Bitmap Frogs
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Shit went downhill once we lost E3.
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
..... I wanted that.
MiguelItUp
Member
I don't know about all that, personally. But I think it would be a very interesting outcome.
Pandawan
Member
Actually this is true! Just look at Blizzcon's 15 years ago and now. Devs and gamers were on one note.
The same can be said about E3. Damn, E3 itself was something else but even the presentations of big publishes 10 years ago was much more alive. Companies executives actually went on stage to hold their new products in their hands and show them to us. Miyamoto danced on Wii Fit as i recall. This Microsoft's bald dude showed his GTA tatooes. Todd Howard lied about 16 times more details in person in front of a crowd. Damn f-ing Keanu Reeves told some guy the He is breathtaking.
Now it looks like they want to promote their games to Blackrock CEO not to the people. Just here you go get some video to boost out stock prices and make leakers shut up and that enough
It was something else
The same can be said about E3. Damn, E3 itself was something else but even the presentations of big publishes 10 years ago was much more alive. Companies executives actually went on stage to hold their new products in their hands and show them to us. Miyamoto danced on Wii Fit as i recall. This Microsoft's bald dude showed his GTA tatooes. Todd Howard lied about 16 times more details in person in front of a crowd. Damn f-ing Keanu Reeves told some guy the He is breathtaking.
Now it looks like they want to promote their games to Blackrock CEO not to the people. Just here you go get some video to boost out stock prices and make leakers shut up and that enough
It was something else
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Well, that tells the 30fps excuse on consoles won't go away, the devs will always quadruple the size of their games and reach new heights never seen before like they don't care to make a 100 hours linear RPGs cause it's something new to keep the players engaged in the main story much more than 40 hours. These people are crazy but creative.
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Been saying this for years OP. The showmanship has left the games industry, yet people shit on Geoff Keighley when he's basically all we got right now. Not saying he doesn't deserve criticism, because he does. It just not for his showmanship...it's for how he chooses to handle the nominees and victors of TGA.
I think a lot of this is because of a transition the gaming industry is going through. Layoffs abound. Microsoft doing away with exclusives basically. Sony with dry ass Jim at the head for the first half of the generation. Nintendo and it's decade-long minimalist strategy (it works, but fuck man).
I understand it takes millions to put on a show and somebody in charge must not see a return on that investment....or they feel they can get the same ROI by doing/costing less. But I think this illustrates a point OP is trying to make. The showmanship requires passion. I do feel passion is falling away and practicality has become more important.
I think a lot of this is because of a transition the gaming industry is going through. Layoffs abound. Microsoft doing away with exclusives basically. Sony with dry ass Jim at the head for the first half of the generation. Nintendo and it's decade-long minimalist strategy (it works, but fuck man).
I understand it takes millions to put on a show and somebody in charge must not see a return on that investment....or they feel they can get the same ROI by doing/costing less. But I think this illustrates a point OP is trying to make. The showmanship requires passion. I do feel passion is falling away and practicality has become more important.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I don't like Keighley's shtick because he danced on E3's grave only to produce literal Poor Man's E3.
Mainstream publishers used to feel somewhat obligated to show up and show out with AAA games and curated premium indies. Keighley's just raking in tens of thousands per minute from indies that mostly do nothing but take up real estate on digital storefronts. If he gets a AAA game he treats it like it's the second coming and kisses the feet of studio and the publisher just for showing up. And it's never a good showcase of the games. It's always A) a 90 second proof of concept or CGI trailer, B) a poorly cut trailer that shows zero full clips of gameplay, or C) little more than a title card.
Major studios don't respect Summer Game Fest, and devs see the Game Awards as an opportunity to self-felate, party, schmooze with influencers (lmao) and barely rub shoulders with celebrities. We're still doing the "ZOMG! Popular actor!" and misplaced musical performances thing we all hated from the worst E3s. We've taken all the bad stuff and none of the good.
Hydroxy
Member
I think PS2 generation was the best time for single player games while Ps3 gen for multiplayer. Now most games feel like they're coming off the factory production line, buggy and broken and take 6 months to get in working condition and the writing/story in video games seem to have become worse in the last few years.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
So I would say that while indie games can shore up some real stinkers who don't deserve any air time, there are some indie games that I actually hold in high regard. Sometimes you gotta sift through the rough to find a few diamonds.
As far as the showcasing of AAA games, these clips we view are made by the studios themselves. I'm not convinced that Keighley is pulling the strings as to how these games are shown. Admittedly, the format of the TGA's leave little room for in-depth reveals, however the Summer Games Fest should lend the space studios need to reveal their games more effectively. Add to the fact that major studios are more likely to opt for a proprietary showcase and we basically lose any semblance of a homogenous event like what wee were accustomed to with E3.
Lots of blame to go around, but think of where we would be if the TGA's or Summer Games Fest didn't at least attempt to fill the gap left by E3.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I think this being the shitiest generation of consoles has killed a lot of my enthusiasm for gaming. Switch 2 does make me happy though. Just means more Nintendo games on the horizon. And Nintendo games are the best.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Me too. I think Nintendo going all in on a portable VR platform would revolutionize the medium.
alabtrosMyster
Member
I thought I was the only one that noticed.
jzbadblood
Neo Member
Video games are toys man. Play them or don't. Spend less time thinking about the nonsense surrounding these toys and you'll be happier.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's a little reductive.
The artful mincer
Member
MSduderino
Member
The point is valid being made but the whole story isn't being told. Vidya games are more popular and acceptable than ever and that's a growing trend. We are seeing huge successes from recent games like Elden Ring, TOTK, Wukong, Helldivers 2, BG3, Hogwarts. Indies are also flourishing, like Vampire Suriviors, Balatro, Animal Well, UFO 50. I think all points have some truth to what the OP said, but this some of the story is getting left out.