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Santa Monica issuing evacuation order

Ownage

Member
My best friend lives in Palisades with his small family. He had to evacuate. I pray the fire doesn't take his home or anyone else, but damn... he said it didn't look good.
Insurance companies pulled out of the area. Folks are having to self insure.

Antifa is being stated as one cause of the fires. Curious that DTLA fire popped off at the same time as Palisades. Diverting resources from one area to another while main event is staged. But, who knows until we know.








 
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Blade2.0

Member
Holy Shit! Did they make it? It seems like there fate is sealed unless there something Im missing?
Depending on the material of the house, it may not burn and he has concrete all around the perimeter. So they might live, however, suffocation could definitely be an issue with how much fire there is. Most die from oxygen deprivation in a fire instead of the actual fire.
 

Nydius

Member
Insurance companies pulled out of the area. Folks are having to self insure.

Doesn’t surprise me in the least. They’ve been doing the same shit in hurricane prone areas for many years. Either raising rates so high that people can’t afford it or leaving all together with minimal or no warning. 😡

Back on track though: How the fuck does an entire community simply have no water going to their fire hydrants?!? Especially knowing how fire prone Southern California is? Heads need to roll for this. If any of these bureaucrats try to shift blame to the firefighters for not showing up (what’s the point if they have no water!), they need to be tarred and feathered publicly.
 
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Ownage

Member
Doesn’t surprise me in the least. They’ve been doing the same shit in hurricane prone areas for many years. Either raising rates so high that people can’t afford it or leaving all together with minimal or no warning. 😡

Back on track though: How the fuck does an entire community simply have no water going to their fire hydrants?!? Especially knowing how fire prone Southern California is? Heads need to roll for this. If any of these bureaucrats try to shift blame to the firefighters for not showing up (what’s the point if they have no water!), they need to be tarred and feathered publicly.
Meanwhile...





 
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Pagusas

Elden Member
LA is having massive buyer’s remorse right now. The DEI hire they were forced to elect is out of the country while they burn to the ground and the guy who lost is there trying to save the city.
Getting Ted Cruz vibes from this. Being a shitty/horrible Politian and person is for sure not limited anything.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Looking at some of the devastation today it's just really heartbreaking.

California is a beautiful state, but it has so many things you have to be willing to put up with to get the great weather, and depending on the area, the beautiful homes. Wildfires, droughts, super expensive to live in with their taxes, earthquakes, rationing water, power outages, massive homeless encampments, terrible traffic(in the LA area).

It's wild seeing oceanfront homes all destroyed. It's almost like mother nature's taunting. "The water is right there, but it can't save you from the flames." Wish them all a speedy recovery in putting their lives back together, this is going to be a bad one.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
That stuff is toxic, but in fairness, we don't know if it had anything to do with this situation. I'm all for opposing DEI, I just don't like when people overuse it as an agenda in situations where it doesn't merit it. It hurts good faith reasons to abolish it.

It pissed me off the other day when after the terrorist attack, they had the FBI woman speaking and everyone was immediately like "DEI candidate" just because she was black. For all they know she could've been a 15 year veteran of the bureau.
 

Meicyn

Member
The most important issues for them.

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The sad part about all of this? These people will face zero repercussions that they deserve to face.
I’m not understanding the fire chief issue. The fire department is literally fighting the fires as best they can and the fire department does not control the supply of water. Hydrants rely on the same infrastructure that supply our tap water.
 

Madflavor

Member
Looking at some of the devastation today it's just really heartbreaking.

California is a beautiful state, but it has so many things you have to be willing to put up with to get the great weather, and depending on the area, the beautiful homes. Wildfires, droughts, super expensive to live in with their taxes, earthquakes, rationing water, power outages, massive homeless encampments, terrible traffic(in the LA area).

It's wild seeing oceanfront homes all destroyed. It's almost like mother nature's taunting. "The water is right there, but it can't save you from the flames." Wish them all a speedy recovery in putting their lives back together, this is going to be a bad one.

I truly don't think that it's worth living out there anymore. All for what, good weather? Mother nature has been telling humans to migrate out of there for many years now, and we're not listening.
 

Nydius

Member
I’ve been watching this lengthy press conference and, if I heard and understood correctly, the lack of water in Pacific Palisades is supposedly because they have two large tanks that supply water to the fire hydrant trunk lines and they ran through it so fast that they lost the pressure needed to move the remaining water through the system. She went on to say that they can’t refill it fast enough to restore pressure so that water is effectively “stuck” in the trunk lines.

