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[Draugoth]

It seems like RTX Blackwell is experiencing silicon degradation, which means that over a period of time, we might see several SKUs pop up with missing ROPs or something even more significant, depending upon the actual issue with NVIDIA's silicon. An important point to note here is that NVIDIA says that their upcoming "mid-range" GeForce RTX 5070 GPU won't be affected by the issue, indicating that Team Green might have resolved the silicon defect, or at least found a workaround.

In response to The Verge’s questions, Berraondo adds that “no other Nvidia GPUs have been affected” — we specifically asked about the upcoming RTX 5070, and he says it’s not affected either.

- The Verge

Source

 

[proandrad]

They should just start making 4080/90s again.

 

[OverHeat]

What????

 

[Physiognomonics]

Nvidia definitely shit the bed. This is what happens when you have no competition. At some point they always try to scam you.

 

[dolabla]

***hugs my 4090***

How did they allow this to happen? Class action lawsuit incoming?

 

[winjer]

WTF. This generation just keeps getting worse and worse.
It's like nvidia sent all the experienced engineers to the AI division, and left the gaming division with the interns.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

everything ive read says affected GPUs come out of the box with missing ROPs, not that they crap out over time.

thread title is wrong.

 

[proandrad]

Makes you wonder why they even launched the cards, it’s not like they were sitting on a large stockpile to even sell.

 

[Kilau]

At least I only spent $2k.

 

[Comandr]

Makes you wonder why they even launched the cards, it’s not like they were sitting on a large stockpile to even sell.

About that...

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

All this, and AMD is still going to manage to miss the shot.

 

[cormack12]

 

[Idleyes]

Oh hell naw, Nvidia, square up, we gotta throw hands, bruh.

 

[Gamer79]

WOW! Nvidia is really giving the big dick to the fans. This launch has been a complete nightmare and full shit show.

 

[CrustyBritches]

This would be way crazier than Nvidia simply shipping chips with less functioning ROPs. Are all launch 5070 Ti-5090s potentially subject to future performance degradation?

 

[T4keD0wN]

Jensen:

Spoiler: 50 series?

 

[willothedog]

Class action lawsuit incoming?

They are replacing any affected units

 

[Killer8]

Fake res, fake frames, fake ROPs.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Fake res, fake frames, fake ROPs.

Real jackets.

 

[Senua]

 

[Flabagast]

This deals keeps getting worse with every passing day.

Sorry for fellow gaffers who caved it (but you should have known better)

 

[CrustyBritches]

Fake res, fake frames, fake ROPs.

Nvidia MSRP = Missing Some ROPs Possibly

*stole this from the Gamers' Nexus comment section

 

[squidilix]

Some people still defend this.

 

[Flabagast]

Nvidia definitely shit the bed. This is what happens when you have no competition. At some point they always try to scam you.

Yep. Happens every time, in every market

 

[Magic Carpet]

I'm just expecting my 4070 to make a loud Pop sound and the inside of my PC fill with confetti.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Is this the verge speculating why ROPs were missing by pulling it out of their ass?

I mean pardon if I’m doubting a source like the verge, but yeah, need something more serious.

 

[Senua]

Some people still defend this.

Buggy Loop

 

[Bojji]

Some people still defend this.

Idiots and corpo shills. Nvidia deserves all the bad publicity over this (and lawsuits).

 

[CLW]

Enjoy those fake frames and RT before they are gone PS5 Pro Master Race

 

[Skifi28]

It keeps getting better.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The more you buy, the less you get TM

 

[Buggy Loop]

Buggy Loop

Am I wrong though?

It goes from missing ROPs which is known to degradation in the next sentence.

For the verge, is a silicon defect a degradation? Well yes. But not intel degradation.

You don’t fix the problem overnight for degradation. For missing ROPs you spot where in QC you had a failing and fix it. A degradation of intel kind with voltage levels degrading silicon is a whole rewrite of an architecture to fix.

Seems like a chatGPT write.

