Capcom can port anything.. they ported SF Alpha II on SFC for example.. also they ported RE4 on PS2 against the will of its developer... its the money that matters for capcom and looking at RE4 Wii edition sales i could see it beeing ported to Wii.. Ofcourse the graphix will suffer.. But Re4 esque graphics would be fine for me (Ill probably get the 360 version and the Wii version if that happens)
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NPD Sales Results for June 2007
- Thread starter EviLore
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Make one RE on PS3/360 that is essential to the storyline - call it RE5 if you wish
Make one RE on Wii that is essential to the storyline - call it RE5 if you wish
want the entire storyline correct? Buy both.
That is my ideal solution.
No need for whiny bitchy fanboys saying "I WANT IT ALL WITH HD" or "I WANT IT ALL WITH WAGGLE!"
Make one RE on Wii that is essential to the storyline - call it RE5 if you wish
want the entire storyline correct? Buy both.
That is my ideal solution.
No need for whiny bitchy fanboys saying "I WANT IT ALL WITH HD" or "I WANT IT ALL WITH WAGGLE!"
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
HokieJoe said:
That is really both lovely and poignant.
haunts said:
I figured one reason that NGS would sell pretty well because of the relative dearth of good PS3 games to play. I don't know that NGS is a AAA title in terms of marketing, but it damn sure is a AAA game in terms of quality. Of course, it doesn't matter how good the product is, if no one knows about it, it won't sell.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Sharp said:
Yeah. And let me add one more thing: Square-Enix will be likely, the biggest supporter of Nintendo, as they have been with the DS. Why ?
Because they are the most dependent of Japan. Simply third parties like Capcom or Konami are very west-oriented developers (or at least lot more then otehr japanese developers) and they can shift their objectives to the west, supporting, as much as they can, both X360 and PS3 (but, of course, exceptions are possible).
Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Davil May Cry, Monster Hunter are franchise appreciated overall by western audience. This means that they can still ignore the Wii as long as the west will remains partly and enough in the hands or Microsoft and Sony combined.
Square-Enix is a lot more limited in that sense, because they have only ONE BIG franchise that sell well in the west: Final Fantasy. But, this alone, is not eough and they have to support Nintendo's consoles to survive. THIS explain Dragon Quest IX on DS. THIS explain FF XIII still on PS3. THIS explain why, mark my words, Draqon Quest X will remain on DS or shift on Wii.
Namco-Bandai, is another story: they're in the same situation, because their games are overall typical for japanese audience, but their support for the DS and the Wii is increasing only recently. Why ?
Because of the PS2 (Two, not three
). Look at many recent anime- or robot-based games that shipped on PS2: they still sold lots of copies. But the mighty PS2 will not last forever and so, they have no choice since the majority of their games is not for the west: support the Wii and DS. THIS explain the decision to make the DS the main console for the "Tales of" series.Note: this process is anyway a lot slower the it has been with Square-Enix, because there is another factor that slow down the passage to Nintendo's platforms: the PSP. THIS explain the n-ports of "Tales of" games on this handheld.
Well, these were my thought.
Ah, the final conclusion is that Third parties will do ALL their possible to prevent another decade of Nintendo's domination.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
PSP games don't disappoint and then get remade as DS games. DC games didn't disappoint and then get remade as PS1 games. This is something that just hasn't happened, so why should it all of a sudden seem like something that might happen with this particular game?Terrell said:
Sho_Nuff82
Member
farnham said:
I think people are getting a bit ahead of themselves.
RE4 Wii has sold decent for a 2+ year old port at $30, but Lost Planet sold about 250k more in about the same timeframe (from Jan NPD) at twice the price (or more, since the LE sold pretty well as well). Its sales aren't THAT amazing, even with all the caveats thrown out in this thread.
Thus far, Capcom hasn't shown any indication that they care about Japanese sales for any franchise outside of Monster Hunter, so I'm sure paltry Japanese PS3 sales they get for RE5 (500k range) will tide them over.
Different situations, different markets. Why bring Code Veronica to PS1 after disappointing sales on DC when PS2 was already released? And the PSP-to-DS situation is tough to gauge, since most of the titles from major 3rd-parties have been ports, and if they weren't ports, they were Monster Hunter titles that actually sold. Name me one big-ticket 3rd-party franchise on PSP that wasn't a port that bombed on PSP. Problem is there's been next to none.JoshuaJSlone said:
And yeah, a console as underpowered as Wii when compared to the competition hasn't happened, either, so maybe we need to consider that there are too many unknowns to have a stable precedent in regards to this.
And you didn't answer the original question anyways... what's the harm in Capcom doing something like that? You only posited reasons it won't happen, which isn't really for any of us to say, given the market situation we're in.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
HokieJoe said:
Oh I thought the Cat represented Caturday threads.
:lol
Well that depends..JoshuaJSlone said:
They (Capcom) ported Code Veronica from DC to PS2 to maximize sales...same with RE4, though at least they announced the PS2 port before porting it, which for many was a bad move...
Also the recent PSP to PS2 ports like GTA Liberty City Stories (though that sold a million on the PSP), Vice City Stories (which was announced/ported faster than Liberty City), Syphon Filter, etc.....
It happened before, but as always it depends on the developer...Capcom was willing to cut corners to release the RE4 game on the PS2, so who knows what else might happen..they have already expressed interest in remaking the old games on Wii and that RE5 on Wii depends on the current Wii games/sales...and Capcom, so only time will tell.
