AHA-Lambda
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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wait, that came out?
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Holy shit.
Wish I could find out what my predictions were for sales numbers; it's a really old comment tho and I don't feel like searching for it right now. But I know I didn't have XBO at half PS4's numbers. Those PS4 numbers are actually probably better than average for January but I know those XBO numbers are well below the average.
I honestly don't see XBO getting a lead for NPD until TitanFall, and now I'm seriously doubting even that.
Wish I could find out what my predictions were for sales numbers; it's a really old comment tho and I don't feel like searching for it right now. But I know I didn't have XBO at half PS4's numbers. Those PS4 numbers are actually probably better than average for January but I know those XBO numbers are well below the average.
I honestly don't see XBO getting a lead for NPD until TitanFall, and now I'm seriously doubting even that.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
The Wii was over 400K (436K). PS2 was I think like 300K based on some #s people posted before.
lol I didn't realize it was out either, jeez.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot. 
Bottom line:
Sony is still selling every PS4 they are building. MS is now no longer selling every XBO they're building.
Next gen isn't doomed here. During a worldwide launch and while they're able to produce maybe a bit more than 1 million consoles per month, they sold 350,000ish just in the US during that month. Nothing doom-and-gloom worthy here.
Sony is still selling every PS4 they are building. MS is now no longer selling every XBO they're building.
Next gen isn't doomed here. During a worldwide launch and while they're able to produce maybe a bit more than 1 million consoles per month, they sold 350,000ish just in the US during that month. Nothing doom-and-gloom worthy here.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
pieatorium
Member
both are ahead launch alined, ps4 widening the gap this month xbox gap got smaller
You should do the totals too.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Something we're not likely to see again because the costs of production have inflated so much.
lol what. No. The price is the biggest reason, all the bad press in 2013 the second.
WickedLaharl
Member
Damn I was hoping MS would adopt Xbox Family or ecosystem
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
airmangataosenai
Member
Well to be fair, even the XBO is tracking ahead of all other gaming platforms in the history of the game industry right now, although that is likely to change soon.
Overall sales have been very high, over 4 million next-gen platforms sold within 3 months is high by any standards. PS4 is currently at more than double what PS2 was at at a comparable point in it's life.
enanogrande
Member
Not only was PS4 supply constrained, there is no alternative to the Wii this time - no $250 dollar wonder box.
There's going to be a big market contraction for sure, but anyone thinking that part of the market was here to stay was always deluding themselves.
Is this in the US. In the UK the game is not doing so well, less than 40k sales in 2 weeks with nearly a million next gen consoles in the wild.
Aquamarine
Member
1138K.
Anyone seen an ad for it anywhere? >.> (Havent in UK)
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Ahh, thank you. That actually makes me feel a lot better. I want the PS4 to track over the PS2 in every territory, so it can make up for the shifting demand in Japan. Still, really want Nintendo and MS to make some serious moves, and get off their asses.
speculawyer
Member
Meh. Sales of consoles & console games to very young kids is screwed because the parents just buy them 99 cent games to play on tablets. So the industry lost a chunk of their market. But the hardcore stuff seems to keep selling.
LiquidSolid
Member
Less than?
SwiftDeath
Member
The best we're probably going to get this gen in price drops on certain older titles.
That's even more sad IMO.
Thanks.
I'm expecting 3DS OG at 149.99, 3DS XL at 169.99 soon and, around September - October, 2DS at 99.99 (then, 79.99 on Black Friday). I'd love to see game prices going down in general, but I fear it won't happen.
Next console must come in Fall 2015 / Q1 2016, not later.
Next console must come in Fall 2015 / Q1 2016, not later.
pieatorium
Member
I would argue its already happened with ks and indies, the barrier of entry to the market is lower than ever
shinra-bansho
Member
We don't actually have any numbers for the 360 and PS3 yet...
Again what exactly are you expecting? Put a number to it? Did you expect the PS4 and Xbox One to surge the hardware market back up to 12M units where they peaked last time around immediately? Is that what's disappointing, the lack of instant turnaround?
During the last generational transition the TTM for Sony and Microsoft's combined systems hit a low at 7.9M, before beginning to recover. You've taken a point in time at Jan 2007 when they had already almost returned to the historical watermark.
Are you saying you don't expect them to be able to return to this historical watermark of around 10M TTM?
*For the purpose of this exercise I'm ignoring Nintendo's systems, since they're anomalous in both their success with the Wii and their failure with the Wii U.
A contraction in the market is a contraction in the market, okay but it ignores the nuance of the software those markets buy and the implications that has on publishers. If I'm Ubisoft I'm far more concerned about the future of Just Dance now than I am about the future of Assassin's Creed. Because these numbers don't go towards a conclusion of their not being a "core" market for these home console devices.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
Lets get this party started!
