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[Tamanon]

"Pick yourself up by the bootstraps, even if you don't have boots" good line.

 

[Keylime]

MSNBC deciding that Obama's speech is not good enough to be played

 

[maximum360]

One thing I notice though. Obama's is definitely more forceful and seems more confident on the stump than he was before.

 

[PantherLotus]

did i mention i freaking LOVE Hottie McPreggers? I want to tickle that popped out belly button. Am I weird?

 

[lexdysia]

The gray hair line seemed like a stretch and a clear reaction to Palin's appointment though.

 

[UltimaKilo]

!!! time to bring back the fainting women. :lol



Or the sign of a crappy political system, neither of which either side of the aisle has any motivation to change (or right to bitch about). This is common for all candidates and is a non issue. Nobody in their right mind would accuse their opponent of this, regardless of truth, because they too have to do the same thing. Prevention of hypocrisy, if you will.

Surely you don't want to discuss how much time McCain has spent campaigning for elections, reelections, and presidential runs?

Which is why I think that this 2 party system is flawed. There needs to be more diversity and voices in the political system.

Yes McCain has spent a lot of time campaigning, but he has spent less of his career campaigning. I'd say McCain probably 20% of his career while Obama 65%. But yeah, it's still BS.

 

[Keylime]

did i mention i freaking LOVE Hottie McPreggers? Am I weird?

Nah dude it's all goo-

I want to tickle that popped out belly button.

...oh :lol

 

[Tamanon]

The gray hair line seemed like a stretch and a clear reaction to Palin's appointment though.

The one about him getting gray on the trail? That's been in his stump for months!

 

[maximum360]

I think if a person collapses at a McCain rally they're staying down.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[lexdysia]

The one about him getting gray on the trail? That's been in his stump for months!

oh, never mind. I haven't watched too many rally speeches.

 

[UltimaKilo]

MSNBC deciding that Obama's speech is not good enough to be played

CNN man!

 

[Jak140]

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

The economy is on an upswing Obama avoiding recession with 3% growth, which is very healthy. But he will NEVER look into that fact.

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

Uhh, yeah, this is due to the fact that the dollar tanked so it was cheaper for other countries to buy our exports. Not the best sign of a healthy economy. In fact, most economists expect this trend to reverse soon, since foreign markets are on the downswing now too.

 

[Shiggie]

did i mention i freaking LOVE Hottie McPreggers? I want to tickle that popped out belly button. Am I weird?

does it really 'POP' out?

 

[Deku]

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

The economy is on an upswing Obama avoiding recession with 3% growth, which is very healthy. But he will NEVER look into that fact.

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

Most Americans don't own factories or companies that own factories that is marginally benefiting from the weak dollar.

One positive economic indicator does not a recovery make.

 

[Keylime]

CNN man!

Much thanks.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Did he just make it seem that Military men and women don't have access to school? Even their families have access to schooling after that bill pushed by Bush. However the other part of that is a great idea: if you serve the government, they will pay for your school.

 

[maximum360]

Palin has an irritating "screechy-type" voice as well. I winced both times I've heard her speak.

 

[Formless]

SCIENCE, FUCK YEAH!

 

[PantherLotus]

does it really 'POP' out?

I've always heard it compared to a turkey thermometer. That's how you know they're done.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

The economy is on an upswing Obama avoiding recession with 3% growth, which is very healthy. But he will NEVER look into that fact.

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Exports-Spur-US-Economy-Recovery.aspx?menuid=724

YEAH! America is on the rebound now! Thanks to the weak dollar, exporting is making the economy all better now!

The Bureau of Labor Statistics released its monthly summary of job data for July 2008.

Among the most notable items in the report:

Unemployment rose from 5.5% in June to 5.7% in July.
There were 51,000 fewer jobs in July. Total job loss for 2008 so far is 463,000. That is an average of 66,000 jobs lost per month.
The most notable losses were in construction, manufacturing and employment services. The drop for employment services indicates far fewer companies are using temporary help.
The report also mentioned that teenagers and young adults who usually take on part-time jobs during the summer have had challenges in finding a job this year.

