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Most people who want the game will be playing on Playstation 5.

Yes the dozens and dozens of them.

 

[DonF]

this is this semester's starfield.

 

[solidus12]

Concord |OT| Better than Redfall

 

[DenchDeckard]

Concord |OT| Better than Redfall

Isn't it currently performing worse than redfall?

 

[solidus12]

Isn't it currently performing worse than redfall?

Is it? All I know is that it can’t be worse than Redfall…

I’m a PlayStation fan, and I want concord to fail.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Is it? All I know is that it can’t be worse than Redfall…

I’m a PlayStation fan, and I want concord to fail.

The free beta on Steam peaked at less than half of Redfall’s all time peak (Redfall peaked at 6000-something, Concord at 2300-something).

And keep in mind that Redfall was $70, and probably most people were playing on Gamepass instead of Steam. Whereas Concord beta was free, and they intend to charge $40 for the final release.

 

[solidus12]

The free beta on Steam peaked at less than half of Redfall’s all time peak (Redfall peaked at 6000-something, Concord at 2300-something).

And keep in mind that Redfall was $70, and probably most people were playing on Gamepass instead of Steam. Whereas Concord beta was free, and they intend to charge $40 for the final release.

Redfall turned out to be a disaster though. Concord can’t be THAT bad.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Fr though, It-Z looks like that lesbian that secretly gives her male roommate a bj on the regular.

She looks playful and freaky. Hold the tail and shove face in pillow type stuff.

 

[Mortisfacio]

This is lower than Hellblade 2's wishlist, right?

 

[kirby007]

Redfall turned out to be a disaster though. Concord can’t be THAT bad.

you cant really fuck up a overwatchclone

 

[clarky]

you cant really fuck up a overwatchclone

Concord: Hold my Babycham

 

[VolticArchangel]

This is lower than Hellblade 2's wishlist, right?

Damn, I haven't even thought of this that way lol

 

[MayauMiao]

If we keep making threads about its death, we are keeping it alive

Its more like having fun watching the house of woke burning down.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Its more like having fun watching the house of woke burning down.

These will be Concord skin packs for $20 a pop.

 

[MayauMiao]

These will be Concord skin packs for $20 a pop.

WTF was that? Holy shit glad I stop caring about the Olympics.

 

[Wishmaster92]

hahaha fuck you! Us gamers have spoken and this game is a colossal piece of shit

 

[ArtHands]

The free beta on Steam peaked at less than half of Redfall’s all time peak (Redfall peaked at 6000-something, Concord at 2300-something).

And keep in mind that Redfall was $70, and probably most people were playing on Gamepass instead of Steam. Whereas Concord beta was free, and they intend to charge $40 for the final release.

Just because Redfall is more successful than Concord right now doesn't mean Concord will be a failure.

 

[ViciousAgenda]

I got an email from Sony thanking me for playing and asking for feedback via a survey.

4 weeks away from launch, they want feedback

They genuinely must have thought this was a top notch game.

 

[CityHunter1981]

DOA? That game is already in an advanced state of decay on arrival?

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

DOA? That game is already in an advanced state of decay on arrival?

Decomposed on arrival?

 

[gothmog]

I got an email from Sony thanking me for playing and asking for feedback via a survey.

4 weeks away from launch, they want feedback

They genuinely must have thought this was a top notch game.

Yeah. I filled it out. Thinking about it if they launched as F2P with a limited set of characters while they reworked some of them it might help. Part of what kept me playing OW at first was the roster expanding bit by bit and not feeling overwhelmed at launch.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

this is this semester's starfield.

Starfield looks like GOTG when compared to Concord.
Oh, shit! I had to go down a rabbit hole and man, this game has disaster built right in it's very code.

 

[DenchDeckard]

These will be Concord skin packs for $20 a pop.

Nothing screams the centuries old physical and mental battle of competitive sports than that!

 

[Dirk Benedict]

WTF was that? Holy shit glad I stop caring about the Olympics.

WTF!? That's too damned Zesty. In the worst way, too.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Nothing screams the centuries old physical and mental battle of competitive sports than that!

