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Rumor: Further GeForce RTX 4090 Ti specs emerge

Is NVIDIA planning a release of even faster RTX 40 graphics cards? Recently, a leak confirmed that NVIDIA is developing an 800W GPU with possibly 48GB of memory, dubbed the TITAN GPU. Further discover...

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Is NVIDIA planning a release of even faster RTX 40 graphics cards? Recently, a leak confirmed that NVIDIA is developing an 800W GPU with possibly 48GB of memory, dubbed the TITAN GPU. Further discoveries indicate that the TITAN and RTX 4090 Ti could be two separate models.

According to leaks, the RTX 4090 Ti will have an AD102 GPU with 18176 cores, 24Gbps memory modules, and a 600W TBP. The exact meaning of TBP is unclear, but it could refer to TDP, TGP, or maximum board power. However, it may simply be a higher default board power (450W+) as the maximum customizable power limit is the same as that of the RTX 4090 Ti (600W), the maximum capacity of a 16-power connection. The faster memory chips suggest that the card will have a maximum bandwidth of 1152GB/s, 144GB/s faster than any current RTX 4090 available in the market. It is also noteworthy that sources confirm the board numbers for PG136 and PG139, which are the board reference and Founders Edition numbers for NVIDIA. This means that the RTX 4090 Ti will utilize the same circuit board as the RTX 4090.

It is known that NVIDIA has been working on this card for some time, with a metal component from the new cooler design being one of the first things leaked prior to the RTX 40 debut. Despite this, there is no confirmation of a release date for the RTX 4090 Ti, but there is no apparent reason to release a new flagship Ti model at present. However, NVIDIA is expected to hold a GTC keynote in March, which could be an ideal time for a new TITAN announcement, mentions Videocardz.

	TITAN Ada	RTX 4090 Ti	RTX 4090	RTX 4080
Alleged NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 Series Specs
Architecture	Ada (TSMC N4)	Ada (TSMC N4)	Ada (TSMC N4)	Ada (TSMC N4)
GPU	AD102-450	AD102	AD102-300	AD103-300
Board Number	PG137-SKU0	PG139/136-SKU310	PG139/136-SKU330	PG139-SKU360
SMs	142	142	126	76
CUDA Cores	18176	18176	16384	9728
Memory	48 GB G6X	24GB G6X	24 GB G6X	16 GB G6X
Memory Bus	384-bit	384-bit	384-bit	256-bit
Memory Speed	24 Gbps	24 Gbps	21 Gbps	22.4 Gbps
Power	? / 800W (max)	? / 600W (max)	450W (default) / 600W (max)	320W (default) / 355W (max)
Power Connectors	2x 16-pin	1x 16-pin	1x 16-pin	1x 16-pin
Launch Date	-	-	October 2022	November 2022

The 4090 is now obsolete, it's time to upgrade again
And your power supply as well.

 

[tusharngf]

$3000 GPU incoming

 

[Ulysses 31]

If it's another 3090 to 3090TI jump in performance(~10%) I might skip it...

 

[TVexperto]

If it's another 3090 to 3090TI jump in performance(~10%) I might skip it...

you know people will buy it even if its just 5 percent jump...they always want to have the newest shiny things

 

[GymWolf]

Well, time to sell my 4080.

 

[GHG]

Buying it just to get threatened with the guillotine again.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Right when i buy a pc with a 4090….

 

[AV]

Right when i buy a pc with a 4090….

Did you think they were going to stop making new cards or something?

 

[The_Mike]

In my country a 4090 costs 2.000 USD.

I dont get why they make GPUs like 0.1 percent of the userbase is able to pay for.

But hey, its a luxury product only Bill Gates can afford so grats nvidia, you did it again!

 

[HoofHearted]

 

[Mister Wolf]

Diminishing returns.

 

[mansoor1980]

Right when i buy a pc with a 4090….

your gpu is great tho , monster infact

 

[dotnotbot]

Well, there goes my second kidney

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[DenchDeckard]

Got my 4090.....This will probably launch in a couple of quarters, around back to school time / Q4.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Right when i buy a pc with a 4090….

Got my 4090.....This will probably launch in a couple of quarters, around back to school time / Q4.

I am quite ignorant when looking at specs like this but even I say the ti doesn't look very impressive over the 4090

 

[ExcitableBoy]

Ah man I’m going to have to upgrade by GPU again

 

[SmokedMeat]

Of course. Nvidia just can’t read the room. Maybe that leather jacket’s a little too tight.

 

[winjer]

If it's another 3090 to 3090TI jump in performance(~10%) I might skip it...

It has ~10% more cores, so you are probably right.
But I bet it's going to be a 10% increase in performance for a 50% increase in price.

 

[Black_Stride]

So the Ada Titan and 4090Ti basically confirmed.
But where is the 4080'20G.