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
It really should only be worrying that the number is not higher because the console is so easy to find. No need to compare it to past Xbox consoles.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-microsoft-xbox-one-in-january-sony-says.html
"Combined sales for the PS4 and its predecessor, the PlayStation 3, surpassed all other platforms in January, Sony said."
Meaning: PS3+PS4>One+3DS+360+WiiU+PSV+Wii in America.
PS3 sold quite well this month it sounds like.
"Combined sales for the PS4 and its predecessor, the PlayStation 3, surpassed all other platforms in January, Sony said."
Meaning: PS3+PS4>One+3DS+360+WiiU+PSV+Wii in America.
PS3 sold quite well this month it sounds like.
And software was cheaper to make back then. If this market shrinks to Sub PS2 generation levels which it is looking highly likely. There won't be enough market to support all those varied games. Hell won't be enough to support anything but the anual top dog franchises with such a small market.
BoboBrazil
Member
Great news. This means PS4 will be the lead platform going forward. Now MS is going to start trying to buy off more 3rd party exclusives.
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
I have no idea what this post even means, but the Xbox One has sold considerably less in January than both the PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Wii did in their first January months, so take from it what you will.
Now how is THAT possible.
Plus the previous generation systems are older than the PS2 was at this point. The PS2 was still pretty dominant sales-wise in 2006 and 2007.
Moral Panic
Member
Wow.
When I heard 2x XB1 I was like MS you really screwed yourself but PS4 didn't really sell through anything significant either, so maybe they are both screwed. I still have hope for PS4 though, really disappointed in MS this gen.
Personally I don't see how MS can claw themselves out of this one, investors don't want Xbox and their design team were clearly incompetent or otherwise not very forward looking. Every multiplat game will look worse and word of mouth will really stop any real traction. Japan is already lost before it started and Europe is looking that way too. And now Sony is increasing their lead in NA too. Unless Mexico becomes a major gaming nation, MS decides to dump millions into exclusives or manages to pick up another few Minecrafts, it's already over.
When I heard 2x XB1 I was like MS you really screwed yourself but PS4 didn't really sell through anything significant either, so maybe they are both screwed. I still have hope for PS4 though, really disappointed in MS this gen.
Personally I don't see how MS can claw themselves out of this one, investors don't want Xbox and their design team were clearly incompetent or otherwise not very forward looking. Every multiplat game will look worse and word of mouth will really stop any real traction. Japan is already lost before it started and Europe is looking that way too. And now Sony is increasing their lead in NA too. Unless Mexico becomes a major gaming nation, MS decides to dump millions into exclusives or manages to pick up another few Minecrafts, it's already over.
gundamkyoukai
Member
The question is when are we going to get a better look at the market in usa .
Sony launch in so many countries it may take another 2 to 4 months for us to get a better idea how they doing here .
It's kind of crazy they already out in 50 plus countries and we know Feb not going to be any better with there supply problems with Japanese launch .
Too lazy
That can't be true. XB1 was second with 144k, meaning top PS3 sales are 143k. It's unlikely it beat 3DS and 360.
ChoklitCow
Member
I don't even know what to say about this deflection:
Relaxed Muscle
Member
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
Is a very big drop.
Nothing really important or definitive right now, but shows that outside of the early adopters there's not much of a interest on Xbox One, or rather than PS4 is a more valuable product for ppl.
That's worrying. Even you should be able to see that.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
If this is what you call a party, I fear for your sanity. ;D
A drop that was bound to happen considering record setting launch numbers that are only topped, I think, by the PS4. Am I mistaken? Either way, the first 3 months of the year were always the ones I was most paying attention to, because I thought they would tell us the most about the effect of the $100 price difference between the two machines. If it's true that the PS4 practically doubled the Xbox One's numbers, then that sounds within expectations of what should happen when one system is $100 more expensive than the other, and we are no longer in the holiday shopping season. That said, still too early to draw conclusions. Let's see February and March roll in, and see where things are at then. Then again, I'm almost tempted to not read too much into a possible Titanfall boost in sales, as if a boost does occur, it may not exactly represent the norm, thus making April -- where things should calm a bit -- more important than March. Nonetheless, solid numbers for Sony and the PS4. A healthy industry indeed. If the trend of doubled sales continues, then, yes, that would be reason for concern, but, again, too early right now.
Simon Says
Banned
Do we have actual numbers yet or are we still using estimates?
enanogrande
Member
lol i thought I saw everything. People are comparing the first January of other xbox consoles to the newest one to predict doom when the newest one is already selling significantly better than either of those 2? You're a strange lot.
Spin this for me then: almost 50% less than its supply constrained competitor. Should we predict doom, or a lifetime in second place?
shadowsdarknes
Member
Go read forums with a bunch of Xbox fanboys. You'll see.