Open any Famitsu statistics for the last 2-3 years, Nintendo has practically squeezed out all competitors from the Japanese market, plus nowhere in the world are so many Switches sold as in Japan. And I can say with 200% certainty that they will not want to lose their positions in Japan and share the market with someone.
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Nintendo Switch 2 Motherboard leaked, confirms TSMC N6/SEC8N
Luipadre
Member
Lots of copium in that tweet lol
Dont expect a powerful system from nintendo, not even a decent one and you wont be disappointed
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asdasdasdbb
Member
I kind of thought it is a semi-custom cut down version of Tegra Orin, which is used in some Self Driving chip products. Take out all of the automotive specific stuff and anything else Nintendo doesn't want. But presumably it's not exclusive so you could see NV use it in a future Shield TV for instance.
TrebleShot
Member
hahahahahah no, no, I wont be buying one, but thank you, very interesting, but no thank you.
Moses85
Member
Cost reductionNvidia has so much power over Nintendo they didn't even put Nintendo name of the chip
jm89
Member
Nintendo: what can I get for a dollar fifty?Nvidia has so much power over Nintendo they didn't even put Nintendo name of the chip
Nvidia: uhm let me check *walks over to recycle bin*
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
So this thing is a portable PS4 and possibly a docked PS4 pro, with newer graphical architecture and better CPU, all for around $400, and people are complaining?
Y'all are crazy.
Y'all are crazy.
Robb
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Moses85
Member
Mark my words, it wont be this powerful
Cyberpunkd
Member
Switch has proven that there is a market for portable games among core gamers.
Nintendo is making their console exceptionally powerful for this very reason, so the Switch 2 is the only console you need. They are attacking the Steam Deck and PS5 multiplatform market.
The specs are good for that strategy. The console only needs to render 540p internally with that small screen, DLSS does the magic.
PeteBull
Member
We knew from the leaks switch2 is roughly base ps4 performance in handheld mode, ps4pr0 in docked mode, so slightly below series s, thats solid af for handheld experience from nintendo, who stopped participating in graphics race long time ago, their last highend graphics console was fricken gamecube from 2001, so 24years ago...
jm89
Member
squidilix
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Rocco Schiavone
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Davevil
Late October Surprise
i don't get... in what way, in 2025, ps4 pro level is a decent level of power? with a life cycle of 5-6 years, among other things
Woopah
Member
SweetTooth is correct that this SoC was made specifically for Nintendo.I asked because I believe there is no current device that uses these chips and Nintendo is the only vendor for them (currently)
But knowing how horrible Nvidia as partners this should be the least of Ninty fans worries
They used the automotive T234 as a base, and then made some changes like taking out things that aren't helpful for gaming and adding things that are helpful for gaming.
Nintendo sold way more Switches in the US than Japan.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Nintendo systems are always weaker than the decent 'leaked' specs, but the system will still give us great Mario and Zelda. No way in hell are they trying to attack anything. They did well with an affordable price point and a weak system. How could they justify risking not repeating that by making an expensive system? The only thing they are attacking is there targeted price point.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Home Screen / Docked experience should be 4K HDR (after having had XSX and PS5 I prefer the always HDR approach).
If it's not too much trouble, could you send me a link or a private message with the information, because this is all I could find - this.
They had a very strong start at 9,000,000, and then sales dropped every year.
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LordOcidax
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Console warriors are already doing their job… PS4 to PS4 Pro level of graphics is exactly what people were expecting, by reading some of the comments here is obvious that some people are going to have a hard time with the Switch 2.
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LordOcidax
Member
Switch already surpassed the PS2 in US, is the best selling home console ever there.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...asses-playstation-2s-lifetime-sales-in-the-us
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PeteBull
Member
It is if we take into consideration switch2 just like og switch, is handheld hardware at its core, including powerdraw:
quick comparision powerdraw of og switch:
undocked with battery pack: 9W
Docked:11W
Docked and uncharged(so its charing itself while playing): 16W w/o joycons, 18W with joycons
Playing With Power: A Look At Nintendo Switch Power Consumption
Now quick comparision to stationary consoles:
seriesX
peak 211 on gears5 (most games around 160W avg)
Xbox Series X thermal and power analysis: how efficient is next-gen?
UPDATE: For the authoritative take on Microsoft's new flagship console, Digital Foundry's full Xbox Series X review is …
www.eurogamer.net
seriesS
peak 83 on gears5 (most games around 60-70W avg)
Xbox Series S review: next-gen gaming on a budget - and in style
Digital Foundry presents the definitive verdict on an entirely new type of games console - Microsoft's junior Series machine, which aims to bring you the same g
www.eurogamer.net
launch ps5:
peak 220W
ps5slim:
peak235W
ps5pr0:
peak240W
It simply isnt feassible to demand similar lvl of graphical power from 240W peak powerdraw ps5pr0 vs around 20-25W switch2(if that), so 10x less powerdraw, roughly.
