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[jason10mm]

Alas, bricklaying is a much more skilled job than nailing a wood house. You can see all the crazy shit new construction is doing with wood these days and with massive time pressure, lax enforcing of codes, and few skilled craftsmen its just getting worse.

I figure 3D printed structures will take over in a lot of areas if a few large builders can start promoting them.

As it is, unless we get onboard with revitalizing the trades, I don't see things changing much otherwise.

 

[ManaByte]

Most people aren’t falling for the BS deflection this time.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I live in what was the get ready to get out zone, I want heads and asses to roll! This was fkn unacceptable! They let this fire burn uncontrollably for 48 hours before doing anything

They couldn't get the planes or helicopters in the air because of the winds. Also had a severe lack of staffing and no water pressure.

Tokyo is a concrete jungle, but the majority of those buildings have extensive rebar which is not feasible for low density development. Single family homes in Japan are all wood.

Yes, many people have said that southern California needs more high rises, but we haven't seen them.

 

[SpiceRacz]

I understand the issue with earthquakes but there are plenty of places around the world that have earthquake where the houses are not wood. Expensive or not, most buildings should not be wood. Phoenix is a time bomb and I don't believe it's prone to quakes. Most hot countries especially places like Spain have almost no wooden houses, just stone mainly. You get fire all the time In Spain but they don't spread much. The Romans used bricks for that reason and Rome has quakes.

How is Phoenix a time bomb? Can you please elaborate?

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Most people aren’t falling for the BS deflection this time.

Just like always - when you stop censor people and elites directly affected, they stop blame bullshit. Plus since 2020 the belief (imagine saying that) in science declined heavily.
It is like with illegals - it was not a problem for liberals until southern states started to bus illegals to their neighborhoods

As they rebuild, they should make outdoor sprinkler systems a mandatory city code. Every new house should have them, along with back up reservoir. Same goes for city streets/street lights, build them in. It may also be worth it to carve up some of the mountains to slow the speed of gusting wind and potentially redirect it under the cities as opposed to over and across the cities, hire The Boring Company for something like this.

There is a lot of things they can do - California's GDP is higher than France. And 8 times bigger than Israel's. They just need to kick out environmentalists and grifters - do controlled fires, desalination, get water from the north etc. You literally have Silicon Valley there and they could come up with some high tech solution.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

There is no evidence that "climate change" caused any of these fires and you can't prove it. In fact, nobody can prove it, not even the climate change advocates. The models don't work that way. Nor do the ones they build out to try to mitigate damage from climate change.

I mean you could just as easily sue real estate developers for building tons of houses in these areas, putting them in the way of the fires - even if you waved a magic wand and returned to the climate of the 1950s, there werre still fires, but there were a lot less people living in danger areas (CA has 4x as many people today as it did back then).

You are just yelling at clouds right now.

Heck, you can actually make a climate change argument that doing controlled fires would be preferable over not doing them at all. The cumulative CO2 emissions from controlled burns will be lower than that of one big destructive wildfire amounting to casualties and billions in damages.

 

[Kacho]

Most people aren’t falling for the BS deflection this time.

CNN:

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

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Heck, you can actually make a climate change argument that doing controlled fires would be preferable over not doing them at all. The cumulative CO2 emissions from controlled burns will be lower than that of one big destructive wildfire amounting to casualties and billions in damages.

Then some environmentalists will pop up crying about saving the environment - while living in an area not affected by the fires

 

[EviLore]

Bari on point. You’re not handling the fundamentals at all anymore, Cali.

 

[ManaByte]

Bari on point. You’re not handling the fundamentals at all anymore, Cali.

She has a point if people are having trouble grasping how big this is. This is like if Manhattan was nuked.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You literally have Silicon Valley there and they could come up with some high tech solution.

They will be, in the new 'coming soon' smart city

Heck, you can actually make a climate change argument that doing controlled fires would be preferable over not doing them at all. The cumulative CO2 emissions from controlled burns will be lower than that of one big destructive wildfire amounting to casualties and billions in damages.

Yep. Florida does controlled burns all the time due to lightning strikes in the dryer season.

If only there wasn't a wealth of information spanning decades out there.

Controlled Burning

Controlled burns are an important tool for maintaining the health and safety of a forest.

education.nationalgeographic.org

 

[Kacho]

Yep. Florida does controlled burns all the time due to lightning strikes in the dryer season.

If only there wasn't a wealth of information for decades out there.

Controlled Burning

Controlled burns are an important tool for maintaining the health and safety of a forest.

education.nationalgeographic.org

If only people on the internet stopped denying climate change celebrities in LA could sell their private jets and elected officials would have the means to be better prepared. Cause and effect. Duh.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Kacho]

Had to check if that was real.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/13/tech/meta-fact-checkers-wildfire-conspiracy-theories/index.html

 

[Tajaz2426]

They will be, in the new 'coming soon' smart city


Yep. Florida does controlled burns all the time due to lightning strikes in the dryer season.