You would need a source of someone starting with right amount of ROPs and then losing them as he used the GPU.

Where’s that dude?

 

[cormack12]

Apparently they only shipped the Switch 2 with half a GPU. But noone will notice.

 

[Radical_3d]

WTF. This generation just keeps getting worse and worse.

Literally this launch:

 

[Magic Carpet]

Apparently they only shipped the Switch 2 with half a GPU. But noone will notice.

Need a 3rd party benchmark program to test if my Switch 2 is performing as it should.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Nvidia admits some early RTX 5080 cards are missing ROPs, too

“RTX 5070 is not affected,” says Nvidia.

www.theverge.com

That statement is not even in the original source. So wccftech improv

Cmon guys

 

[64gigabyteram]

ATP they're gonna make a super variant 5 months from now.

 

[MikeM]

Did any of you read the article?

 

[KungFucius]

This would be way crazier than Nvidia simply shipping chips with less functioning ROPs. Are all launch 5070 Ti-5090s potentially subject to future performance degradation?

It would and wouldn't Nvidia shipping defective ICs is a major fuckup and is really their responsibility. Silicon degradation would be a TSMC fuckup and would likely impact all products on the process node with similar density, possibly all ICs on the node so it would be bigger, but not NVidias fuckup.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

My 4090 read this thread and said. “LOL. LMFAO, EVEN”.

 

[damidu]

the Brickwell that keeps on giving

 

[kruis]

Am I wrong though?

It goes from missing ROPs which is known to degradation in the next sentence.

For the verge, is a silicon defect a degradation? Well yes. But not intel degradation.

You don’t fix the problem overnight for degradation. For missing ROPs you spot where in QC you had a failing and fix it. A degradation of intel kind with voltage levels degrading silicon is a whole rewrite of an architecture to fix.

Seems like a chatGPT write.

You would need a source of someone starting with right amount of ROPs and then losing them as he used the GPU.

Where’s that dude?

Yep, the article doesn't give any proof of this gradual silicon degradation. From what we now so far the problem is that somehow graphics chips with missing ROPs went undetected during the quality control phase and ended up in retail products. There's a slight possibility that these chips were 100% during QC but ROPS began dying when customers started putting heavy load on their new RTX50X0 cards but that's a far fetched scenario when people have noticed missing ROPs in cards that haven't been used at all.

 

[StereoVsn]

About that...

This is beyond ridiculous now. F Nvidia and the Man in a Leather Jacket.

 

[StereoVsn]

Literally this launch:

Somebody photoshop Jensen instead of Vader.

 

[bender]

Thread title is misleading.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Did any of you read the article?

What’s the fun in that? It would interrupt quick dopamine hits of “LOLs”

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Thanks for once again making me feel good about my 4090 purchase.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Can anyone sell me second 4090 for my small form factor build?

 

[analog_future]

There's absolutely nothing in the actual findings that suggest anything is experiencing silicon degradation or a loss of performance over time.

 

[simpatico]

Watch a review of the new Escalade EV. Woof. It will chill you to your very core. We can't make shit anymore. There's some serious devolution going on that if we don't correct quickly, the next 40 years are going to be absolutely brutal.

There are almost no exceptions to this rule. Everyone making product is making it in a very reduced state right now. Intel last year, Nvidia this year etc. Did Bulldozer count for AMD and they're already over it and fixed or.....

Am I wrong though?

It goes from missing ROPs which is known to degradation in the next sentence.

For the verge, is a silicon defect a degradation? Well yes. But not intel degradation.

You don’t fix the problem overnight for degradation. For missing ROPs you spot where in QC you had a failing and fix it. A degradation of intel kind with voltage levels degrading silicon is a whole rewrite of an architecture to fix.

Seems like a chatGPT write.

You would need a source of someone starting with right amount of ROPs and then losing them as he used the GPU.

Where’s that dude?

My only thought is someone how there are cases of individual GPUs losing ROPs they had at one time. We shall see