cartoon_soldier
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Ras also has Romney up by 2 now
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The Librarian
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UH OH
DragonSworne
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Not looking good for Romney if Ras only has him up by 2.
The best part of the show is that they actually discuss a subject for more than 5 min.
jamesinclair
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The gas price effect begins
Black Republican
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It says +1 Romney. You sure it was previously a 5 point difference?
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Wait, is the +1 supposed to be how much they are currently leading, not how much it changed since the last poll?
cartoon_soldier
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It's a +4 swing, but also we have to see what happens tomorrow.
Joe Shlabotnik
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It was +4 Obama on Tuesday, +1 Romney on Thursday. That said, their rolling average is still +2 Obama.
Half and half
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Holy shit. Niiiiice.
I've been doing small weekly donations. Nothing major, but it feels good to chip in a little.
It's a snap shot before and after debate poll (1 day sample for each), they don't reveal internals and the only thing they say about their methodology is that it's based on random digit dialing. They haven't done any presidential election polling so the poll isn't very useful in terms of establishing trend. Still, it's likely Romney has gained some ground.
PhoenixDark
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Six point swing? No big deal. Debates rarely move the needle!
Btw Obama's camp nixed the initial plans of attacking Romney as a flip flopper because it could convince some voters that he was actually a moderate, and might change back to one in the White House; instead they painted him as a far right idealogue. Now Romney has flipped the script and team Obama is going back to the flip flop plan. I'm not sure that will work if Romney turns in another debate performance like last time. Obama will improve but he'll still be the slow, methodical debater who is almost incapable of landing major blows.
jamesinclair
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cartoon_soldier
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American media calling out Romney lies is a pipe dream
That's because Romney flat out lies. In other countries when things occur, they are noted by the press. In this country, when things occur, the press tries to find an example of someone else maybe doing something similar and simply places the two items side by side. And goddamn is JamesSinclair's gas thing annoying.
Black Republican
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British media aint too fond of him either (way before the Olympic gaffs)
Let's hope America does the right thing though they did vote for G Dubya TWICE
Doc Holliday
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This will always amaze me. First time ok I get it gore sucked, but damn twice. They give Obama shit for not fixing the economy fast enough but bush got a pass on:
Iraq
9/11. Yea it happened on his watch. You can't blame Obama for the economy and not blame bush for 9/11. You can't have it both ways.
Afghanistan
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Obsessed with 4chan
Kerry was a shitty candidate and it was still pretty close.
But yeah, still. I can't believe it either.
But yeah, still. I can't believe it either.
teruterubozu
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Stocks soared after Bush was re-elected too. We were too busy buying homes.
Half and half
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...O-Reports-Deficit-is-down-another-200-Million
A lot more details at the link.
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CBO link
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43656
A lot more details at the link.
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CBO link
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43656
adamsappel
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Now you're going too far in the other direction. Just try and keep an even keel, okay?
Bush barely won both elections, but neither Gore nor Kerry were very exciting candidates and the republicans had a very strong ground game in 2004 in addition to having the advantage of incumbency. Obama is a very likable candidate, has an impeccable ground game, and has a lot more electoral college wiggle room to work with than Bush did.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...inia_n_1944043.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
They sure do hate America
They sure do hate America
Canis lupus
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Why was there a 2nd thread?
The Librarian
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Good lord. Last time I checked, it was at 49 PPD. How are you doing this?
"Total Posts: 7,897 (53.01 posts per day)"
The Great Thread Title War of 2012
Basileus777
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Amir0x messed up the title and went against the wishes of the community. It was later edited by a Mod after minutes of protest and struggle.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...2_vs_election_2004_eight_years_ago_today.html
Bush and Obama with identical lead at this point
Bush and Obama with identical lead at this point
Yep. The first debate had already occurred and the incumbent was "crushed" by the challenger, which lead to a temporary poll bump that ultimately meant nothing.
Gee, sure doesn't sound like anything going on now.
If anything, we might see Obama's victory margin resemble Bush's.
I agree about not trusting Florida, and I'd add Colorado to the pure toss-up category.
And Ohio as a firewall should hold out pretty well; they really don't like Romney there.
So with Iowa or Nevada, we're good.
I wonder if Obama will make a "I now have political capital, and I intend to spend it!" statement like Bush's, haha..
I agree about not trusting Florida, and I'd add Colorado to the pure toss-up category.
And Ohio as a firewall should hold out pretty well; they really don't like Romney there.
So with Iowa or Nevada, we're good.
I wonder if Obama will make a "I now have political capital, and I intend to spend it!" statement like Bush's, haha..
Canis lupus
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Yup. The moment OH, IA, and WI is called, then we'll know who's going to win.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Assumes that the Bush Tax Cuts end? In other words, no chance in hell that the deficit is going to get cut that much...
Plus, I laugh at the title war here. I still don't understand why anyone cares about the damn subtitle of the thread. Funny that once again, Amir0x's posts are getting edited.
PantherLotus
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what is with the bitching about new threads and thread titles? we had a fine system going back years and without fail, the last few threads are started by me-first types blowing their loads because they want to be the one to post the thread with the most ridiculous title. thank god we have decent mods around here.
also, subscribed.
also, subscribed.
For real?
You've successfully called every election I can think of since 2006 so I hope you are just living up to your tag here.
Remember Incognito's last teasing about the Hannity video.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
LOL, but agreed.
I would rather someone just make a damn new thread and not worry about who gets the "glory" of thread OP
btw, it's pretty cool when you have stalkers from other message boards (who probably post here) call you out on that other message board. They drop your GAF name in threads, waiting for you to fess up, then when you confront them about who they are, you get called a bitch and given some vague ban threat.
Class act, whoever you are. I have a feeling you aren't just a lurker.
Class act, whoever you are. I have a feeling you aren't just a lurker.
Colorado is one of the few I think is a pure toss-up, but I think Obama will squeak out a win there.
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