RGB'D
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Why stop at a Ps5 Pro, just get a PC and get all the MS, PS and PC games
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Playstation fans air grievances at Sony under crushing Xbox showcase hype
BlackTron
Member
Yeah I use PC but I don't spend all my time wondering why people who bought Playstations didn't buy $1k computers instead
RGB'D
Member
I don't either. That's quite a stretch. Just asked why he would stop at Ps5Pro when having all the games was important... would be better off having a PC. But you do you...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Maybe he doesn't want to wait for most PS games. And also likes the convenience factor.
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Represent(ative) of bad opinions
RGB'D
Member
Very true. But I can also wait for the objectively best version. But can see where that would be a reason for some.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The lack of attempt is what's concerning. It was a mass of games that wont sell 5 million copies.
Concord could flop, but it could very well nestle itself among the top 3 or 4 hero shooters over the next 5+ years.
One company is making smart gambles, the other still thinks it's 2014. People ignoring the obvious strategic blunder is nuts.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
No matter how you slice it, it was an uncharacteristically strong showing. Particularly gameplay footage of Perfect Dark and Fable. But there were a half dozen highlights at least that were very strong, all in one show. It was a solid B+, even taking into account lower expectations due to all the bad press, and years-long delays of games since 2020.
Reminded me of a strong E3, circa 2017 or 2014. Back in the "good 'ol days".
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Someone please listen to this man. Wise words. Kudos for keeping things in perspective!
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squallheart
Member
Watched the conference and don't understand everyone's praise nothing looked appealing to me except expedition. I think that's why I never could get into Xbox their games don't attract me. Don't get me wrong, sony isn't doing any better I'm thinking this is going to be my last sony console and I'm switching full time to pc as I feel sony has lost their way.
Musashipan
Member
MS trampled sony
Now it's just a matter of time for the next Nintendo Direct to humiliate them both
Now it's just a matter of time for the next Nintendo Direct to humiliate them both
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's not being run by Activision anymore. MS is the daddy now. Do you remember how many resources it took to get a COD game out every year? No way MS keeps that pace. Too many resources from too many other studios.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not having a CoD game annually would mean a loss of billion(s) in revenue, they have a lot more reasons to keep the train going as it is instead of the other way around.
BlackTron
Member
He was commenting on PS stepping up the hype train vs Xbox, so the context was trading blows in the console market.
vaibhavpisal
Member
MS never goes for top selling stuff.
Should be clear by now.
They can turn Halo / Gears into massive titles. Those franchises have the goodwill.
Instead they choose to cater to a core, dedicated but small fanbase.
onnextflix5
Member
They have good games coming like venom next year ghost 2 and wolverine in 2026, but I do think they are bit thin on big releases, with half of studios working on gass titles. They are hoping third party will fill in the gaps. This is where Xbox really needs to step up its games and stop day one pc games, and go Xbox only for next 5 years, then they really could make a dent on the PlayStation.
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mayham2199
Member
I would be shocked if MS let COD skip a year. I don't believe for one second they will let that happen. They would hire more contractors or pull teams from other studios in order to avoid that.
digoutyoursoul
Member
The overreaction is amusing. Not even a PlayStation guy and the smoke being blown is funny and sadly all too predictable after what happened pre Hellblade 2.
Put it this way, I wish Microsoft had delivered even half of what Sony has the last few years.
I’m sure they have good stuff coming in the next few months for their fans.
Put it this way, I wish Microsoft had delivered even half of what Sony has the last few years.
I’m sure they have good stuff coming in the next few months for their fans.
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Taur007
Member
yes add halo and gears too
gothmog
Gold Member
They acquired both of those by buying Bungie and eventually buying the Gears rights from Epic.
Topher
Identifies as young
Wasn't the first Fable made prior to Lionhead being acquired by Microsoft?
LeftThumbstick
Member
What am I losing though lol? I can still play Xbox games as always, I just no longer need to buy their console…The mental gymnastics.
Also, with PlayStation players now funding Xbox, It guarantees that they just keep pumping out games that I want to play. I’m no longer trapped behind the exclusivity and have to buy a £450 device.
Meanwhile, you still do
I already have a PC so now I have Xbox games, PlayStation games, all the PC games and a switch for Nintendo.You see, I bought an Xbox because I liked Xbox games. I didn’t buy it for the dashboard or party chat, I bought cause I could only play them there until now.
