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Playstation fans air grievances at Sony under crushing Xbox showcase hype
Markio128
Gold Member
To be fair, Sony did confirm that they would only show/announce 1st party games once they were closer to release. There is every chance that a few Sony games will be released around the same time as those already announced by MS, such as PD and Fable.
Let’s be honest, it was fucking dumb to announce Wolverine so early.
At least Sony had the foresight to gain some solid 3rd-party deals in the meantime.
Let’s be honest, it was fucking dumb to announce Wolverine so early.
At least Sony had the foresight to gain some solid 3rd-party deals in the meantime.
BlackTron
Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
The end products don't matter. Getting games don't matter.
The point of showcases is for war. And Sony is fucking me over royally right now. I have a gun and it needs ammo
The point of showcases is for war. And Sony is fucking me over royally right now. I have a gun and it needs ammo
rhodesianshepard
Banned
Microsoft just emptied their entire clip for the next 2.5-3 years with that showcase. People act like Microsoft will be putting out banger after banger. Next year, their only current exclusives are Fable and South of Midnight. I hope Clockwork Revolutions makes it, but its really concerning that game wasnt at the show. No way South of Midnight is anything but a niche game. Fable could be great, but I question whether it will actually be fun to play, as it's Playground Games first attempt at an RPG. Gears 6 and Perfect Dark could be as far as 2027, but could make 2026
If you looked at Xbox Showcase last year, they absolutely smoked PlayStation's Showcase. But with Playstation, I don't think you can argue who is having a better 2024 and most likely 2025
If you looked at Xbox Showcase last year, they absolutely smoked PlayStation's Showcase. But with Playstation, I don't think you can argue who is having a better 2024 and most likely 2025
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
good. Compared to that trash state of play by herman, this was a masterpiece.
No idea why Sony studios like nd, sucker punch, bend and bluepoint aren’t ready To show anything 4-5 Years after shipping their last big game. Herman mismanaged the fuck out of these studios. Just resign and go work at a user car dealership where you belong. Took the best most critically acclaimed first party portfolio and ruined them all with gaas, remakes and mismanagement.
No idea why Sony studios like nd, sucker punch, bend and bluepoint aren’t ready To show anything 4-5 Years after shipping their last big game. Herman mismanaged the fuck out of these studios. Just resign and go work at a user car dealership where you belong. Took the best most critically acclaimed first party portfolio and ruined them all with gaas, remakes and mismanagement.
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GHG
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They've stated on multiple occasions they don't want to announce/show games too early anymore. Astrobot just got revealed, with gameplay and it's releasing this year.
Look at the list of the Xbox 1st party games that were just shown, then take a look at when they were first revealed/announced. You might be surprised, some of those games have been shown at over 3 conferences across separate years now. Some of the stuff they just announced isn't even releasing next year.
Is that what you really want?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
KaiserBecks
Member
Because fans enjoy a good show and want to be excited for something new, it's that simple. I have both systems so I don't give a shit if a game is exclusive or not, but I want MS/Sony/Nintendo try to create some buzz. Video games are a hobby, this is part of it.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
ResilientBanana
Member
Aren’t most of these games coming to PlayStation 5? I don’t see a problem with having even more good game to play.
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Topher
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Cis white trash
Facts are facts, sony has been extremely lax and quite disappointing this gen in terms of game output. Their last show was pathetic and did more harm than good in terms of quelling the worries of their fans. Microsoft have been the butt of jokes the whole gen but credit where credit is due and they probably gave us the best game showcase of this gen and came out swinging. I truly hope this gives sony a kick up their ass so they can actually start showing some games outside of their primary focus on gaas.
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Topher
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
reposting this gif from the xbox showcase thread
CherryFalls
Banned
You have to keep in mind the day 1 3rd party gamepass games are also considered exclusive gets/wins for xbox. So games like Cod, Expedition 33, Doom, and Atomfall are wins for xbox too. Astro bot and another remake aren't going to cut it for PS
DenchDeckard
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I think these companies just need to get a good balance of, this is the nice surprise game for this year like Astro Bot and also a roadmap of near future games and even those that are a bit further out. So then you would ideally have a nice constant rotation of news. X game gets announced with a nice target in engine trailer but it might be two years away, then when that game is a year away you get an extended deep dive of footage, plus a new titles announced thats two years out. Then the year the games releasing you get the full hype building in game demo of a level. Y title then goes into the yearly cycle and another new game is announced for two years out. Then just keep that steady clip rotating.
If that makes sense.
You can then also have your surprises landing in between etc.
Hope that makes sense.
Astray
Member
I mean Microsoft still hasn't actually delivered on the games front? All the games you saw yesterday and during their deep dive in early 2024 have to be delivered at quality before we can say they did?
So far we only got Hellblade 2 out of the 4 games slated for 2024, and that one likely won't move units. I think this race has been run and run thoroughly at this point.
GHG
Member
He specifically said first party new IP's.
