Oscar Buzz: where are the movies?

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Plinko said:
You know what I'd love? If the Oscars actually started to become relevant again.

I'm not saying that popular movies are always the best, but it's almost as if a prerequisite for an Oscar nomination now is the question "Have too many people seen this movie?"
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What?
What was the last movie to win the academy award that didn't break 100 mil?
If anything, too many shit blockbuster movies (which I will not name for the sake of not derailing this thread) have won best film in the past decade or so.
 
Chichikov said:
What?
What was the last movie to win The Academy award that didn't break 100 mil?
If anything, too many shit blockbuster movies (which I will not name for the sake of not derailing this thread) have won best film in the past decade or so.
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That's okay, we know you're referring to RotK anyway. ;P
 
Plinko said:
You know what I'd love? If the Oscars actually started to become relevant again.

I'm not saying that popular movies are always the best, but it's almost as if a prerequisite for an Oscar nomination now is the question "Have too many people seen this movie?"
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Because we all know Oscar wins are dominated by obscure indie films.
 
At this point, I think it's a very real possibility for the Dark Knight to be nominated for Best Picture. Last years Oscars were the lowest rated in history and down 20% from the previous year. While there were likely several factors involved (shrinking television audience and the writer's strike being two obvious) the selection of movies nominated played a large role. Make no mistake about it: the Academy does not like to be seen as out of touch or irrelevant. A movie like the Dark Knight (which received universal praise and delivered in the box office) seems like an obvious choice for a Best Picture nomination.
 
John Dunbar said:
No Country For Old Men if we're speaking US only.

Crash if worldwide.
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Touche.
But the 100 mil. was rather arbitrary, No Country For Old Men came out as #1, will break the 100 mark and was a commercial success.
As for Crash, I thought it did better, color me pleasantly surprised.

Boogie said:
That's okay, we know you're referring to RotK anyway. ;P
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I was actually referring to more than one movie, but it's too late anyway, we're two posts away from John Rhys-Davies gifs.
 
Freest Rolexes said:
I'm really surprised to see only one mention of Wall-E. If ever an animated movie was going to crack the best picture nominations, it would be that one. So absolutely amazing.
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Being an animated film, Wall-E is not eligible for a Best Picture nomination.
 
Scullibundo said:
Just remember people, Munich lost out to Crash. Aviator lost out to Million Dollar Baby. Why bother?
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Substance said:
... and Master and Commander lost to ROTK
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Raging Bull lost to Ordinary People in this is what you got?

Blader5489 said:
Being an animated film, Wall-E is not eligible for a Best Picture nomination.
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Not true.
 
I was baiting scullibundo whatever. and the oscars will just follow the perspective of the superior golden globe nominations but it will likely be 20-23 Jan
 
Blader5489 said:
Seriously? I thought animated films could only be nominated for Best Animated Picture.
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It's not officially the case, but it may as well be. It's pretty much the reason they invented the best animated feature category.
 
Blader5489 said:
Seriously? I thought animated films could only be nominated for Best Animated Picture.
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In 1992 Beauty and the Beast became the first and only animated film to ever be nominated for Best Picture.

It wasn't until 2001 that the Best Animated Feature category was introduced.
 
The committee really needs to make a category for "Most Entertaining Movie" which is separate from "Best Motion Picture"; one does not necessarily connote the other.
 
what about the soloist? Or revolutionary road. Doubt has yet to be released, and as plenty of others have said Milk.
 
no offense, but aside from a couple of movies this year, 2008 really really really stinks compared to 2007. but i guess you can't expect great stuff to be released every year.
 
^ "Oscar buzz" usually means overacted melodramas, and yeah, the more Oscar buzz I hear something has, the less interested I am in it.

Who cares about the Oscars? I mean, really.

If I were going to care about any end of the year awards or aggregate lists, I'd care about the ones that come from critics.
 
crustikid said:
no offense, but aside from a couple of movies this year, 2008 really really really stinks compared to 2007. but i guess you can't expect great stuff to be released every year.
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On the plus side, Diablo Cody is probably not going to win anything this year.
 