If only there wasn't a wealth of information spanning decades out there.

Controlled Burning

Controlled burns are an important tool for maintaining the health and safety of a forest.

education.nationalgeographic.org

I live Beaufort, SC and grew up in Florida outside of Daytona Beach area in the Ocala National Forrest. They did burns every spring before rainy season, they also take out dead timber depending on the percent of the area and dead branches to keep from tinderboxing.

They do the same in SC in every wooded area, clean power lines of debris, etc.

I honestly didn’t even know some states didn’t do this, as fire in wooded areas expel more emissions. These environment morons saved the dead timber in the Forrest for 30 years. This is what happens when you care more about an ideology than simple science.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Had to check if that was real.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/13/tech/meta-fact-checkers-wildfire-conspiracy-theories/index.html

I mean, social media is honestly a huge problem in general. Most of it is blatant lies, out of context videos to support a cause, and a whole bunch of stone throwing. Depending on what side of any argument you're on, you will always find your truth no matter if it's bullshit. It's a cancer that is ripping society apart. Even this place can't keep their shit together half the time and come up with weird demented ways to say why we're wrong or right. The simple matter of the fact is, humanity has a hard time dealing with humility and bias. That's why everything we do is like rooting for a team, if you're not with us, you're against us.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I live Beaufort, SC and grew up in Florida outside of Daytona Beach area in the Ocala National Forrest. They did burns every spring before rainy season, they also take out dead timber depending on the percent of the area and dead branches to keep from tinderboxing.

They do the same in SC in every wooded area, clean power lines of debris, etc.

I honestly didn’t even know some states didn’t do this, as fire in wooded areas expel more emissions. These environment morons saved the dead timber in the Forrest for 30 years. This is what happens when you care more about an ideology than simple science.

In Northwest territories forest fires happen all the time. But because the place is so sparsely populated the gov just lets them naturally burn out like whats been happening since the beginning of time. It wouldnt even be possible to put them out considering how many there are and how few people are there to firefight.

Northwest Territories Ablaze

Boreal forests in this northerly Canadian territory have evolved to burn, but the increasing frequency of fires is putting ecosystems to the test.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

Problem with the LA situation is they got wooden houses everywhere, forests are close to populated areas and they didnt seem to have the resources in manpower, strategy and water to get it under control anyway.

You'd think in a situation like this there would be more planning and preparations.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This chick...

I read it in Mark Dice's Stelter voice

 

[Tajaz2426]

I’m on Parris Island Recruit Depot here in Beaufort as I just got done golfing and decided to go to the backside of the base and see if they even do controlled burns there, as it is a few miles from any buildings for trading the recruits.

This is what they do year in and out. Never have out of control fires. They also take out dead timber and debris.

Edit: waiting for pics to upload, not much reception out here on base.

Edit edit: can someone tell me why the pictures won’t upload? It says processing then fail on everyone I try. Biggest size 6mb.

 

[Tajaz2426]

This is the spot on PI that I was at. Backside parris island and driving through the rest it seems they have done it all over base. I’ll be at the Air Station tomorrow doing some F35 stuff so I’ll check the backside there where the jump pads are.

Pay no attention to the little green man in one pic. He is just there to get stabbed on an assault course for the Crucible to get the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor and become a US Marine.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[EviLore]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Its insane how destructive the fire has been. I'm watching news now and they are showing clips. It's like the cities got carpet bombed in WWII.

They even showed a quick fly by of a part of the city along the water, there's one row of houses along the water, then a road in between that home strip and other homes that are inner land. And the fire even hit that lone strip of homes.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

It's like the cities got carpet bombed in WWII.

It is actually comparable to the aftermath of a nuclear bombing.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Most people aren’t falling for the BS deflection this time.

I mean, the only way for fires to start naturally is from lightning strikes........

There wasn't any lightning and everyone knows LA doesn't have weather in a general sense. So it had to be humans that started the fires LMAO

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Did climate change ban @Punished Miku?

Due to climate change the severity and frequency of bans are increasing. Unless they decrease, in which case it does that instead.

 

[Liljagare]

One happy ending, amidst all the pain and suffering.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I mean, the only way for fires to start naturally is from lightning strikes........

There wasn't any lightning and everyone knows LA doesn't have weather in a general sense. So it had to be humans that started the fires LMAO

There’s videos all over of people lighting fires and still lighting them.

With their climate change lighters.

 

[T8SC]

From $10,000 hammers to $50,000 toilet seats

 

[ManaByte]

Still trying to wrap my head around Pacific Palisades being gone.

 

[DragoonKain]

He said the house he recently sold in the LA area burned down and as only Tim can, talked about it and the fires in comedic fashion.

