Doesnt Hoppip usually only appear in the morning or day? Thats what I remember.
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Pokémon Gold & Pokemon Silver Virtual Console |OT| The Nostalgia Is Crystal Clear
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Doesnt Hoppip usually only appear in the morning or day? Thats what I remember.
AlexFlame116
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Would a Pidgey be a good temp flying Pokémon or should I go with Hoothoot?
Saucestin_Roast
Member
I was really really down on Sun/Moon to the point where I didn't want to give GameFreak any more money... but I caved and bought Silver since it's my favourite gen and I can bring them into whatever Gen 8 happens to be on Switch hopefully.
The big thing I'm taking away is how much I miss the different sprites that each game used to have. Some of the sprites in these games have so much more personality. I mean, look at this guy:
I've never been a huge Slowpoke fan but that sprite made me fall in love and use him in this playthrough.
I would hope that GF would stop focusing on terrible and poorly implemented "Innovations" like pokepelago, pokefinder or ride pokemon and just put more effort into making the pokemon have different stances or animations. I know it's a lot of work but now that they don't have to re-draw the sprites since they have such detailed models it would go a long way to breathing life back into these games.
I too wish they'd focus more on more unique animations for pokemon and especially the animations during battle. I'd happily give up stuff like pokepelago for it. I mostly just try that stuff out once and move on when I realize it isn't any fun. Like the crap pokemon snap wannabe minigame in sun and moon? Completely forgettable. Why waste resources?
Pidgey and its line will be stronger with flying attacks, but Hoothoot and Noctowl have more fun utility moves like Hypnosis. If you stick with Noctowl to the end it gets dreameater too which is awesome, but you said temp so Pidgey is probably better for now.
Edit: and Spearow is even better, highest attack power
dyreschlock
Member
Curious about something... Shouldn't the Pokemon cloning glitch make an exact copy of the Pokemon you're trying to clone?
I just got the Headbutt TM. I stuffed it on my Quilava and cloned it, so I would still have another one after I used it. The resulting cloned Quilava still has the same ID, but the stats are a little different. The new one has +1 HP and +1 Special Attack. Probably some other smaller changes, too.
Anyone know why this is the case?
I just got the Headbutt TM. I stuffed it on my Quilava and cloned it, so I would still have another one after I used it. The resulting cloned Quilava still has the same ID, but the stats are a little different. The new one has +1 HP and +1 Special Attack. Probably some other smaller changes, too.
Anyone know why this is the case?
Munch Poke
Member
Ehhh, why not both?
Pelago has been a godsend this gen when you want to EV train a poke. And that berry garden plus treasure hunt for stones? It's an amazing addition.
EVs are applied in the PC, so your original Quilava should get the same stats if you deposit and withdraw it.
currently at lake of rage. team is quilava, croconaw, flaaffy, miltank, alakazam and golem between 25 and 27. the fact that the worst dudes on my team currently are the starters is entirely hilarious to me.
miltank is fucking crazy - fast, tough, hits hard enough, learns shadow ball to dick over psychics and ghosts, and heals with milk drink. zam is obviously great but my favorite thing about this run is the appreciation i'm developing for my silly pink cow.
miltank is fucking crazy - fast, tough, hits hard enough, learns shadow ball to dick over psychics and ghosts, and heals with milk drink. zam is obviously great but my favorite thing about this run is the appreciation i'm developing for my silly pink cow.
So I did something really crazy: I traded a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver!
Yeah you may be thinking: "wtf, how did you have a Ho-Oh in gen 1?!"
I'll explain by copy + pasting my Smogon post
I have tried my mad scientist experiment: I managed to trade a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver! Here's some photo proof:
So the jist of what I did was: I used 8f to catch a Missingno. with the same index number as Ho-Oh in GSC. Then I used 8f to change the Missingno.'s typing to Fire / Flying (otherwise Pokemon Silver would reject it). I even used 8f to give it the glitch move equivalent of Sacred Fire (TM21) and to make it shiny!
It worked perfectly. I tried to do the same with Lugia, but since Lugia's Missingno. constantly changes types, Silver rejected it. Still, I got Ho-Oh over, and I taught my old 18 year old Porygon and Scyther from Yellow (another long story, the Yellow on my VC is my original save from when I was a child) Curse via 8f as well!