Dan said:
^ "Oscar buzz" usually means overacted melodramas, and yeah, the more Oscar buzz I hear something has, the less interested I am in it.
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No Country for Old Men (2007)
Departed, The (2006)
Crash (2004/I)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003)
Chicago (2002)
Beautiful Mind, A (2001)
Gladiator (2000)
American Beauty (1999)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)

How many of those would describe as overacted melodramas?
 
Chichikov said:
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Departed, The (2006)
Crash (2004/I)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003)
Chicago (2002)
Beautiful Mind, A (2001)
Gladiator (2000)
American Beauty (1999)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)

How many of those would describe as overacted melodramas?
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Two.
 
Chichikov said:
20% is not that much.
And the acting was fine in Million Dollar Baby.
It had shitload of problems, but acting was not one them.
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I didn't say there was a lot, that was somebody else. I just calls em like I sees em, chinless.
 
I'm predicting that Milk will take it, personally. Angelina Jolie will probably be nominated for Best Actress for The Changeling, even if it's not that great of a movie based on reviews.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the academy acknowledged W, though that might be a bit of a stretch given the Academy's hatred of comedies.
 
Yeah, the animated category is pretty much a cop out award to make sure they never have an animated film in the best picture category again.

When Wall-E wins this year it will give Pixar a full 50% of all he best animated film winners. Disney will have 5/8 since they get credit for distributing Spirited Away.
 
Chichikov said:
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Departed, The (2006)
Crash (2004/I)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003)
Chicago (2002)
Beautiful Mind, A (2001)
Gladiator (2000)
American Beauty (1999)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)

How many of those would describe as overacted melodramas?
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Oh, 3 or 4, definitely, and none of that accounts for the other four nominees each year.

No Country for Old Men is the only one of those that I'd say was truly worthy of being singled out.

I'm simply not interested in movies that revolve around showcase acting performances that scream out "looking for awards consideration", often with super contrived grey zone morality issues, and that's what garners disgusting "Oscar buzz". Not all the movies that end up making the cut fall into that, but the nature of the Academy leads itself to nominating movies that reward actors with scene-stopping roles. Sean Penn and Mystic River is a good example.
 
I think The Soloist is going to get a big push.

edit: oh what the shit its pushed back to 2009. I would have thought I would have heard that.

double edit: oh what the shit it was pushed back for total bullshit reasons.
 
Chichikov said:
What?
What was the last movie to win The Academy award that didn't break 100 mil?
If anything, too many shit blockbuster movies (which I will not name for the sake of not derailing this thread) have won best film in the past decade or so.
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Crash.
 
Chichikov said:
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Departed, The (2006)
Crash (2004/I)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003)
Chicago (2002)
Beautiful Mind, A (2001)
Gladiator (2000)
American Beauty (1999)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)

How many of those would describe as overacted melodramas?
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My favorite question to ask is "How many of these movies will actually be remembered in ten years?"
 
Aristotlekh said:
It totally deserves best picture from what I've seen this year, but the Academy is so far up its own ass on animated movies that it'll be relegated to that diminutive "oh cute another pixar movie won its cute little animation award" category.

Certainly one of the best animated films ever made though. We're talking up there with fuckin' Bambi and Peter Pan and stuff.
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Exactly. The Feature Length Animated Picture award is good for acknowledging Pixar movies that weren't quite good enough for Best Picture, but it should NEVER make a movie less likely to be nominated for Best Picture overall. The sad thing is that if Wall-E doesn't get nominated, the only way I could have a valid argument is to watch all of the movies that WERE nominated. This usually means watching at least one massively overrated that was cookie-cut just for Oscar buzz.
 
As much as I loved Heath Ledger as The Joker, the Best Supporting Actor Oscar really deserves to go to this guy...

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I don't care that the Academy turns a blind eye to stoner action bromance comedies, James Franco was FUCKING AWESOME.

And Best Original Song to Huey Louis and the News, kplzthx. :D
 
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