Funny to see though that the top games for both PS5 & PS4 this month are Xbox first party games
I’m just glad the majority of PS players playing these games are just enjoying good games and not being a brand warrior such as yourselves.Go cry some more.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Depending on how far you go back in time, everything's an acquisition. By that logic, Sony doesn't have any "own" game franchises either. They entered the console market in the 90s. I'm not sure what Nintendo needed to do in order to start a console business, but they sure as hell didn't allocate their bean counters or secretaries to program for the NES.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
MS trampled sony
Now it's just a matter of time for the next Nintendo Direct to humiliate them both
You mean like the first Playstation when toppled Nintendo in the home console market with FFVII?
Yep, the next Mario Kart 8 hyper Deluxe ++ will be so humiliating. That and Metroid 4, next time will be the one.
JackMcGunns
Member
Halo, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Gears of War, Sea of Thieves, Conker, Crimson Skies, Phantom Dust, MechAssault, Lost Oddysey, Jade Empire, Grounded, Psychonauts, Flight Simulator.
Mr Moose
Member
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Whats the point of ps5 pro again?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Has it been announced?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
When Sony announce the Bloodborne remake for q4 2025 all of this pain and upset will be completely forgotten.
fallingdove
Member
Halo - no. Gears of War - no. Conker - no. Psychonauts - no. But there are definitely some IPs on that list that I hadn’t thought about.
Can’t believe I forgot about Lost Odyssey (thank you Xbox — love that game).
fallingdove
Member
I’m not familiar enough with the development of Fable but maybe. That’s why I flagged homegrown as part of the criteria. Microsoft doesn’t have a great track record for nurturment/execution of internal creativity and have often relied on 3rd party acquisition/partnership to make up the difference.
fallingdove
Member
Gears definitely not, Halo is kind of grey area depending on what percentage of ‘Halo’ you see as being a carryover from Mac development.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Who wants to tell him?
JackMcGunns
Member
Ok, we know that Insomniac was acquired by Sony, just listing the franchises that were born under Xbox.
OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
Gamers in the 2010s: We're tired of games being announced 3,4,5 years before they are released!
Gamers in the 2020s: Where are the games Sony???
Gamers in the 2020s: Where are the games Sony???
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
At this point, you sincerely consider Sunset an Xbox franchise? If it were, wouldn't it belong to Microsoft?
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Thats MS approach. They leave franchises with developers. Allow them to grow and become more valuable. Then buy them at high price once they are big.
They did that with Gears also.
Sony would have made both developers their bitches. Thats how Insomniac was purchased for mere 230 million USD.
JackMcGunns
Member
I don't know the details on the licensing, it didn't sell well so I doubt either Insomniac or MS will care anyway, especially now that Insomniac was turned into a Spider-Monkey, they're not going to be using that IP for sure even if it belongs to them, but it was born on Xbox for Xbox.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Ah, the ol' "Microsoft is the good guy" stance.
This is business. Neither company is your friend. Was Insomniac worth more than $230m? If so, tell us more.
JackMcGunns
I don't know who Insomnia is and I didn't realize they were turned into Spider-Monkies either.
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Little Mac
Gold Member
MS doesn’t really have the best track record this gen when it comes to these big titles. I want Fable and Perfect Dark to knock our socks off but after the fucking disaster that was 2023, I’m going to remain overly cautious and keep expectations low. I will say MS put on a great showcase, and conversely, Sony could have done more.
vaibhavpisal
Member
MS doesn’t care for its PR. Instead loves to get into sticky situations/ controversy.Ah, the ol' "Microsoft is the good guy" stance.
This is business. Neither company is your friend. Was Insomniac worth more than $230m? If so, tell us more.
I don't know who Insomnia is and I didn't realize they were turned into Spider-Monkies either.
Doesn’t mean we cannot do critical thinking ourselves.
Syphon Filter
Member
they can do extra content for existing cod.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
You mean like Bloodborne, Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, Death Stranding, or Phantom Blade Zero?
No, Sony didn't need to buy those, despite investing millions in each.
And others like Returnal / Housemarquee became AAA only because of Sony. There is no comparison between MS and Sony in that matter. Sony develops and improves studios, MS doesn't.
JackMcGunns
Member
Lol Conker live & reloading was around since the OG Xbox, but I realize now that it was a Nintendo franchise.