 

[Tamanon]

Did he just make it seem that Military men and women don't have access to school? Even their families have access to schooling after that bill pushed by Bush. However the other part of that is a great idea: if you serve the government, they will pay for your school.

wat? The bill was pushed by Webb and they had to make sure and get a veto-proof majority because Bush had threatened to veto it, because it might hurt retention.

 

[TDG]

I assume you were all watching Obama's rally in Dublin. I really wanted to go, I live like 15 minutes away from the rally, but I had a prior engagement. Oh well, I'll go see him the next time he comes to Westerville, or when he has a big downtown rally in October.

I still remember going to Kerry's last rally in Columbus...

 

[Door2Dawn]

In fact, George Bush and John McCain tried to take credit for it,when they opposed it.

 

[Slurpy]

http://www.denverpost.com/editorials/ci_10338061

 

[Jak140]

I love how UltimaKilo pretends to be some well-informed unbiased moderate by making accusations that consistently turn out to be false or misinformed.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I love how UltimaKilo pretends to be some well-informed unbiased moderate by making accusations that consistently turn out to be false or misinformed.

What's sadder is that he's a Dolphin's fan.

 

[Shiggie]

I've always heard it compared to a turkey thermometer. That's how you know they're done.

:O!

 

[Gaborn]

What's sadder is that he's a Dolphin's fan.

It could be worse. I'm a die-hard Lions fan (GO KITNA!!!!!!)

 

[UltimaKilo]

wat? The bill was pushed by Webb and they had to make sure and get a veto-proof majority because Bush had threatened to veto it, because it might hurt retention.

You are correct, but the President did endorse it early on. I mistook it with the President's signing of the Hubbard Act this month.

 

[Door2Dawn]

nm

 

[Deku]

What's sadder is that he's a Dolphin's fan.

 

[theviolenthero]

You are correct, butthe President did endorse it early on. I mistook it with the President's signing of the Hubbard Act this month.

That's not true,sorry.

 

[UltimaKilo]

That's not true,sorry.

Well alright, educate me. I couldn't find anything on Bush opposing it only about him talking about it during his state of the union address.

 

[lexdysia]

Well alright, educate me. I couldn't find anything on Bush opposing it only about him talking about it during his state of the union address.

That explains it.

 

[theviolenthero]

Well alright, educate me. I couldn't find anything on Bush opposing it only about him talking about it during his state of the union address.

Basically, Bush put forth his own bill that was cheaper than Webb's.

 

[typhonsentra]

"Pick yourself up by the bootstraps, even if you don't have boots" good line.

He used it during his acceptance speech but I agree, it's one of his most memorable lines to date.

 

[Propagandhim]

From Sean Hannity's website:

Decision to pick Gov Sarah Palin:

83% - Brilliant
9% - Not sure yet
3% - Don't like her
6% - I wanted someone else



Brilliant.


Honorable mention goes to: Hannidate.com: The place where people of like conservative minds can come together to meet(tm).

 

[Deku]

From Sean Hannity's website:

Decision to pick Gov Sarah Plain:

83% - Brilliant
9% - Not sure yet
3% - Don't like her
6% - I wanted someone else



Brilliant.

I doubt 83% of Republcans even approve of the pick, seems like a kool-aid drinking Republications are mugging up the tally.

 

[Keylime]

From Sean Hannity's website:

Asses are used for:

83% - Pulling information out of
9% - Not sure yet
3% - Pooping
6% - Republicans rule

Fixed

 

[UltimaKilo]

Basically, Bush put forth his own bill that was cheaper than Webb's.

Some Department of Defense officials and President Bush had argued that the measures would hurt servicemember retention in a time when retention is critical for the military. A Government Accountability Office study that had been cited by opponents states that retention will drop by 16%, while proponents counter that the same study predicts recruitment will be up by 16% due to the new incentives this bill would create. Senator Webb also pointed out that currently, "recent studies show that 70% of all enlisted members get out at or before their initial enlistment."

While President Bush had initially threatened to veto the bill, in early June of 2008 the White House signaled he might be willing to sign it along with the war funding bill. He wanted to see transferability between spouses and dependents added onto the new G.I. Bill, making it more valuable to career military personal that would like to pay for their spouse or child's education.[1] On June 19, 2008 this provision was added to the war funding bill and President Bush indicated he would sign such a bill.

There.

