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Nvidia insider speaks out about RTX 50 series launch – Not even employees can get GPUs

Draugoth

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According to the report, this is the first time Nvidia employees are unable to purchase GPUs internally. That’s not a good look for Nvidia, as their staff must include some of the most hardcore GPU enthusiasts on the planet. Internal availability for GPUs will not start until “widespread stabilization” is achieved.

Not sure how widespread the dissatisfaction is, but I can at least tell you anecdotally that I [Nvidia Engineer], and every coworker I’ve spoken with on the matter is outraged with how this launch has been handled.
The employee storefront states that “due to shortages” no RTX 50 Series supply will be available until “widespread stabilization”. This hasn’t happened before, everyone is confused, and there’s a lot of people asking questions even inside Nvidia as to why we’re screwing over gaming so bad this time around…
– Alleged Nvidia Insider – via Moore’s Law is Dead

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dave_d

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According to the report, this is the first time Nvidia employees are unable to purchase GPUs internally. That’s not a good look for Nvidia, as their staff must include some of the most hardcore GPU enthusiasts on the planet. Internal availability for GPUs will not start until “widespread stabilization” is achieved.



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Well to be fair management there probably figures "Why don't you just cash out some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars you made off Nvidia stock and pay a scalper."
 

Hudo

Gold Member
So: They've launched a product which is a) grossly overpriced, b) not that big of a jump compared to the last generation of products and c) not available to buy anywhere.

The sad part is that they will be successful regardless.
 
Imagine gossip inside Nvidia if employees couldn't buy the RTX50
If you go to a bar near the Nvidia office, you might hear an employee complaining that they can't buy the RTX50
"Assuming the rumor is true, it's likely to be true."
 
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Never launch a new product if they're not ready. The demand is always there for these. So produce enough before you announce the launch date. They're going to sell regardless. So I say to people who can't find an Nvidia card, just go AMD.
 

Radical_3d

Member
Steve from Gamers Nexus reported the same thing a few days ago, so it’s probably true. It could even be that MLID stole this from him and is passing this off as his own insiders feeding him information.
Always trust that metal head.
 

Magic Carpet

Gold Member
Conspiracy Theory time,
The end of the production line is a guy with a screwdriver and a hammer smacking the chips and another guy that stamps the letter 'D' on the end, all shipped off to China.
 
He said it's easy for this to have leaked, if it's true. Anyone here could have access to this type of information
That's still putting the cart before the horse. How easily something could be leaked if it was true tells us nothing about whether or not it actually is true.

Anyone here could have access to this type of information, but anyone here could also be lying about it for clicks and upvotes.
 
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rm082e

Member
So: They've launched a product which is a) grossly overpriced, b) not that big of a jump compared to the last generation of products and c) not available to buy anywhere.

The sad part is that they will be successful regardless.

That really depends on how you define "successful" right?

If they don't have cards to sell it's not going to amount to much because the volume is low. I wouldn't call selling out of a few thousand cards world wide a "success". Obviously this will change as production ramps up, but to what degree? We'll have to see how that works out.

If the poor value proposition leads to lower sales, they may not care because the AI side of the business is doing so well. That's fine right up until the point where a competitor comes out with a great product. I know the sentiment right now is "that can't happen". That was the exact feeling people had about AMD vs. Intel up until AMD came out with Ryzen. In just three years, AMD replaced Intel as the best chips for gaming. I wouldn't call a period of resting on their laurels "successful".

Right now, I haven't seen any gamers who are happy with Nvidia or defending them in comments. Nvidia has put their users in a situation where they feel like they're being taken advantage of, and they all wish AMD would come out with a great line of products that punch Nvidia in the mouth. I wouldn't call a hostile user base a "success".

Basically what they're doing will work right up to the moment it doesn't.
 

Zacfoldor

Member
Yeah, there is no competition so they can get away with it. That's the point. Having perpetual scarcity helps with their supply chain and marketing so they don't build expensive inventory, no need for 3PL, they do paper launches and sell it to you at MSRP until the next one comes out. The beatings will continue until competition improves.
 
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Hudo

Gold Member
That really depends on how you define "successful" right?

If they don't have cards to sell it's not going to amount to much because the volume is low. I wouldn't call selling out of a few thousand cards world wide a "success". Obviously this will change as production ramps up, but to what degree? We'll have to see how that works out.

If the poor value proposition leads to lower sales, they may not care because the AI side of the business is doing so well. That's fine right up until the point where a competitor comes out with a great product. I know the sentiment right now is "that can't happen". That was the exact feeling people had about AMD vs. Intel up until AMD came out with Ryzen. In just three years, AMD replaced Intel as the best chips for gaming. I wouldn't call a period of resting on their laurels "successful".