So yeah, you can break the hell out of gen 2 with the time capsule lol. Funnily enough, my Ho-Oh was holding a Carbos, likely based off of Missingno.s catch rate.
Here's the beauty right here!
Yeah you may be thinking: "wtf, how did you have a Ho-Oh in gen 1?!"
I'll explain by copy + pasting my Smogon post
I have tried my mad scientist experiment: I managed to trade a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver! Here's some photo proof:
So the jist of what I did was: I used 8f to catch a Missingno. with the same index number as Ho-Oh in GSC. Then I used 8f to change the Missingno.'s typing to Fire / Flying (otherwise Pokemon Silver would reject it). I even used 8f to give it the glitch move equivalent of Sacred Fire (TM21) and to make it shiny!
It worked perfectly. I tried to do the same with Lugia, but since Lugia's Missingno. constantly changes types, Silver rejected it. Still, I got Ho-Oh over, and I taught my old 18 year old Porygon and Scyther from Yellow (another long story, the Yellow on my VC is my original save from when I was a child) Curse via 8f as well!
So yeah, you can break the hell out of gen 2 with the time capsule lol. Funnily enough, my Ho-Oh was holding a Carbos, likely based off of Missingno.s catch rate.
Here's the beauty right here!
AlexFlame116
Member
Thanks! Is Spearow in Gold or will I have to somehow trade with my Silver version?
I really want a shiny Ho-Oh. Is this method kind of simple enough or is it extremely complex for a guy like me who only did things as far as the Mew glitch in Yellow and the starter trio in this game? Will it even be possible to transfer it to US/UM?So I did something really crazy: I traded a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver!
Yeah you may be thinking: "wtf, how did you have a Ho-Oh in gen 1?!"
I'll explain by copy + pasting my Smogon post
I have tried my mad scientist experiment: I managed to trade a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver! Here's some photo proof:
So the jist of what I did was: I used 8f to catch a Missingno. with the same index number as Ho-Oh in GSC. Then I used 8f to change the Missingno.'s typing to Fire / Flying (otherwise Pokemon Silver would reject it). I even used 8f to give it the glitch move equivalent of Sacred Fire (TM21) and to make it shiny!
It worked perfectly. I tried to do the same with Lugia, but since Lugia's Missingno. constantly changes types, Silver rejected it. Still, I got Ho-Oh over, and I taught my old 18 year old Porygon and Scyther from Yellow (another long story, the Yellow on my VC is my original save from when I was a child) Curse via 8f as well!
So yeah, you can break the hell out of gen 2 with the time capsule lol. Funnily enough, my Ho-Oh was holding a Carbos, likely based off of Missingno.s catch rate.
Here's the beauty right here!
Wow at that Trainer OT name!
Honestly, explaining the whole process in detail might take a while. 8f is a crazy glitch item that allows you to execute arbitrary code via the use of items and very specific party of Pokemon (including a Pidgey with a specific HP stat). It's a lot more complicated than the Mew glitch stuff tbh...
But since you want that shiny Ho-Oh, I'll find some time to explain it later!
EDIT: Oh since you have Yellow version, you'd have to get the glitch item Ws m. I heard that's a lot riskier and can corrupt save files compared to RB's 8f however...
Its in both versions, you can get it as early as route 46 which is right above the first route in the game (only during morning or day though).
Or headbutt almost any tree in the game and it will fall out, at night it will even be asleep if my childhood memories are right lol
chaobreaker
Member
Gold and Silver are up there for the worst distribution of Pokemon in the series. Distribution in the sense that you're going to encounter the same handful of Pokemon route after route while all the cool new Pokemon are hiding behind dumb mechanics like swarms and headbutt trees, require items you can only get at late game, and straight up being unavailable until you reached Kanto. Its awful.
This was mostly fixed in Crystal but Mareep is unavailable in that game so it goes straight to the trash.
