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[Rean no Kiseki]

As the title says I am disappointed in YOU! Yes you! In the past few months this place has become GameFAQS 2.0, i mean look at the shit threads that populate the front page and go right this second to any of the consoles boards on GameFAQS and i dare you to spot the difference.

You have a piece of plastic from company A that you prefer over the piece of plastic from company B, woohoo good for you! Now about we talk about games and have some discussion over their pros and cons? "huh.... What’s that? Look here I have a list of games my favorite soulless corporation (corpration A) has a lock on that's not available on that guys plastic box made by soulless corporation B! Haha take that!".

"let me sit back here and slid my hand down my pants Al Bundy style and debate whether soulless corporation A's current leader cares or knows how to run my favorite soulless corporation's games business, no I'm not a share holders dammit but i know how shit works! They should fire that guy's ass he's making my list look bad!"

If you're a" hardcore gamer™/enthusiast™" why do you care about corprations and their business? Go play games and enjoy them instead of bickering over meaningless shit like which these corprations should aquire next or what they should be doing like you got some stake in their success.

I've said my peace, see you dear warriors.

 

[Tesseract]

pc gaming is stable, ain't got time to worry about corpos

 

[Zheph]

I don't mind the warring from time to time but its getting out of control... the number of topic on Bethesda was so ridiculous

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Father

Iu are just getting old.

 

[cireza]

pc gaming is stable

Thanks for reminding OP of corporation C, he forgot to list it in his post.

 

[TintoConCasera]

But have you heard about Game Pass yet?

 

[The Lunch Legend]

wait, Tesseract is back?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Not much can be done about it op.

Try embracing it.

I have done so by getting a series s. There are so many battles to be fought, even ms camp has become s vs x battlefield.

 

[Mmnow]

There's too much warring and not enough game talk...

But it's not exactly raining news specifically about games.

There's also the fact that we've had a week of announcements almost entirely benefitting fans of one console. Octopath Traveller would have had a much warmer reaction here if it had been a neutral announcement (or, let's face it, if it had been coming to PS4/5 only)

 

[Prison Mike]

pc gaming is stable, ain't got time to worry about corpos

Bro welcome back like a phoenix from the mutha fucking flames...

 

[mansoor1980]

i agree with op , bonnie ross is needed as a member of NEOGAF , to keep everything fair and diverse

 

[Banjo64]

But have you heard about Game Pass yet?

And what about The Last of Us 2 winning Oprah Winfrey’s prestigious Game of the Millenia Award™! Haha! Take that haters!

 

[GymWolf]

Who gives a damn, we have Tesseract back with us

 

[cormack12]

It's all just one side versus the other. Good news for one, good news for the other. I mean there are actual headset wars at the moment. The most honest thread I've seen has probably been the one directed at owners of both consoles and which one you play the most. Problem is there is literally no news at all at the moment, really scraping the barrel.

But ultimately it's up to us. Start better topics that outnumber the stupid ones.

 

[Kumomeme]

we need less console war, more about game.

people need to stop desperately try to find winning point for each favourite platform or even lose point of opposite side.

 

[Zheph]

The most honest thread I've seen has probably been the one directed at owners of both consoles and which one you play the most.

nice one

 

[cormack12]

nice one

I see you are proving OPs point. Have you read the thread? Most people in there state an answer then actually give their reasons and there is very little of the shit you see in the DF threads or other disasters. Or is this really a 'I don't like the poll so the thread is shit' post?

 

[Zheph]

I see you are proving OPs point. Have you read the thread? Most people in there state an answer then actually give their reasons and there is very little of the shit you see in the DF threads or other disasters. Or is this really a 'I don't like the poll so the thread is shit' post?

I've read it and most people don't even have both consoles, come on now... maybe there is less big words but its warring

 

[Damigos]

Being a gaming enthusiast means you actually talk about games, reviews, companies aquiring companies, lootboxes ,hardware, new games, old games etc.
You dont only play games. So, OP, go play some games yourself and spare us the mic drop.