 

[EviLore]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

New fire started near a global warming camp.

 

[Tajaz2426]

The prep burns are about 50 yards from us. It goes on for miles of the runways, etc. they also thinned out the pines trees and I couldn’t find but a few dead dry timber.

Through in our multirole fighter the F18 for us Marines. Love the dam things and saved our butts more than I can count overseas.

Funny little story VMFA(AW)-533 was attached to us in 03 I believe and 224 which is also here, we in 05 and 07. In Afghanistan we use carrier based F-18s. All weather squadrons are on FOBS.

The other picture is what I get to see every morning when I go fishing before doing my actual secret stuff. Don’t be jealous of that view, boys! Come fishing with me!

 

[The Fartist]

This is the backside of the Air Station where the jump pads for STOVL and compass rose for the 35s. The prep burns are about 50 yards from us. It goes on for miles of the runways, etc. they also thinned out the pines trees and I couldn’t find but a few dead dry timber.

Through in our multirole fighter the F18 for us Marines. Love the dam things and saved our butts more than I can count overseas.

Funny little story VMFA(AW)-533 was attached to us in 03 I believe and 224 which is also here, we in 05 and 07. In Afghanistan we use carrier based F-18s. All weather squadrons are operated out of FOBs.

Sorry cannot post any 35 shots or anything else. The other picture is what I get to see every morning when I go fishing before doing my actual secret stuff. Don’t be jealous of that view, boys! Come fishing with me!

 

[Tajaz2426]

We were showing prep burning in our states. I can see the confusion.

 

[The Fartist]

We were showing prep burning in our states. I can see the confusion.

Sorry, it's early for me.

 

[DeafTourette]

They need to develop an Oxygen bomb (like in Godzilla) for fires. Like different levels for neighborhood fires, forest fires, citywide fires, etc. When regular firefighters and equipment is too overwhelmed for the job.... Get the oxygen bomb.

 

[ManaByte]

Guess San Diego is on the redevelopment menu as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Gov. Newsom cut fire-fighting budget while pouring billions of dollars into his ‘Don Quixote’ green ventures: critics

“This is not a time to be nickel and diming the people of California around climate investments,” Ryan Schleeter, a spokesperson for environmental think tank The Climate Center, told Th…

nypost.com

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Tom Hanks' and Steven Spielberg's Houses Spared by Fire

Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are two lucky Hollywood stars ... 'cause both of their houses appear unscathed while the rest of their neighborhoods burn around them.

www.google.com.mx

Que casualidad.

How suspicious.

And more suspicious is that they are done days before Trump arrives.

 

[kruis]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[AlphaDump]

This is the backside of the Air Station where the jump pads for STOVL and compass rose for the 35s. The prep burns are about 50 yards from us. It goes on for miles of the runways, etc. they also thinned out the pines trees and I couldn’t find but a few dead dry timber.

Through in our multirole fighter the F18 for us Marines. Love the dam things and saved our butts more than I can count overseas.

Funny little story VMFA(AW)-533 was attached to us in 03 I believe and 224 which is also here, we in 05 and 07. In Afghanistan we use carrier based F-18s. All weather squadrons are operated out of FOBs.

Sorry cannot post any 35 shots or anything else. The other picture is what I get to see every morning when I go fishing before doing my actual secret stuff. Don’t be jealous of that view, boys! Come fishing with me!

I appreciate the info, but don't get yourself fired for posting anything that breaches your Security protocols.

 

[DragoonKain]

Is someone starting these fires on purpose?

As awful as it is to say, I can't believe it doesn't happen more often. The amount of people in this world who randomly decide to do dumb shit, all it takes is one human being, not even an adult, to decide to be a moron and start a fire, and all of a sudden you have utter chaos.

 

[jason10mm]

They need to develop an Oxygen bomb (like in Godzilla) for fires. Like different levels for neighborhood fires, forest fires, citywide fires, etc. When regular firefighters and equipment is too overwhelmed for the job.... Get the oxygen bomb.

There are mass CO2 (and Nitrogen or NO, as well as other gasses) releases (industrial, sometimes environmental from lakes or whatnot) that can extinguish open flames. But they won't COOL the area, so the intense heat will just reignite any fuel once O2 comes back in. Plus you just killed any humans in the area

A lot of that those planes are dumping is a chemical fire retardant, not just water.

The only real solution is to remove fuel, aka wood. Stopping the igniter, be it shitty power lines, trash that reflects sunlight, or human folly/arson, can only really delay the inevitable in these types of areas as eventually SOMETHING will spark it and the more fuel around, the worse the fire will be.

I wonder if they will just build tall walls. Ruin everyones view and embers can still drift over in these high winds, but maybe if they hire all those california creative types they can paint a massive mural of the hills on the inside of the wall

 

[ManaByte]

Is someone starting these fires on purpose?