This was mostly fixed in Crystal but Mareep is unavailable in that game so it goes straight to the trash.
d34thfrom4bov3
Member
I forgot just how much I loved Gen 2 pokemon. I'm trying to figure out a decent team but I feel like every pokemon I'd like is rather far off. Is there any decent way to find a Teddiursa or Sneasel early on?
On the way to Ice Path now and here is the crew
Level 35 Icepunch/Strength/Surf/Bite
Level 35 Sunny Day/T.punch/F.Punch/Smog
Level 35 All three punches/Psybeam
Level 33 Return/rest is filler atm.
The rest are filler/HM users. Been a breeze so far. Kadabra/Magmar make such short work of things and now with Return Stantler is becoming a wrecking ball.
The rest are filler/HM users. Been a breeze so far. Kadabra/Magmar make such short work of things and now with Return Stantler is becoming a wrecking ball.
I knew it. awful but I'll do it.
AlexFlame116
Member
That would be awesome thanks! I'd love to have a shiny Ho-Oh in my Gold! But it does sound like a challenge haha!
I do have Yellow but I have been planning on buying either Red or Blue just for kicks.
Oh you mean that little patch of green behind the building that should technically lead to Blackthorn City but is blocked by ledges? I always forget about that place!
Link_enfant
Member
Thanks! I'm still not sure which nature I'll choose but of course, I won't transfer it before it has the right amount of EXP
The Shadow Knight
Member
So I did something really crazy: I traded a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver!
*snip*
Here's the beauty right here!
Man, this is way cooler than what I did.
I made a lua script for an emulator that reset for a shiny Ho-oh for me and then injected the save.
Robin64
Member
Afraid not.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Kanto and RED done!
Final team:
Ampharos lvl 52
Lugia lvl 46
Alakazam lvl 46
Feraligatr lvl 49
Final time: 10:09
I had a good time with this. I'm in for another round if we get Crystal. There's a couple other Pokemon I would like to try to make a team around.
Final team:
Ampharos lvl 52
Lugia lvl 46
Alakazam lvl 46
Feraligatr lvl 49
Final time: 10:09
I had a good time with this. I'm in for another round if we get Crystal. There's a couple other Pokemon I would like to try to make a team around.
SaviourMK2
Member
How does the trading work in Gold/Silver?
Can I trade from my Blue version on the same system, or am i expected to have another 3DS?
Can I trade from my Blue version on the same system, or am i expected to have another 3DS?
Robin64
Member
You need to have another 3DS. A shame they didn't give some kind of Virtual Console Local Bank thing.
SaviourMK2
Member
God damnit. I imagine transferring save files to another 3ds is too much of a hassle or impossible?
Robin64
Member
Without homebrew, yeah.
Bobo Dakes
Member
Jesus Christ! It took me 10 hours just to beat Morty.
renegade_dewitt
Member
Has Pokemon Bank been updated yet to support the VC releases of GS?
The Shadow Knight
Member
I did go through everything at a brisk pace, especially Kanto. But I could easily have gone much faster, my battle animations were on the entire time.
It's possible to go way faster still too, the current world record for GS is 3:18:34.
Robin64
Member
Not yet. Probably won't until near Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are out.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Nice boxes anyway.
Nice boxes anyway.
The boxes are really beautiful, but...
The Italian versions misspelled Johto. 😩
Conor_Fool
Banned
How are people getting Alakazam and other Pokemon you need to trade to get?
I have two 3ds but I imagine I would need to buy two copies of the game just to get an Alakazam? Would be a shame
I have two 3ds but I imagine I would need to buy two copies of the game just to get an Alakazam? Would be a shame
Shadow Broker
Banned
Damn it.. screw Monster Hunter Stories. I'll pick this up tomorrow when I go out. Is there a way to evolve trade Pokémon without actually trading them?
Trading with other people online?
Conor_Fool
Banned
Oh shit... this isn't local multiplayer only? So I can likely find a kind GAFer to help me out when the time comes?
I was under the impression that it was local only; checked the virtual manual to be sure, and it didn't really specify either way. I have traded locally with my roommate, though, and just based on the interface it seemed like it was local only.
If anyone has any info otherwise, though, I'm all ears.
If anyone has any info otherwise, though, I'm all ears.