 

[cormack12]

I've read it and most people don't even have both consoles, come on now... maybe there is less big words but its warring

Maybe I'm just comparing it to what threads are usually like. It seems to be pretty chilled from what I've read. Whether you believe certain people own both consoles is probably a different issue.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I agree with you OP. Lot's of marketing an warring threads a not many to talk about actual games. At least it makes me appreciate those threads even more.

If you ask me tho I guess it's part of the new gen syndrome: not a lot of new games to play or talk about, so people resort to those kind of conversations to entertain themselves.

And what about The Last of Us 2 winning Oprah Winfrey’s prestigious Game of the Millenia Award™! Haha! Take that haters!

Take a shot each time someone mentions TLOU2 winning an award.

 

[Zheph]

Maybe I'm just comparing it to what threads are usually like. It seems to be pretty chilled from what I've read. Whether you believe certain people own both consoles is probably a different issue.

That's fair enough man, its not as bas as others threads I give you that

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Problem is there is literally no news at all at the moment, really scraping the barrel.

Bethesda purchase, ton of good stuff coming to gamepass, fps boost like magic.

There is ton of news. But its pretty usable as ammunition for war.

It seems intended by MS. Rather well planned.

 

[Chessmate]

Always helps to get both Xbox and PS5. Turns you into a modest, grateful gamer that can enjoy both systems equally. Then again, I'm drowning in everything gamepass has to offer. I'm a happier gamer than ever, with just one console. And to be honest with you guys, I'm in love Phil Spencer.

So OP should understand that Xbox customers may be a little euphoric, even...aroused at the moment. Which may well collide with all the doom and gloom Playstation costumers feel, while they wander through a wasteland of despair without a pip-boy.

Maybe we'll all get a little more rational and laid back in the upcoming months and things will cool down. Or Gaf will explode in a huge fireball at E3. Personally, I can live with both options.

 

[Zheph]

Here is a better example of what OP said, just above cormack12

edit : and it's gone

 

[STARSBarry]

Is this like the OP's first console generation launch or something? This happens every cycle jesus.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Is this like the OP's first console generation launch or something? This happens every cycle jesus.

No, but for a site for enthusiasts who are supposed to be above this petty grade schoolers shit it's embarrassing.

I didn't sign up to list war and brag about sales like some share holder, i signed up because i love some games and wished to talk about them.

Being a gaming enthusiast means you actually talk about games, reviews, companies aquiring companies, lootboxes ,hardware, new games, old games etc.
You dont only play games. So, OP, go play some games yourself and spare us the mic drop.

I rest my case.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

I didn't sign up to list war and brag about sales like some share holder, i signed up because i love some games and wished to talk about them.

 

[Daymos]

Sorry Dad, I'd try to be better.. but this is 2021! Unless you buy me something I'm not going to listen to a word you say.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

I'm trying dude, this thread was meant to be a wake up call, i was tempted to @ several members who engage and agitate each other but i decided against it, you can start too, by not going into threads about things you don't have any interest in and not stirring shit up.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

you can start too, by not going into threads about things you don't have any interest in and not stirring shit up.

Oh, trust me, you like it when I stir it up, baby.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

.

 

[nush]

pc gaming is stable, ain't got time to worry about corpos

Resurrected?

 

[GHG]

i agree with op , bonnie ross is needed as a member of NEOGAF , to keep everything fair and diverse

Mansoor I'm starting to get a little concerned about your Bonnie Ross fetish.

Do I need to introduce you to the ass thread?

 

[mansoor1980]

Mansoor I'm starting to get a little concerned about your Bonnie Ross fetish.