Fuck all these larger, hotter, only marginally faster Ada Titans and 90Ti.

 

[supernova8]

These are just going to be a combination of reverse-anchor and halo products designed to:

1) ensure AMD can never get the performance crown no matter what
2) brainwash people into thinking $800 MSRP for a 4070 Ti is fine

 

[Myths]

I would imagine nearly an 11% increase in performance. Not worth the upgrade from base 4090 as I see it. Even if I wanted the Titan, I’m glad I’m proofed for the next generation of cards which may require two 12VHPWR cables.

 

[FingerBang]

I think this card will offer absolutely terrible value

The 3090 ti was 2000 USD, so the lowest this card could be is 2200, which makes me believe Nvidia will. round up to 250

A Titan will obviously be at least 3000.

I think it's going to be overkill unless new CPU come along.

 

[Jinjo]

This company keeps creating products no-one really needs, while they should be focusing on mid-range value GPU offerings. Yet, people will still buy this unfortunately. Whatever happend to the company that had that as a mission to create the best value GPU's?

 

[UnNamed]

Well, time to sell my 4080.

The same.
Time to sell my 4080 Cirrus Logic videocards with 1MB of ram, all of them.
#teampoor.

 

[winjer]

These are just going to be a combination of reverse-anchor and halo products designed to:

1) ensure AMD can never get the performance crown no matter what
2) brainwash people into thinking $800 MSRP for a 4070 Ti is fine

Seems like AMD is going to respond with RDNA3 + 3DV cache.
Although I doubt this cache will do as much to improve performance, as it did with the 5800X3D.

AMD RDNA 3 "Navi 31" GPUs Seem To Be Ready For 3D V-Cache Implementation For Future Radeon RX 7000 Cards

AMD's recently launched Navi 31 "RDNA 3" GPUs might be ready to integrate 3D V-Cache for future Radeon RX 7000 graphics cards.

wccftech.com

 

[BennyBlanco]

This company keeps creating products no-one really needs, while they should be focusing on mid-range value GPU offerings. Yet, people will still buy this unfortunately. Whatever happend to the company that had that as a mission to create the best value GPU's?

GTX 950: $159
GTX 960: $199
GTX 970: $329
GTX 980: $499
GTX 980 Ti: $649

This doesn't even feel like that long ago and compare it to where we're at now. They've really priced people out of PC gaming.

 

[GHG]

Seems like AMD is going to respond with RDNA3 + 3DV cache.
Although I doubt this cache will do as much to improve performance, as it did with the 5800X3D.

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Adding 3dv cache to their already hot GPU's doesn't seem like the best idea in the world but good luck to them. They need to try something.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

I been waiting pacing like a tiger. Fought off the 4090. Want to upgrade bad from my 2080ti for Undisputed.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

GTX 950: $159
GTX 960: $199
GTX 970: $329
GTX 980: $499
GTX 980 Ti: $649

This doesn't even feel like that long ago and compare it to where we're at now. They've really priced people out of PC gaming.

And the truth is my ps5 and xsx do MORE than hold their own with my 2080ti. Maybe I could chalk it up to the new consoles having hdmi 2.1, but most pc games perform worse or stutter kr some other bullshit without turning everything down making the consoles the even easier choice.

 

[Spukc]

Damn imagine all the 4090 owners suddenly having shit cards

 

[daninthemix]

Time to toss my 4090 in the bin where it belongs. Ancient garbage.

 

[winjer]

Adding 3dv cache to their already hot GPU's doesn't seem like the best idea in the world but good luck to them. They need to try something.

The 3D cache is placed on top of the already existing L3 cache. Not on top of the GPU die.
Also consider that one of the advancements AMD made after the 5800X3D, and that is going to be present on the 70003D CPUs, and probably on these RDNA3, is a new independent voltage regulator, for the cache.

 

[The Cockatrice]

in 3 years, you can either buy a house or buy an nvidia gpu for the same amount.

 

[GHG]

The 3D cache is placed on top of the already existing L3 cache. Not on top of the GPU die.
Also consider that one of the advancements AMD made after the 5800X3D, and that is going to be present on the 70003D CPUs, and probably on these RDNA3, is a new independent voltage regulator, for the cache.

To be honest my knowledge of the exact placement of the 3D cache is limited so I'm just going off my experience with my 5800X3D, but what seems to happen with that chip is that the heat gets trapped and there's only so much you can do to tame the heat no matter what cooling solution you have.

So hopefully they have made some advancements in this area.

 

[winjer]

To be honest my knowledge of the exact placement of the 3D cache is limited so I'm just going off my experience with my 5800X3D, but what seems to happen with that chip is that the heat gets trapped and there's only so much you can do to tame the heat no matter what cooling solution you have.