Tbf I could see the ancient Greeks being all for it

 

[Negotiator101]

These Concord threads are starting to get ridiculous.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Tbf I could see the ancient Greeks being all for it

Surely the fruity cast from Hades is already at it.

 

[Salmonboy]

Stop making "free" games then!

 

[Varteras]

Firewalk isn't likely to be around by this time next year. And if what this guy's sources say is true, they deserve it more than I thought.

 

[Hypereides]

thats the thing, and they use this data to leadership as "look, its working, it keeps selling". It's difficult to grasp the consequences of this action in a short term period. For instance, myself I went like this:

1. The Last of Us - Left Behind: this is fine!
2. The Last of Us 2 (+ Neil interviews): mmm okay? I guess he wants to send a message.
3. Spiderman Miles Morales: Ok........ whats up with this stuff about people putting their hands up and all this political flags. I will be more cautious with what I buy from Sony.
4. Horizon 2: Okkkkk thats it, buying a PC (first time in like 10 years haha).

So in the process of like being turned off from this stuff, I still made 4 purchases to Sony. So from their side they were like "everything is fine, look at the numbers". But holy s%2t they lost a loyal customer from PS1 Era, like wth. I mean after they rebuild themselves again when they start seeing the trend then will be back so no hard feelings. (we just lost like an entire console generation because of this :/)

This. This is why unquestionably taking "orders" from the AAA marketing and business intelligence departments can be an actual risk or dangerous to the creative process. Those people have limited perception of long term creative consequences and reputational/brand damage they may involuntarily bring upon themselves. Their function hinges on crunching numbers and detecting fleeting trends/fads "in the moment" that could ultimately lead to compromising the final creation and its longevity.

People like that are in dire need of getting severely muzzled or influence nerfed within their own AAA orgs. There should be a call for shift in the power dynamic between actual developers/creators and the marketing suits pushing for ridiculous/nonsensical creative changes.*

*(mind you, this is taking into account a scenario where these activists masquerading as developers who have squatted AAA studios have been ousted.)

 

[DavidGzz]

Got their character color schemes idea from Concord grape jelly. So much purple.

 

[Boglin]

I might just have to wishlist it as my way of sending my thoughts and prayers to the devs during their tough times.
I won't actually buy it though. Ever.

 

[Valedix]

Concord |OT| Guardians of the Galaxy from Wish

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Just because Redfall is more successful than Concord right now doesn't mean Concord will be a failure.

Yeah it does.

 

[Starbuck2907]

Based on the thread from Men_in_Boxes 93% of us agree. Some people seem to be taking glee in the game's failure though, maybe Microsoft shills.

No, it’s just that Sony fans aren’t used to disappointment from first party games like we are, so they complain more.

 

[Dundar]

Concord [OT] Low TTK

 

[gothmog]

Tbf I could see the ancient Greeks being all for it

Also if you watched the whole opening you would probably applaud the way they basically thumbed their nose at the elite and the church.

 

[Esppiral]

Yeah, that's a mistake. It has pointed out in responses on twitter.

Keyword "Yet"

 

[ArtHands]

we're still couple of weeks away from launch. There's enough time for the wishlist to roll in before launch

 

[PeteBull]

we're still couple of weeks away from launch. There's enough time for the wishlist to roll in before launch

Yups, those 20 transformers are about to wishlist this game, they just finished paris olimpics christian parody so they are free atm,they gonna wishlist concord any day now

 

[Codes 208]

we're still couple of weeks away from launch. There's enough time for the wishlist to roll in before launch

thats just enough time to set up a funeral service

Because this game is doa

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Is it? All I know is that it can’t be worse than Redfall…

I’m a PlayStation fan, and I want concord to fail.

That's like comparing two turds side by side no winners

 

[Black_Stride]

Firewalk isn't likely to be around by this time next year. And if what this guy's sources say is true, they deserve it more than I thought.

Firewalk and Haven are likely going to be Bungie support studios if their games fail.
Sony aint gonna close a studio they just acquired because of one bad game.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Tbf I could see the ancient Greeks being all for it

100% correct tbf.

