that Nintendo IS CHEAP P pulicat LordOcidax and that Bowser ... Next reality check will be with next games get compared.

Are you already telling me that the Switch 2 version of NEXTGEN games are not going to look the same as the PS5 version But a few months some of you were laughing when we said that Switch 2 was going to be a PS4/PS4pro in terms of power… Also NO nextgen games for Switch 2… What happened? Are you moving the goalpost too like James Sawyer Ford

 

[Dacvak]

This whole conversation boils down to one thing:

Did Nintendo solve stick drift?

If yes, we have no problems. If no, holy shit Nintendo… I’m gonna lose my mind.

 

[kiphalfton]

Looks like another Nintendo generation of Docked only with an 8bitdo ultimate for me.

What's the difference between 8bitdo ultimate, 2.4G edition, and ultimate 2, ultimate 2C, etc.

Have like half a dozen or more different models, and not super clear what the difference is or if there's a comparison chart

 

[SweetTooth]

Are you already telling me that the Switch 2 version of NEXTGEN games are not going to look the same as the PS5 version But a few months some of you were laughing when we said that Switch 2 was going to be a PS4/PS4pro in terms of power… Also NO nextgen games for Switch 2… What happened? Are you moving the goalpost too like James Sawyer Ford

What ... You seem hallucinating. Calm down and enjoy you stick drift prone CHEAP TOY

Now Switch is PS5 power? LMAO..enjoy the 30fps Cyberpunk

 

[LordOcidax]

What ... You seem hallucinating. Calm down and enjoy you stick drift prone CHEAP TOY

Now Switch is PS5 power? LMAO..enjoy the 30fps Cyberpunk

I am amazed that you are now are accepting that the Switch 2 is capable of run PS5/Series X games…

 

[Lokaum D+]

How are the haptics with a dual sense?

IT dosnt work, controller ll act like a switch pro and thats It.

 

[SweetTooth]

I am amazed that you are now are accepting that the Switch 2 is capable of run PS5/Series X games…

Is it though? Or is it your Kirby pillow talking to you?

 

[Lokaum D+]

I am amazed that you are now are accepting that the Switch 2 is capable of run PS5/Series X games…

But Cyberpunk runs on a base ps4, its not a PS5 title.

 

[LordOcidax]

Is it though? Or is it your Kirby pillow talking to you?

 

[LordOcidax]

But Cyberpunk runs on a base ps4, its not a PS5 title.

How Phantom Liberty runs on your PS4? 30fps?

 

[fallingdove]

look, if they want to continue to have to repair every single joycon for eternity instead of just adding something to prevent that, it's their loss.

Nintendo still has to repair every single joycon stick even if they are out of warranty in the EU, that can't be financially insignificant

What a cop out. It’s not just Nintendo’s loss, owners have to send their shit in every time stick drift kicks in?

I really wish fans would acknowledge Nintendo’s anti-consumerism with the Switch 2 instead of slurping up the bad news they keep sending their way. Things don’t change for the better if you are constantly settling for poor products.

 

[Gamezone]

No oled, no hall effect sticks. They aren't trying to make it cheaper, they just want you to buy new controllers from time to time.

 

[SweetTooth]

Hahhaaahaa.. are you putting words into my mouth? I will leave you to your delusions

 

[pachura]

After a lot of consideration, we've decided not to use Hall effect joycons. Not all people are particularly interested in the tech

 

[LordOcidax]

Hahhaaahaa.. are you putting words into my mouth? I will leave you to your delusions

Don’t worry, i am not expecting the Switch 2 version of games are going to Looks/perform like the PS5/Series X counter parts.

 

[drotahorror]

Disappointing, but I have controllers with no hall effect that has worked well for over 10 years, so we just gotta hope they figured out a better way to build them.

Besides a couple Xbox 360 controllers, I've never had drift in any controllers for close to 40 years.

But not surprised that Nintendo went the cheap route. Hall sensors can't be that expensive.

 

[hinch7]

Aka please keep buying more controllers. What a joke.

 

[Sooner]

Nintendo still has to repair every single joycon stick even if they are out of warranty in the EU, that can't be financially insignificant

Not every single one. Only those who realize they can have them fixed and actually go about getting them fixed.

It's probably a lot fewer than you think and is offset by the number of people just buying a new fully priced set of Joycons.

 

[RayBoy]

 

[GoldenEye98]

This whole conversation boils down to one thing:

Did Nintendo solve stick drift?

If yes, we have no problems. If no, holy shit Nintendo… I’m gonna lose my mind.

And lucky for us Nintendo will absolutely communicate information about this lol...

Nope you are flying blind.

 

[hinch7]

What's the difference between 8bitdo ultimate, 2.4G edition, and ultimate 2, ultimate 2C, etc.

Have like half a dozen or more different models, and not super clear what the difference is or if there's a comparison chart

1st gen Ultimate doesn't have hall effect. The newer version 2.4G does and comes with dock with (350hz polling iirc). 2C is the new version with 1K polling rate two more shoulder buttons, no dock. Ultimate 2 is the latest release with TMR sticks (basically an improved hall effect sensor), with same 2C specs plus hair trigger toggle + dock.

 

[kevboard]

What a cop out. It’s not just Nintendo’s loss, owners have to send their shit in every time stick drift kicks in?

I really wish fans would acknowledge Nintendo’s anti-consumerism with the Switch 2 instead of slurping up the bad news they keep sending their way. Things don’t change for the better if you are constantly settling for poor products.

no it is Nintendo's loss because I will absolutely not buy any additional official joycons and will instantly switch to third party ones, which are already announced.
and everyone shoukd do the same

 

[Gambit2483]

This whole conversation boils down to one thing:

Did Nintendo solve stick drift?

If yes, we have no problems. If no, holy shit Nintendo… I’m gonna lose my mind.

Every Nintendo thread on GAF seeminly has to devolve/derail into a Nintendo hate-complaint thread