They will show stuff when it's ready and personally I'd prefer that over enduring multiple years of smoke and mirrors "in-engine"/CG trailers which Sony have been no secret to in the past.
So let's look at what you're asking for here since this is what you're using as a benchmark:
- State of Decay 3 - announced at Xbox games showcase 2020
- Fabe 4 - announced at Xbox games showcase 2020
- Perfect Dark - announced at the game awards 2020
- Indianna Jones - announced 2021 by Bethesda
- South of Midnight - announced at Xbox games showcase 2023
Doom was the most exciting 1st party thing they announced and it's releasing next year, so maybe they are learning. I'd rather see more stuff like that and the Astrobot announcement personally, but that's just me.
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Bojji
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HeWhoWalks
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Ass of Can Whooping
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GHG
Member
I'm starting to think this is all it boils down to for some people.
Fuck being objective, it's all about hype.
GHG
Member
No Gears love?
Was gears revealed before? If it was then add that to the list.
But I think it was a new reveal, so going by that track record at least we can look forward to seeing it again at the Xbox showcase in 2029.
Jigsaah
Member
I would say Sony needs showmanship again, but honestly this showcase from Microsoft had very little in the ways of showmanship. They just showed a fuck ton of games and had the big 3 speak for less than a minute each.
It's good Sony fans are putting their feet to the fire. Hopefully they will listen.
It's good Sony fans are putting their feet to the fire. Hopefully they will listen.
DryvBy
Gold Member
Especially when Sony is getting said games.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
So which one of these crushing showcase games will I get to play first and when?
I remember seeing several 2025 tags and a few with no dates at all.
I remember seeing several 2025 tags and a few with no dates at all.
Portugeezer
Member
I'm glad Xbox bringing the heat, but sadly, I can't see it denting PlayStation's domination over Xbox.
But the Xbox showcase has brought me some faith back into MS.
But the Xbox showcase has brought me some faith back into MS.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Use Concord as your ammo.
bosnianpie
Member
I think it's fair to put some pressure on Sony, hype levels are definitely low these days.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Tried. It blew up in my face
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Showcases, especially of late, don’t impact anyone’s bottom line. It did what it needed to - showed games. Why people lose their minds and run with hyperbole after each is anyone’s guess.
“Screw history! It’s all about hyyyyyyyyyype”! Meanwhile in the real world, this will be remembered as most are, a show. And I mean that towards PlayStation too. I’d rather have game releases than hype.
That said, what Xbox showed was great (Doom/Gears/STALKER are really all I needed). So, I’m just happy that we have new content on the way.
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Topher
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And I'll tell you again that I would rather have a roadmap actually showing what is coming than dang near nothing at all. If that roadmap is two to three years out then that is completely fine. I didn't say Microsoft's previous announcement/release schedule was my "benchmark" at all my man. Games like Fable should have a release date by now.
If a two year shedule from announcement to release, like with Spider-man 2, is what we are talking about then the next game from Sony after Astro is going to be 2026, but we know that is not the case so why didn't Sony show their 2025 games last year? I can't see rhyme or reason to what they are doing.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
"crushing Xbox showcase hype"? They are getting a little carried away.
Punished Miku
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Lol people have such short memories.
State of Play sucked but people giving the MS one an A are delusional. More than half the good stuff had a vague release window or none at all. Perfect Dark didn't even have a year attached and was clearly not even gameplay.
MS did the same thing like 2-3 years ago? Look where that went, half the stuff still isn't out and most of the stuff that did come out ended up sucking. Hopefully this time is different but not gonna believe that shit till I see it.
State of Play sucked but people giving the MS one an A are delusional. More than half the good stuff had a vague release window or none at all. Perfect Dark didn't even have a year attached and was clearly not even gameplay.
MS did the same thing like 2-3 years ago? Look where that went, half the stuff still isn't out and most of the stuff that did come out ended up sucking. Hopefully this time is different but not gonna believe that shit till I see it.
Zheph
Member
It would look good when you announce new hardware, just speculation
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Wait, Perfect Dark didn’t look like gameplay to you?
GHG
Member
Personally my feeling is that over the last few years Sony have put too many resources towards GAAS projects (to the detriment of the kind of stuff they usually do) and many of those have ended up in development hell (or been outright cancelled in the case of factions). I'd like to be proven wrong, but there is the potential issue where they don't have much in the way of games that I'd actually be interested in to show right now, which is it's own issue.
What I don't want them to do however is panic and start announcing stuff that is 5/6/7 years out leading to perpetual "in engine" trailers for those games at every subsequent annual showcase. I have absolutely no interest in that, and for people who do like that sort of thing then there's a platform (or "ecosystem" as it is now) that will perfectly cater to their needs.
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The_Observer
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Both of them suck, MS just had a high point now after many fails.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
If only a certain company would give me the ammo to slap these rats back to irrelevency
It looked like gameplay in the same way the original KZ2 reveal looked like gameplay. Would bet my house the final version is a shell of that.
