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Rumor : CNBC: Sony to release a PS5 Pro this year
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It baffles me that people are confused or put off by this. As soon as games started hitting 30fps and sub 4k this generation this was an inevitability.
We're still seeing games released today that are struggling built on UE 4. The real truth is the OG PS5 and the Xbox Series X just weren't powerful enough at launch. Neither console could run something like Assassin's Creed Valhalla at full resolution / framerate, and EVERY major first party release for Sony was cross platform.
We're still seeing games released today that are struggling built on UE 4. The real truth is the OG PS5 and the Xbox Series X just weren't powerful enough at launch. Neither console could run something like Assassin's Creed Valhalla at full resolution / framerate, and EVERY major first party release for Sony was cross platform.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Nah, not really.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
You mean the same people that said September 2023 release date?
That's not info, that's someone saying shit with nothing to back it up and people reporting it because they reported one thing that was true because it was literally about to be released
Is this what we've been reduced to?
Believing anything without receipts
I remember when sources had to verified before you would even report it, no headlines are from random tweets
and let's not forget Insomniac leaks shown no evidence of a Pro model existing, even the leaked Wolverine code shown nothing regarding it existing.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
saintjules
Gold Member
Interesting. What are the points directed indicating digital only? Not ruling out a two SKU situation, but the caveat to that would be convoluting the models that already exist.
I was thinking that they do a disc/detachable option, but maybe digital only Pro and then making people buy a detachable disc might be smarter.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Like I said before, the PS5 Pro was supposed to release last year, and what we got when it was a no show was it's been sent out to 3rd Party Devs instead.
If it existed from the time those insiders suggested we would have seen it by now in some shape or form.
I'm okay, with you guys believing it exists.
But I don't, sorry.
I could be wrong, but I don't care.
Currently I don't believe there is one, the evidence of it's existence isn't good for "me" at the moment.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
It will be detachable
I don’t think they want to go above $599 for this and having the disc drive separate would allow them to reach that price point
Rocco Schiavone
Member
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I think that's reasonable but if it isn't people will still be going on about it right up until PS6 releases.
And people will still make up rumours.
saintjules
Gold Member
Sounds about right. $599USD and then the attachable disc drive at the same price where it is now of $79USD.
I can then see a bundle packaging of $649USD for both.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
RCU005
Member
I don’t understand the reason for this existing. Doesn’t matter how many rumors there are, it just seem very unlikely it will happen, and people are just expecting it due to history repeating.
If Sony does release it, what is the point? They haven’t released one first party game that has used the PS5 specs. Just a very few third party games have felt “next-gen”.
This is a waste, as well as Sony focusing on GaaS.
If Sony does release it, what is the point? They haven’t released one first party game that has used the PS5 specs. Just a very few third party games have felt “next-gen”.
This is a waste, as well as Sony focusing on GaaS.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Because perfect 60fps as always
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
What are you talking about?
Every single title has “used the specs”
A Pro would allow games to use “more specs”
saintjules
Gold Member
To each their own indeed. It's for the enthusiasts. And for those who don't want to wait x amount of time for a PS game to hit PC.
I mean, imagine waiting for a game like Bloodborne to hit PC. Just not ideal for some people to wait.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
If they indeed launch a pro console, I'm hoping for a true high-end system targeting 1k. Another 499 console that is slightly better isn't worth the upgrade.
saintjules
Gold Member
Some things just don't have much understanding. Like new phone iterations annually or new GPUs released annually.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Feels like a rumor of a rumor.
And I have no doubt GTA will be delayed into 2026.
And I have no doubt GTA will be delayed into 2026.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Safest bet.
dragonyeuw
Member
It wouldn't surprise me if they released the Pro as a digital only model and put it on the customer to add the drive at $80, just so it cuts down on the number of SKUs( you'd be looking at disc/digital slim and disc/digital Pro, just seems too much but what do I know?).