 

[Varteras]

Firewalk and Haven are likely going to be Bungie support studios if their games fail.
Sony aint gonna close a studio they just acquired because of one bad game.

Depends on how much money they lost and how dysfunctional they appear. Pixelopus was a small team that only made two low budget games before they got closed.

Microsoft closed Alpha Dog and Arkane Austin after both studios dropped only one game under their ownership. Roundhouse never got to release a game before they were folded into another studio. Tango released two games within two years of being bought, one of which won awards. They still got closed in short order too.

I wouldn't be so confident about Firewalk sticking around if Concord absolutely craters after 5 years of development with no great games in its legacy to point to.

 

[Black_Stride]

Depends on how much money they lost and how dysfunctional they appear. Pixelopus was a small team that only made two low budget games before they got closed.

Microsoft closed Alpha Dog and Arkane Austin after both studios dropped only one game under their ownership. Roundhouse never got to release a game before they were folded into another studio. Tango released two games within two years of being bought, one of which won awards. They still got closed in short order too.

I wouldn't be so confident about Firewalk sticking around if Concord absolutely craters after 5 years of development with no great games in its legacy to point to.

FireWalk and Haven are still "good" at multiplayer and netcode.
Move some people around, keep the studios open to support Bungie and Sonys other multiplayer titles.

They aint wasting that talent, sure they might not be great game designers, but the engineering side of things seems solid and they would be a boon to Bungie and other studios.

 

[Varteras]

FireWalk and Haven are still "good" at multiplayer and netcode.
Move some people around, keep the studios open to support Bungie and Sonys other multiplayer titles.

They aint wasting that talent, sure they might not be great game designers, but the engineering side of things seems solid and they would be a boon to Bungie and other studios.

You can't say anything about Haven's ability until we actually see their game. You're giving them a whole lot of credit for nothing.

Even if there is talent in these teams, it is more likely that they'd try to find jobs for them within functioning, successful teams instead of trying to keep the lights on at whole companies and hope they replace the right people. Bad studios are like cancer. Sometimes you can cut out the bad parts, but sometimes you just have to remove the whole organ.

That's what they did when they closed Pixelopus. One of its senior team members got a job elsewhere at PlayStation. Every studio has talent. That has no bearing on if they close a studio that ended up costing them a bunch of money.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This. This is why unquestionably taking "orders" from the AAA marketing and business intelligence departments can be an actual risk or dangerous to the creative process. Those people have limited perception of long term creative consequences and reputational/brand damage they may involuntarily bring upon themselves. Their function hinges on crunching numbers and detecting fleeting trends/fads "in the moment" that could ultimately lead to compromising the final creation and its longevity.

People like that are in dire need of getting severely muzzled or influence nerfed within their own AAA orgs. There should be a call for shift in the power dynamic between actual developers/creators and the marketing suits pushing for ridiculous/nonsensical creative changes.*

*(mind you, this is taking into account a scenario where these activists masquerading as developers who have squatted AAA studios have been ousted.)

Well, it kind of depends on the game or franchise.

I don’t think any marketing dept or finance bean counters gunned for a game like concord. It was probably pushed through by weird creatives.

Business doesn’t have to be groundbreaking every time. Nor does bags of chips or coffee tables. Just make a solid product that people know they’ll get something pretty good and predictable and that’s good for long term success. Many of the most popular money making games are annual rehashes or one giant game that does updates or dlc like Minecraft or Fortnite for years.

That new delta force shooter game is wishlisted by tons of people. It looks like just one big BF dude bro military shooter. But if that’s what people like, it doesn’t have to be visionary. Just a solid big battle solider shooter with some tanks and helicopters thrown in.

I think the problem with creatives and anyone who goes against the grain is that they think their idea is best ever, and anything from another military shooter with an ak47 or chocolate chip cookie is dumb and boring. But hey, if they sell great because the general public likes it, then there’s no reason you can’t make a similar product and improve on it.

 

[midasmulligan]

Checks trailer, makes sense

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I would have but I'm a shitgameaphobe