Conor_Fool
Banned
Damn it
Anyone know of any glitches I can exploit to evolve my pokemon then?
Anyone know of any glitches I can exploit to evolve my pokemon then?
Hoothoot is the better Pokémon as they have broader move set than the Pidgey line.
I was really really down on Sun/Moon to the point where I didn't want to give GameFreak any more money... but I caved and bought Silver since it's my favourite gen and I can bring them into whatever Gen 8 happens to be on Switch hopefully.
The big thing I'm taking away is how much I miss the different sprites that each game used to have. Some of the sprites in these games have so much more personality. I mean, look at this guy:
I've never been a huge Slowpoke fan but that sprite made me fall in love and use him in this playthrough.
I would hope that GF would stop focusing on terrible and poorly implemented "Innovations" like pokepelago, pokefinder or ride pokemon and just put more effort into making the pokemon have different stances or animations. I know it's a lot of work but now that they don't have to re-draw the sprites since they have such detailed models it would go a long way to breathing life back into these games.
Have you ever used Pokémon Refresh? The Pokémon animation there give them personality.
So I did something really crazy: I traded a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver!
Yeah you may be thinking: "wtf, how did you have a Ho-Oh in gen 1?!"
I'll explain by copy + pasting my Smogon post
I have tried my mad scientist experiment: I managed to trade a Ho-Oh from Pokemon Blue to Silver! Here's some photo proof:
So the jist of what I did was: I used 8f to catch a Missingno. with the same index number as Ho-Oh in GSC. Then I used 8f to change the Missingno.'s typing to Fire / Flying (otherwise Pokemon Silver would reject it). I even used 8f to give it the glitch move equivalent of Sacred Fire (TM21) and to make it shiny!
It worked perfectly. I tried to do the same with Lugia, but since Lugia's Missingno. constantly changes types, Silver rejected it. Still, I got Ho-Oh over, and I taught my old 18 year old Porygon and Scyther from Yellow (another long story, the Yellow on my VC is my original save from when I was a child) Curse via 8f as well!
So yeah, you can break the hell out of gen 2 with the time capsule lol. Funnily enough, my Ho-Oh was holding a Carbos, likely based off of Missingno.s catch rate.
Here's the beauty right here!
Interesting, I guess that's why they made transfer one way rather.
Ha ha, I see that you're reaching your breaking point.
Nope.
It's local multiplayer only.
AlexFlame116
Member
I forgot just how hard it is to get a shiny in the older games.
I'm going to go crazy.
I'm going to go crazy.
chaobreaker
Member
I just realized something:
If it's super easy to clone Pokemon in this game, then you could also clone the items they hold too 😈
If it's super easy to clone Pokemon in this game, then you could also clone the items they hold too 😈
AlexFlame116
Member
The Shadow Knight
Member
I ran a couple of emulators with a script to automatically find shinies a while back and having them go on a streak of 15k encounters before finding a shiny was not a rare occurrence.
Robin64
Member
The dogs ain't no problem when you're rocking a stack of Master Balls.
Going back to it, gen 2 evolutionary lines are kind of weak. I forgot how many were fixed in later generations.
Dion Blaster
Member
Miltank is fun as hell to use, not sure why I've never tried it before. Defense curl + rollout = unstoppable
megarockexe
Member
The slots in Goldenrod are just the worst. I think it may just be better to buy the coins for the prizes you want. Sure, I got jackpot 3 times, but it's not enough for anything worthwhile.
Nocturnowl
Member
So I get sent to sleep for 5 turns, then 3 turns (fortunately all gastly can do to Hoothoot here is spite and hypnosis).
Then zubat comes out, immediately hits supersonic, makes me flinch 4 turns straight with bite and THEN I finally punch myself into fainting....
This may actually be my peak RNG bullshit in a Pokemon game, ya know outside battle towers and their in built boolsheeet.
It's not even a fight you can win rival but it's the principle!
Then zubat comes out, immediately hits supersonic, makes me flinch 4 turns straight with bite and THEN I finally punch myself into fainting....
This may actually be my peak RNG bullshit in a Pokemon game, ya know outside battle towers and their in built boolsheeet.
It's not even a fight you can win rival but it's the principle!