Xaeroxcore666
Member
As a former PS4 Pro user and now PS5 user, i´d just say: fuck it! We need more real next gen games, most part of PS5 catalogue are still Crossgen, more than 3 years after lauch so... Not this time Sony! Take full advantage of the current PS5 First! Obviously "Day 1 gang" is gonna jump on the train, like they always does with everything Sony drops, and most of them are gonna tell you that your current PS5 is not gonna work with GTA VI and whatsoever other games in vogue are gonna be available....But i just say...Look at 2013 PS4 and it´s 1,8 Tflops running Ragnarok, GT 7, Forbidden West and even RE 4 Remake like a champion....So...not upgrade needed, dont fall on that shit!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If they do release it, it will be like the PS5 refresh with an option to add.
PSYGN
Member
Anyone else not caring about this? First-party output hasn't really had me like damn this is really pushing the PS5 (save for maybe a couple games). And I'm not optimistic that most devs would go back to let the game take in the full power of the PS5 Pro save for maybe a few first party PS5 games.
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cash_longfellow
Member
Well yea…it wouldn’t be a next gen console.
Really looking forward to the improvements thar Pro will bring.
Especially ray tracing performance (GT7 with ray traced reflections during actual races is super tempting
) and if indeed there is something similar to DLSS, that could allow for performance modes that look like quality modes.
But Pro makes a lot of sense for Sony on the business side as well. Given the macro-economic situation that is making cutting prices really difficult, introducing new hardware offering higher performance that justifies the high price can really help to offset the decline in hardware sales on old models.
Especially ray tracing performance (GT7 with ray traced reflections during actual races is super tempting
) and if indeed there is something similar to DLSS, that could allow for performance modes that look like quality modes.But Pro makes a lot of sense for Sony on the business side as well. Given the macro-economic situation that is making cutting prices really difficult, introducing new hardware offering higher performance that justifies the high price can really help to offset the decline in hardware sales on old models.
Chittagong
Gold Member
While I am one to always welcome a Pro console and get it day one, the challenge PS5 faces at the moment is not one that will be fixed by a Pro console. The drought of high profile games due to longer and longer production times and half a billion budgets have led to a situation where we see, at best it seems, a single game from a top studio in an entire generation.
Take Quantic Dream for example. Between 2010 and 2018 they put out three really major games - Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls and Detroit. In the 8 years that follow, they will be lucky to put out one game. That's an entire generation. Or Naughty Dog. They put in five games - three Uncharted games and two Last of Us - between 2019 and 2020. Their last new game was Last of Us Part II in 2020. It looks pretty unlikely that we will see a new game from them in the next two years. So we will probably see one game from them in the time they did five last time around. That's pretty much the entire generation gone. Bungie's last game is Destiny 2 in 2017, and we are lucky if we see Marathon launch in the next two years. Or Suckerpunch, with Ghost of Tsushima in 2020, a cross gen game, will be lucky to put out one true PS5 game this generation.
Looking at the list of PlayStation Studios, I am not sure where the required shot in the arm will come from to get us excited about a Pro.
Take Quantic Dream for example. Between 2010 and 2018 they put out three really major games - Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls and Detroit. In the 8 years that follow, they will be lucky to put out one game. That's an entire generation. Or Naughty Dog. They put in five games - three Uncharted games and two Last of Us - between 2019 and 2020. Their last new game was Last of Us Part II in 2020. It looks pretty unlikely that we will see a new game from them in the next two years. So we will probably see one game from them in the time they did five last time around. That's pretty much the entire generation gone. Bungie's last game is Destiny 2 in 2017, and we are lucky if we see Marathon launch in the next two years. Or Suckerpunch, with Ghost of Tsushima in 2020, a cross gen game, will be lucky to put out one true PS5 game this generation.
Looking at the list of PlayStation Studios, I am not sure where the required shot in the arm will come from to get us excited about a Pro.
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Paulxo87
Member
If they do not have some type of bespoke resolution/frame rate scaling via brute force option that works with a majority of games then I don't see it viable. I'm sure they will show the pro off with some pro enhanced first party titles such as ghost 2 etc but if devs MUST patch in improvements every time it'll be a hard sell for most. I'll be trading in my ps5 for one day one however.
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saintjules
Gold Member
I think it's mostly about future proofing. Like getting a 4090 GPU - big dick swinging and nothing to poke it with.
Seeing devs patch existing games with the ability to run fidelity + performance comfortably would be nice.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
I’m sure everyone on this site will buy a PS5 pro because of the same reason, it will also be the best way to play GTA 6 but outside of that I think it’s kind of messed up that Sony plans to sell a new ps5 and didn’t deliver with the OG PS5, the number of first party game output this gen has been terrible.