Right now, I haven't seen any gamers who are happy with Nvidia or defending them in comments. Nvidia has put their users in a situation where they feel like they're being taken advantage of, and they all wish AMD would come out with a great line of products that punch Nvidia in the mouth. I wouldn't call a hostile user base a "success".

Basically what they're doing will work right up to the moment it doesn't.
I agree with you. But also: There are a lot of fucking retards who will pay any price. We've seen it with the 4000 series already. That shit was (and still is) overpriced as well.
 

Roni

Member
This wouldn't be so bad if they didn't pull the 40 series from production just to force people into buying this. I struggle to believe that at the market cap they're at they can't afford to pay the foundry to keep both series going. I can understand retiring the 30 series when 50 comes out. But killing the 40 series is just greedy. Hopefully DeepSeek, this bizarre launch and AMD showing up with new RT tech rekindles some fear into the hearts of the company's leadership.
 
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Wildebeest

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At this point the gaming cards are just defective versions of the server parts with defective parts of the chip disabled. The server parts are way more premium and in demand.
 
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Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
that reads like pure fan fiction even before considering the source... lol
 

MiguelItUp

Member
I don't really see this as news, lol. There's clearly a supply and demand issue. So, in situations like this, I'd imagine employees can't even get one. If they had a ton of them and all of this wasn't an issue then it'd be a different story.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Marketing I image. My company just released a new service that is too expensive and too useless and expects almost nobody to actually buy it. The only reason it was released, internally, was to brag we're the first company to ever do it.
That’s a small part of it, but the bigger reason is that nvidia simply cares little for gamers…they won’t completely abandon them since they will need them when (if?) the AI bubble collapses….

Their focus is on making Blackwell chips for AI not GPUs. AI chips sell for $20000 vs $2000. It’s not hard to see why supply is so low.
 

rm082e

Member
I agree with you. But also: There are a lot of fucking retards who will pay any price. We've seen it with the 4000 series already. That shit was (and still is) overpriced as well.

Eh, I have a hard time calling people retards.

I am on a 3080 (5800x3d, QHD monitor). All the games I'm playing still run above 60 with the settings I like, so I don't quite need a new card yet. But looking at benchmarks, there are new games on my wishlist that I won't be able to maintain 60 on. So I'd like a new card at some point.

Despite having two unimpressive generations in a row, the 5080 is typically about double the average frame rate of my 3080 in most games. Also, I can afford to spend the money on it. So would I be a retard for buying one (assuming I could find one in stock)?

Well what's the alternative?
  • I can buy a weaker card, but the 7900XT and 4080 didn't get me to bite, so why would I do that now?
  • I don't have much interest in the 9070XT because the leaks suggest it's around a 7900XTX, but with less VRAM.
  • I could hold out longer and wait for a 5080 Ti, but you know that's going to be $1500 MSRP, so the "frames-per-dollar" value won't be any better.
  • I could wait for a 6080, but what if it's even more expensive and just as disappointing relative to the previous generation?
  • I could also go kamikaze and get a 5090 since it's a little better value than the 5080 given the extra VRAM, but then Nvidia is winning by getting me to spend way more on a GPU...but then the 5090 is like 3x my 3080 and I'd be maxing out everything at 165hz which sounds pretty sweet.
There's no good answer here. Those of us who like the higher performance cards but don't want to keep upping our spend are over a barrel. We will be stuck here until a competitor comes along, or the AI bubble crashes and Nvidia has to come back to gamers with more enticing products/prices.

For me, I've got a bunch of unfinished games on my desktop. My goal this year is to work on finishing them out with my current hardware. I'll revisit the hardware side probably in late summer. If at that time we're still looking at $1200 for the 5080 and $2400 for the 5090...ugh... :messenger_downcast_sweat:
 

Pagusas

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its great marketing, that's for sure, and I bet the third parties love it, as for at least the next 1/2 year consumers will eat up any card that makes its way to being in stock, so shit brands like Gigabtye, Galaxy, and Zotac will still be bought at the same rate as the more desirable cards like the FE/Astral/Suprim. They've created a mindset of a "must have product, I need to buy the first one I see in stock as its so rare!".
 
Eh, I have a hard time calling people retards.

I am on a 3080 (5800x3d, QHD monitor). All the games I'm playing still run above 60 with the settings I like, so I don't quite need a new card yet. But looking at benchmarks, there are new games on my wishlist that I won't be able to maintain 60 on. So I'd like a new card at some point.

Despite having two unimpressive generations in a row, the 5080 is typically about double the average frame rate of my 3080 in most games. Also, I can afford to spend the money on it. So would I be a retard for buying one (assuming I could find one in stock)?