 

[NullPointer]

6% - I wanted someone else

There is no way, no how, that this is anywhere even close to the truth.

 

[Tamanon]

There.

There was also opposition in the months before, because he wanted the benefits to apply to those who served longer. This wasn't something that just appeared, Webb has been trying to get it passed forever, Bush only signed on at the very end.:lol

 

[UltimaKilo]

McCain special on CNN

 

[lexdysia]

Now we know why MSNBC stopped covering Obama...

Women Body-Builders....

 

[UltimaKilo]

I love the swing music during the McCain special! :lol

 

[Krowley]

So, Krowley and other Republicans, I would really like your take on Palin personally admitting

That she didn't know what a VP did less than a month ago

Has admitted to no knowledge of the Iraq war

On the VP thing, if you read it in context, it was clearly the standard stock answer that potential VP's give when they're trying to look uninterested in the job. She's saying "I'm not so interested in a job where I'm not going to be doing anything, I'm perfectly happy up here in Alaska, staying Busy. " she's joking around about the VP slot, whcih historicly is only a stepping stone. Dick Cheyney is obviously a different situation, but McCain is not going to give any VP that kind of influence. The fact that so many in this thread is linking to that quote out of context is pretty misleading, although I'm sure most of them are doing it accidentaly.

The Iraq quote I've seen strikes me more as if she's trying to avoid taking a hard stance, and therefore avoiding specifics. She probably doesn't know a whole lot about the Iraq war, or foreign policy, but I Imagine she probably has at least a laymans understanding. The fact that she's so conversant on energy policy tells me that she's not intellectualy incurious enough to be clueless about the biggest news story of the last 8 years. Based on the cnbc interview I listened to a little while ago, that doesn't seem likley at all. She's not the type to be quite that ignorant.

 

[Shiggie]

POW!

 

[Keylime]

On the VP thing, if you read it in context, it was clearly the standard stock answer that potential VP's give when they're trying to look uninterested in the job. She's saying "I'm not so interested in a job where I'm not going to be doing anything, I'm perfectly happy up here in Alaska, staying Busy. " she's joking around about the VP slot, whcih historicly is only a stepping stone. Dick Cheyney is obviously a different situation, but McCain is not going to give any VP that kind of influence. The fact that so many in this thread is linking to that quote out of context is pretty misleading, although I'm sure most of them are doing it accidentaly.

The Iraq quote I've seen strikes me more as if she's trying to avoid taking a hard stance, and therefore avoiding specifics. She probably doesn't know a whole lot about the Iraq war, or foreign policy, but I Imagine she probably has at least a laymans understanding. The fact that she's so conversant on energy policy tells me that she's not intellectualy incurious enough to be clueless about the biggest news story of the last 8 years. Based on the cnbc interview I listened to a little while ago, that doesn't seem likley at all. She's not the type to be quite that ignorant.

...but shouldn't our world leaders be more informed on the issues than me and you? Isn't that just a basic requisite of the job in question?

 

[TheKingsCrown]

On the VP thing, if you read it in context, it was clearly the standard stock answer that potential VP's give when they're trying to look uninterested in the job. She's saying "I'm not so interested in a job where I'm not going to be doing anything, I'm perfectly happy up here in Alaska, staying Busy. " she's joking around about the VP slot, whcih historicly is only a stepping stone. Dick Cheyney is obviously a different situation, but McCain is not going to give any VP that kind of influence. The fact that so many in this thread is linking to that quote out of context is pretty misleading, although I'm sure most of them are doing it accidentaly.

The Iraq quote I've seen strikes me more as if she's trying to avoid taking a hard stance, and therefore avoiding specifics. She probably doesn't know a whole lot about the Iraq war, or foreign policy, but I Imagine she probably has at least a laymans understanding. The fact that she's so conversant on energy policy tells me that she's not intellectualy incurious enough to be clueless about the biggest news story of the last 8 years. Based on the cnbc interview I listened to a little while ago, that doesn't seem likley at all. She's not the type to be quite that ignorant.

There is nothing misleading about that quote. She stated flatly that she doesn't know what the VP does. Stop trying to spin. THanks. Bye.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Wow, how old are those guys that were at the academy with McCain? They look a bit younger than him.