Still seems like a ridiculous oversight to not have some redundancy for the system, but my knowledge of city engineering is limited to video game sims. 🤷
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I’m not understanding the fire chief issue. The fire department is literally fighting the fires as best they can and the fire department does not control the supply of water. Hydrants rely on the same infrastructure that supply our tap water.
They inspect the hydrants often (at least they're supposed to) especially going into the wildfire dry season, and report that to the proper utilities.

That should be the number one issue in the mission statement, not dIvErSiTy.

If they're dry, make a stink about it. Post it as your mission statement. How many more examples do we need before we wake up to all these systems everywhere breaking down the past 4 to 6 years since meritocracy took a backseat?

That, and the federal oversight controlled burns and pruning have been either denied or not been done at all the past 4 years as well. It's like they want us to suffer.
 
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Meicyn

Member
They inspect the hydrants often (at least they're supposed to) especially going into the wildfire dry season, and report that to the proper utilities.

That should be the number one issue in the mission statement, not dIvErSiTy.

If they're dry, make a stink about it. Post it as your mission statement. How many more examples do we need before we wake up to all these systems everywhere breaking down the past 4 to 6 years since meritocracy took a backseat?

That, and the federal oversight controlled burns and pruning have been either denied or not been done at all the past 4 years as well. It's like they want us to suffer.
Fire hydrants are tested all the time, but you generally don’t test all of them at the same time. The issue is of pressurization, like how in some homes if you flush your toilet, suddenly the flow rate of your faucet slows down. Folks would be hollering if they opened their taps and couldn’t get running water because the fire department had all the fire hydrants simultaneously blasting for routine testing.

It is entirely appropriate to be angry at the mayor as the buck ultimately stops with her. But I am not seeing an adequate rationale as to how the fire department chief has failed in her duties, based on a mission statement. Is she incompetent? She might be, but an infrastructure limitation that apparently every fire chief that has filled that role prior to the current one has missed? That’s not it.

If they haven’t been doing adequate controlled burns and she didn’t push back, then yes, that would be an appropriate rationale.
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
Insurance companies pulled out of the area. Folks are having to self insure.

Antifa is being stated as one cause of the fires. Curious that DTLA fire popped off at the same time as Palisades. Diverting resources from one area to another while main event is staged. But, who knows until we know.









Deeply disturbing.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
The mayor could have flown to Ghana a week before anyone knew it was going to get windy.

Of course the question is why is an LA mayor at a Ghanaian inauguration?
She's part of the Biden administration delegation to the Ghanaian inauguration.
 

Ownage

Member
I’ve been watching this lengthy press conference and, if I heard and understood correctly, the lack of water in Pacific Palisades is supposedly because they have two large tanks that supply water to the fire hydrant trunk lines and they ran through it so fast that they lost the pressure needed to move the remaining water through the system. She went on to say that they can’t refill it fast enough to restore pressure so that water is effectively “stuck” in the trunk lines.

Still seems like a ridiculous oversight to not have some redundancy for the system, but my knowledge of city engineering is limited to video game sims. 🤷
Silent protest by DEI administration? Or simply flat out incompetence and negligence. My bet is on the latter, caused by the former.

The optics from the Mayor's Office certainly is not helping soothe fears or concerns at all. Her Fire Chief seems to be competent, but what about the tanks and lack of water. You'd imagine beating the drums loud and proud (subtle pun intended) until they filled the reservoirs. It's not like this is the first fire in the region.
 

Meicyn

Member
Silent protest by DEI administration? Or simply flat out incompetence and negligence. My bet is on the latter, caused by the former.

The optics from the Mayor's Office certainly is not helping soothe fears or concerns at all. Her Fire Chief seems to be competent, but what about the tanks and lack of water. You'd imagine beating the drums loud and proud (subtle pun intended) until they filled the reservoirs. It's not like this is the first fire in the region.
The problem is that in order to increase pressure to fill those tanks fast enough to meet demand, you have to cut off water being used elsewhere that shares the same infrastructure. If that were a viable solution, they’d have done it. That water is still needed elsewhere given the sheer scale of what is happening.


Gutting the fire department’s funding at such a scale is unacceptable in any circumstance, and I hope she sees jail time for what she has done. I’d love to see where she redirected those funds.
 

JayK47

Member
Looks like Hiroshima. Horrible destruction. Dropping a match is as bad as a bomb? With so many fires lately, I feel that many are being started intentionally. Selfishly, I fear my insurance rates will go up because of this. I hope most are able to get to safety. The winds are crazy. And insurance cancelling a week ago? Did they know something?
 
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