So hopefully they have made some advancements in this area.

On the case of the 5800X3D, it has to be placed on top of the CPU die, because the cache is made in N7, just like the CPU beneath it. The IO die is made in N12, so that would be much harder to connect each other, if not impossible, as the physical dimensions of the transistors would be very different.
According to AMD slides, the 3DV cache on RDNA3 is going to be placed on top of the L3. This one is made in N6, while the GPU die is made in N5. Remember that N5 is a new node, while N6 is a half node deriving from N7.
Having the 3DV cache on top and connected to the existing L3, is probably the quickest, cheapest and best way to double the amount of cache for the GPU.
But like I said, I doubt this cache increase will bring big improvements in performance.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Did you think they were going to stop making new cards or something?

Lol im mostly being facetious, the card i got will last me a good long time

 

[Klik]

I just dont see any game in near future that would justify even RTX 4080. Most of games are crossgen with good but not UE5 level graphics..

I have RTX 3060ti, i play most games on 1440p 100fps on high settings..
I'll just will wait for RTX 5xxx series in Q4 2024

 

[Kacho]

GTX 950: $159
GTX 960: $199
GTX 970: $329
GTX 980: $499
GTX 980 Ti: $649

This doesn't even feel like that long ago and compare it to where we're at now. They've really priced people out of PC gaming.

I remember dropping $500 on a 980 and thinking the price was absurd lol

Linus said in a recent video that Nvidia is going to push PC gamers to consoles with the insane prices, which I don't doubt for a second. People will still use their PCs for smaller/older games, but new shit will be played on consoles.

 

[blastprocessor]

Man bring the 4060 out already. Have a 1060 that needs replacing.

 

[Draugoth]

You have to be rich to be a pc gamer nowdays

 

[Jinjo]

And the truth is my ps5 and xsx do MORE than hold their own with my 2080ti. Maybe I could chalk it up to the new consoles having hdmi 2.1, but most pc games perform worse or stutter kr some other bullshit without turning everything down making the consoles the even easier choice.

That's kinda the thing isn't it, you buy an insane GPU for 1500-2000 dollars / euro's and you still have to deal with shit like shader stutters, bad CPU optimisation and driver issues. While on console things just work, perhaps on a lower fidelity, but how would you know better if the only setting you can choose is 30 vs 60 fps (or sometimes even 60 vs 120 fps).

 

[VAVA Mk2]

How about just a regular 4070 at a fair price? I am only targeting 1440p. Is that too much to ask for?

 

[Black_Stride]

I remember dropping $500 on a 980 and thinking the price was absurd lol

Linus said in a recent video that Nvidia is going to push PC gamers to consoles with the insane prices, which I don't doubt for a second. People will still use their PCs for smaller/older games, but new shit will be played on consoles.

GTX 1070 was like 400 for a Strix and I thought that was ridiculous.
Turing was a joke until the 2060 Super. (2070 Super gets an honorable mention too)
Ampere no lie I bought into the hyper with Ampere.
The 3060ti was/is such a beast of card I still consider it a good buy.

Now Ada is some other shit.
Lets see the performance/price of the 4070 base model.
Still patiently waiting for the 4080'20G, we know that chip exists now just bring it out at a correct price.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Can't read those stats with all this studder bouncing my eyeballs around.
But If I'm going to build a new PC might as well get this.

 

[M1chl]

So it same core as in the Titan, interesting. I had RTX Titan (beefed up 2080Ti), it was good card, switching to 3090 was disappointing, due to it not really being commercial grade, thus I had SW issues, with soft which I am using. Maybe now I might bite again?

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

In the market for a new PC so maybe...seems like overkill. I'm trying to play vampire survivor not launch a rocket to space.

 

[KyoZz]

Alleged pictures of the 4090Ti:

NVIDIA's quad-slot GeForce RTX 4090Ti/TITAN 800W graphics card has been pictured - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA’s quad-slot RTX 40 800W GPU pictured Hardware leaker MEGAsizeGPU has revealed the design of the upcoming NVIDIA RTX 40 GPU. NVIDIA RTX 4090Ti/TITAN quad-slot cooler, Source: MegaSizeGPU The rumored RTX 4090Ti/TITAN would feature a four slot design and the I/O bracket would have a stacked...

videocardz.com

 

[Ulysses 31]

4 slot?

 

[Dream-Knife]

So the Ada Titan and 4090Ti basically confirmed.
But where is the 4080'20G.

Fuck all these larger, hotter, only marginally faster Ada Titans and 90Ti.

I almost guarantee they won't do both a 90ti and titan. There's really no point as they are the same card, just more vram and different drivers. Why buy the titan when you could just get an A100?

4080 20gb doesn't exist, just like the 3080 20gb.