Saint Gregory
Member
Why are people still acting as though Capcom makes rational decisions about which systems to put their games on? Seriously, Capcom's been one of my favorite developers since the NES age but they're batshit insane when it comes to everyday business.
Dreamcast? PSP? Gamecube? I'm not saying that they shouldn't have given them support and I personally purchased most of those exclusives but they have a history of giving focus to systems that don't warrant that kind of attention.
They seem to hate money. Stop pretending that they'll do things that make perfect sense.
Dreamcast? PSP? Gamecube? I'm not saying that they shouldn't have given them support and I personally purchased most of those exclusives but they have a history of giving focus to systems that don't warrant that kind of attention.
They seem to hate money. Stop pretending that they'll do things that make perfect sense.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Saint Gregory said:
Read my posts. (this and in the other page.)
From the sounds of things, RE5 is still 2 years away (maybe more). Why is there so much discussion about that game? The game is too old and too far away to be used as any measure of Capcom's current support for each platform.
RE4 Wii sales are very good. There is no way to downplay that without implying that all 3rd party sales sucked last month. It's going to demolish Capcom's expectations and that will only help the Wii's image in their eyes.
I love Mithos' definition of third party! It makes a 3rd party Wii game the top selling game of the month.
RE4 Wii sales are very good. There is no way to downplay that without implying that all 3rd party sales sucked last month. It's going to demolish Capcom's expectations and that will only help the Wii's image in their eyes.
I love Mithos' definition of third party! It makes a 3rd party Wii game the top selling game of the month.
MasterMFauli
Banned
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Wow, so a port of a 2 year old game didnt sell as well as a brand new game...
Saint Gregory
Member
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
That wasn't directed at you, just the people wondering why RE5 isn't on Wii or why Okami and K7 haven't
yet
Given the type of games they make the fact that they're practically ignoring the DS still boggles my mind.
KachoMakura
Banned
I had no idea Diddy Kong Racing was doing this well. Awesome
Sho_Nuff82
Member
MasterMFauli said:
If it had, it might warrant some of this rampant "Capcom is stupid if they don't port RE5 to the Wii" talk.
MasterMFauli
Banned
Sho_Nuff82 said:
The amount this 2 year old game is selling now on Wii does already warrant the "rampant".
As far as RE5 goes (I just finished RE4 tonight for the first time) I'd love to see it on the Wii, but if Capcom doesn't do it...it won't be the end of the world. Can't wait for 5 now, 4 was AWESOME.
Well DKR is awesome so it's only fair. Imho it was always superior to Mario Kart as far as single player goes anyway.
KachoMakura said:I had no idea Diddy Kong Racing was doing this well. Awesome
Well DKR is awesome so it's only fair. Imho it was always superior to Mario Kart as far as single player goes anyway.
KachoMakura
Banned
Saint Gregory said:
The fact that they are currently throwing tons of support at the 360 (the market leader) shows they've learned a lot from past mistakes. I fully expect them to throw their weight behind the Wii aswell. They've already got 1 RE game plus 2 more coming on the system. That's unheard of this early in the game.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Sho_Nuff82 said:
I'm not too sure but I think Lost Planet had more days out in the market for its first NPD.
Saint Gregory
Member
Link316 said:
You're right, my bad. It makes perfect business sense to not pay attention to the best selling game device in your HOME COUNTRY. I really should just defer to their wisdom, I'm just their consumer after all.
Saint Gregory
Member
KachoMakura said:
Don't get me wrong, I was just saying that they threw a lot of big support behind the 360 when they couldn't have been sure that it would do as well as it has. Their last system sold terribly in Japan (and the 360 is doing worse) and the most of us thought the PS3 was going to blow it out of the water in the US and Europe.
I'd like to think that they're smarter than all of us but as I said their track record says otherwise.
Actually, yep..around a week and a half more...Jamesfrom818 said:
Release: January 12, 2007
Sales in January 2007: 329,000
Links:
Sales (Debut) January 2007
Second month (Feb. 2007) LP sales
KachoMakura
Banned
oo Kosma oo said:
My bad just looked it up. For some reason I thought the light gun game and RE:UC were seperate games. RE4 Wii is already out, so that makes 2 RE games then.
Saint Gregory
Member
Innotech said:
Occasionally they sober up long enough to do something like that
Xisiqomelir
Member
Cheebs said:
They changed the definition after January NPD, didn't you get the memo?
KachoMakura
Banned
If I'm not mistaken 360 has the largest marketshare, isn't that how the market leader is defined?
In some way yeah,..at least global numbers...but..KachoMakura said:
Most of the Xbox 360s are in the US (over 5 million of them) and the rest are divided between Europe, Asia and the rest of the world..
The Wii at the moment has similar numbers across all regions..a little more balanced and is just behind the 360 by around 1 million units..
Saint Gregory
Member
Speevy said:
Not worldwide but they will be in the lead in US sales for at least another six months.
Microsoft might as well ride high until then.
edit: In fact, with the right price cuts they really could hold off the Wii in the USA for some time. Worldwide is a wash though.
BTW when was the last time we got solid 360 numbers for Europe?
Version 3.0
Member
I'd like to ask a question on the topic of "3rd party games don't sell on the Wii".
What 3rd party games have not sold as well as they should have on the Wii?
What 3rd party games have not sold as well as they should have on the Wii?
GhaleonEB said:
Considering that the Wii is supply constrained, all it would take is an increase in production to negate the effect of a 360 price drop. Of course, ramping up production isn't easy and takes time, but hopefully Nintendo will be prepared for the holidays.
Then again, it's Nintendo.