Even series S has over 80W peak powerdraw so switch2 gonna draw at least 3 maybe even 4x less in docked mode...
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Robb
Gold Member
This is from the Q4 2023/2024 earnings release:
There might be more recent numbers available though. I’m not sure.HARDWARE
SOFTWARE
Title Lifetime Total (millions) Quarterly (millions) Released Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 61.97 1.39 April 2017 Animal crossing: New Horizons 45.36 0.57 March 2020 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 34.22 0.55 December 2018 Zelda: Breath of the Wild 31.85 0.24 March 2017 Super Mario Odyssey 27.96 0.31 October 2017 Pokemon Sword & Shield 26.27 0.10 November 2019 Pokemon Scarlet & Violet 24.92 0.56 November 2022 Super Mario Party 20.66 0.32 October 2018 Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 20.61 0.33 May 2023 New Super Mario Bros. Deluxe 17.45 0.25 January 2019
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I don't quite understand what this has to do with my question.
Thank you very much, this is what I asked!
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REDRZA MWS
Member
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m saying 3.5.
Woopah
Member
The link LordOcidax shared shows that Switch had sold 46.6 million in the US by the end of November 2024.
At that time Switch had sold 34.5 million in Japan.
So battery life concerns will be made with a global audience in mind, not just Japan.
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Astray
Member
Do you not see this as a problem for Nintendo, right as Steam is preparing to expand SteamOS' reach across handheld devices of varying performance and price levels? And as Sony and Microsoft prepare to encroach on their field too?
LordOcidax
Member
This thing capable to run almost every third party game available with those specifications even Square enix almost confirmed the ports of both Final Fantasy Remakes for the Switch 2 and some people still don’t believe it’s going to achieve PS4 graphics on the go . Like i predicted in a old thread… The next move is.. But but looks worse than the PS5 Pro port
. Like i predicted in a old thread… The next move is.. But but looks worse than the PS5 Pro port
Yes, for me it also is of great importance. Since I consider Switch primarily as a portable console, 3-6 hours of operation would be very good. If the operating time drops to 1 - 1.5 hours it will be sad, of course I have a powerbank, which I always carry with me, but in my opinion these are no longer comfortable conditions of use.
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
In the same way that most developers have yet to utilize the full power of a PS4 pro in any way that moves gaming forward besides graphics.
I don't care about ray tracing or 4K 120 FPS. If you do, that's great, there are plenty of products for you on the market.
I care about interesting ideas, about novel mechanics, thought provoking puzzles. I care about creative level design and evocative art styles. I care about unique experiences that are unlike anything I've played before. Realism is nice to have but it's not a substitute for all of those other things.
LordOcidax
Member
For handheld is pretty powerful and is going to be capable to run every third party game, at least until the next gen comes out, around 2028.
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
In what way do you think it'll be less powerful than a portable PS4?
Fabieter
Member
This will run most ps5 games.
LordOcidax
Member
Mark my words, the Switch 2 is going to receive a port of Cyberpunk 20277 and in the dock mode is going to run and looks better than the PS4 Pro version…
Branded
Member
Needs more bits and bobs for the plebs to be really impressed.
Xdrive05
Member
Confirmation of 12GB is huge. There was always a possibility that was dev kit specs.
12GB of very fast mobile RAM brings a lot to the table, and mitigates the biggest bottleneck in the original Switch.
Remember that the slowdowns in the 3D Zelda games on switch are entirely due to the limited RAM bandwidth. When overclocking the other aspects, no change. Increasing the RAM bandwidth? Runs smoothly. Other Switch games have proven this out as well.
12GB of very fast mobile RAM brings a lot to the table, and mitigates the biggest bottleneck in the original Switch.
Remember that the slowdowns in the 3D Zelda games on switch are entirely due to the limited RAM bandwidth. When overclocking the other aspects, no change. Increasing the RAM bandwidth? Runs smoothly. Other Switch games have proven this out as well.
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Radical_3d
Member
Bold of you assuming we’re not doing just that.
Horseganador
Member
What is expected from Nintendo, if confirmed, is a cheap manufacturing process and cutting corners on the hardware as much as possible. Almost 3 years ago, the Steam Deck came with 16GB of RAM and the Switch 2 will come with less, which will be enough to make Nintendo games look much better.
jm89
Member
Bro thinks this is some flex. Congrats I guess, cause anything less is gonna be a big oof.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Moses85
Member
SportsFan581
Member
Nintendo newer would give us PS4> level performance for no reason, Switch 2 would run fast enough for Nintendo games with half the performance. By Nintendo standards Switch 2 seems exceptionally powerful.