It your a console only gamer, I totally get why you would want a ps5 pro though because at least you would get to play 3rd party games at slightly better performance.
I’m still waiting don’t see an issue, fomo isn’t a good thing lol.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Imagine if Insomniac wasn't a thing. The PS5's game library would have been pretty sad.
lefty1117
Gold Member
What are the good new games that have come out recently that I could play if I got one. Ihave a launch PS5 but it's with my kid at college. I wasn't really playing it much when he took it. I hear Spiderman 2 is OK but not as good as the original. What other reason do I have to get it?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And I haven't purchased a single Insomniac game this gen on the PS5. Huh, weird.
I guess that's how variety works.
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Buying a Ps5 pro is bad idea when they dont have enough exclusive games to justify the base ps5 purchase. If you dont have a PC and dont own a Ps4 go for it but otherwise it just logically makes no sense supporting sony with your hard earned cash, they should worry about making the original ps5 playerbase happy before worrying about a pro. My ps5 is a street fighter 6 and elden ring machine. Returnal and Ragnarok are my only 2 exclusives. They should work harder than this but they are winning and dont have proper competition, its a crappy situation, hopefully most wont get the upgrade.
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yurinka
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You personally not liking a game doesn't mean other people will like it. Also, I find pretty retarded the idea of a game being "a console seller". Nobody is going to by a $500 to play a single game.
People buys a console because they plan to use it during many years playing in the sofa multiple games on it. People chooses a console or another for several reasons. One of them being if its catalog includes game that person likes.
PlayStation has the biggest and more diverse lineup of all the consoles. Unless you only like Nintendo games, PS will have the best lineup for any niches you like. That list is a great example: several games that will be great for these types of games. And like the 3rd party exclusives they will have that FY like FFVIIR or ZZZ people won't be able to find them anywhere else.
Regarding exclusives, most people don't give a fuck. Most best selling / most played games are multiplatform: GTA, CoD, FIFA, Minecraft, PUBG, Fortnite, Apex Legends, AC etc. Most people just buys the games they like and don't care if are exclusive or not.
In case of PlayStation, many people just buy it by default because they know it's going to get a ton of games they'll like. So PS5 Pro, like PS4 Pro, doesn't need any specific exclusive.
Regarding the list, Concord pretty sure will be one of the most successful 2023 games and maybe the most. It's being made by ex-Bungie people who worked in the first Halos or Destiny 1, CoD devs and many people who also worked in other top shooters. I'm pretty sure it will be a big hit that may even make more money than Spider-Man 2 and GoWR.
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Celcius
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There’s zero chance the Pro comes out this summer lol. There would have already been a leak.
I’m assuming it’s been cancelled.
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WitchHunter
Banned
Fuck, bring us a replaceable GPU+CPU that can be slotted in a PC with a PCie card. Just like they "solved" the fucked up potentiometers in the PS controllers with replaceable thumbstick modules.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Its not coming this Summer, never was intended to its always been a much closer to holiday release.
Does anyone remember when we got real leaks for the PS4 Pro prior to its launch?
saintjules
Gold Member
This one?
Gameblog (French, PS4 Pro reveal date leak) feeds the NX rumor mill
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/62928-j-ai-quelque-chose-a-vous-dire-sur-la-nintendo-nx-ses-premie [fr] So this is very heavily using "should be" and "might be", but it's worth a translation: - He says he's only sharing stuff multiple sources have confirmed - "Sure about 20 games in development"...
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Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Uh......why? Is this needed? I guess they want the high $$$ from the few people that will buy it.
Focus on making games Sony......................then a PS6 in a few years. Only a handful of games have been made exclusively for the PS5
Focus on making games Sony......................then a PS6 in a few years. Only a handful of games have been made exclusively for the PS5
saintjules
Gold Member
Yes.
Why do we need a 4090 GPU when most games aren't taking advantage of it? There for those that want it.
Why do we need the S24 Ultra when my S22 Ultra is working fine? There for those that want it.
Why do we need to go get a 2024 Honda CRV? There for those that want it.
Why is there an Apple Vision Pro that costs $3499? There for those that want it.
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