Well what's the alternative?
  • I can buy a weaker card, but the 7900XT and 4080 didn't get me to bite, so why would I do that now?
  • I don't have much interest in the 9070XT because the leaks suggest it's around a 7900XTX, but with less VRAM.
  • I could hold out longer and wait for a 5080 Ti, but you know that's going to be $1500 MSRP, so the "frames-per-dollar" value won't be any better.
  • I could wait for a 6080, but what if it's even more expensive and just as disappointing relative to the previous generation?
  • I could also go kamikaze and get a 5090 since it's a little better value than the 5080 given the extra VRAM, but then Nvidia is winning by getting me to spend way more on a GPU...but then the 5090 is like 3x my 3080 and I'd be maxing out everything at 165hz which sounds pretty sweet.
There's no good answer here. Those of us who like the higher performance cards but don't want to keep upping our spend are over a barrel. We will be stuck here until a competitor comes along, or the AI bubble crashes and Nvidia has to come back to gamers with more enticing products/prices.

For me, I've got a bunch of unfinished games on my desktop. My goal this year is to work on finishing them out with my current hardware. I'll revisit the hardware side probably in late summer. If at that time we're still looking at $1200 for the 5080 and $2400 for the 5090...ugh... :messenger_downcast_sweat:
People that call others names for how they spend their money just come across as jealous imo
 
People that call others names for how they spend their money just come across as jealous imo
eh most people are retarded with money

not in the "im buying without regard to price" way, but spending habits that leave them with little to no savings/wealth + lack of investments/assets.
both're retarded.

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but yeah, the 5090 is overpriced.
and im still willing to pay $2k for one.
but you can bet your ass im retarded.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Eh, I have a hard time calling people retards.

I am on a 3080 (5800x3d, QHD monitor). All the games I'm playing still run above 60 with the settings I like, so I don't quite need a new card yet. But looking at benchmarks, there are new games on my wishlist that I won't be able to maintain 60 on. So I'd like a new card at some point.

Despite having two unimpressive generations in a row, the 5080 is typically about double the average frame rate of my 3080 in most games. Also, I can afford to spend the money on it. So would I be a retard for buying one (assuming I could find one in stock)?

Well what's the alternative?
  • I can buy a weaker card, but the 7900XT and 4080 didn't get me to bite, so why would I do that now?
  • I don't have much interest in the 9070XT because the leaks suggest it's around a 7900XTX, but with less VRAM.
  • I could hold out longer and wait for a 5080 Ti, but you know that's going to be $1500 MSRP, so the "frames-per-dollar" value won't be any better.
  • I could wait for a 6080, but what if it's even more expensive and just as disappointing relative to the previous generation?
  • I could also go kamikaze and get a 5090 since it's a little better value than the 5080 given the extra VRAM, but then Nvidia is winning by getting me to spend way more on a GPU...but then the 5090 is like 3x my 3080 and I'd be maxing out everything at 165hz which sounds pretty sweet.
There's no good answer here. Those of us who like the higher performance cards but don't want to keep upping our spend are over a barrel. We will be stuck here until a competitor comes along, or the AI bubble crashes and Nvidia has to come back to gamers with more enticing products/prices.

For me, I've got a bunch of unfinished games on my desktop. My goal this year is to work on finishing them out with my current hardware. I'll revisit the hardware side probably in late summer. If at that time we're still looking at $1200 for the 5080 and $2400 for the 5090...ugh... :messenger_downcast_sweat:
The best option is to see how the 9070 XT plays out.

There is a chance….albeit a very small one…that it could apply enough pressure to increase supply of 5080s and/or even drop the drop the price.

Don’t bet on that happening, but it will paint a much clearer picture of where things truly stand.

The 5080 may not be available for a while so you may not have much option but to wait.
 

rm082e

Member
The best option is to see how the 9070 XT plays out.

There is a chance….albeit a very small one…that it could apply enough pressure to increase supply of 5080s and/or even drop the drop the price.

Don’t bet on that happening, but it will paint a much clearer picture of where things truly stand.

The 5080 may not be available for a while so you may not have much option but to wait.

That's exactly what I've been thinking. If AMD is able to bring 4080 performance with 16GB of VRAM for $700-$800 (still seems far fetched to me), we can hope that it puts some downward pressure on most of the 5000 series lineup.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
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According to the report, this is the first time Nvidia employees are unable to purchase GPUs internally. That’s not a good look for Nvidia, as their staff must include some of the most hardcore GPU enthusiasts on the planet. Internal availability for GPUs will not start until “widespread stabilization” is achieved.



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“why we’re screwing over gaming so bad this time around?!?”

Jensen’s reply: “Well, because we can and they will beg us for more.”
 
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