Do I need to introduce you to the ass thread?

i knew it , someone had to judge me , btw been to that thread and already am a fan of vera dijkmans

 

[GHG]

i knew it , someone had to judge me , btw been to that thread and already am a fan of vera dijkmans

 

[Kev Kev]

its never going to stop. its childish, immature and embarrassing to even be loosely associated with it. but if there is anything ive learned in my 20+ years of posting on gaming forums, is that that shit aint never gonna change.

that being said, i think it would be fun if we had a section/subforum dedicated to console warring, because it wouldnt be fair to complete ban or limit users from having "discussions" (lol) like that, and also it can be kind of fun to talk shit and cut up. but that aint never gonna happen either. console wars is just part of gaming forum life and thats all there is to it.

 

[nush]

its never going to stop. its childish, immature and embarrassing to even be loosely associated with it. but if there is anything ive learned in my 20+ years of posting on gaming forums, is that that shit aint never gonna change.

that being said, i think it would be fun if we had a section/subforum dedicated to console warring, because it wouldnt be fair to complete ban or limit users from having "discussions" (lol) like that, and also it can be kind of fun to talk shit and cut up. but that aint never gonna happen either. console wars is just part of gaming forum life and thats all there is to it.

That didn't work out well for the politics section here.

 

[Kev Kev]

That didn't work out well for the politics section here.

 

[DGrayson]

Imagine being a mod with this shit.

Like bro these are games. Yes it is fun to discuss them, even discuss performance difference of multiplats, but the waring is just so strange. So much actual games disucssion is getting skipped over or pushed down to pages 2 and 3 because of it.

 

[DGrayson]

Always helps to get both Xbox and PS5. Turns you into a modest, grateful gamer that can enjoy both systems equally. Then again, I'm drowning in everything gamepass has to offer. I'm a happier gamer than ever, with just one console. And to be honest with you guys, I'm in love Phil Spencer.

So OP should understand that Xbox customers may be a little euphoric, even...aroused at the moment. Which may well collide with all the doom and gloom Playstation costumers feel, while they wander through a wasteland of despair without a pip-boy.

Maybe we'll all get a little more rational and laid back in the upcoming months and things will cool down. Or Gaf will explode in a huge fireball at E3. Personally, I can live with both options.

Be happy, discuss your preferred console. But why denigrate others. If you are cool with GAF exploding you can bounce now TBH.

 

[KungFucius]

It's similar to politics in that it is tribalistic nonsense. Stupid people pick a side and keep digging in and defending it regardless. Any stupid fact or hint of a fact that can be spun as a positive for their side becomes proof that they chose wisely and anything that does the same to the opposite becomes an attack on them that they must defend. And like politics, they don't know much about the other side or value the opinions of those who do. It's moronic because it is highly subjective and if you are picking a console you are making a personal decision that the one you pick makes the best trade offs between games, controller, specs, online system, etc. Clearly most of the waring is from younger people who can't afford to own more than one system and don't have the emotional intelligence to understand that it is just a choice between similar platforms and that there is no "right" choice nor is there any need to defend and evangelize their choice.

Here is my warring comments to the companies: "Fuck Sony for making me buy an ugly $500+tax box with an overpriced controller that will probably fail early like last gen that I will only use to play a few games over the course of the generation. Thank you MS for putting all your games on PC so I can play them how I want without having to buy an extra box for a few games. Fuck you Nintendo for putting games that I really enjoy on hardware that can barely handle them. Fuck you Nvidia, AMD and Intel for your very expensive hardware"

 

[mansoor1980]

It's similar to politics in that it is tribalistic nonsense. Stupid people pick a side and keep digging in and defending it regardless. Any stupid fact or hint of a fact that can be spun as a positive for their side becomes proof that they chose wisely and anything that does the same to the opposite becomes an attack on them that they must defend. And like politics, they don't know much about the other side or value the opinions of those who do. It's moronic because it is highly subjective and if you are picking a console you are making a personal decision that the one you pick makes the best trade offs between games, controller, specs, online system, etc. Clearly most of the waring is from younger people who can't afford to own more than one system and don't have the emotional intelligence to understand that it is just a choice between similar platforms and that there is no "right" choice nor is there any need to defend and evangelize their choice.

 

[Whitecrow]

No human is free from wanting to feel good about his thoughts or tastes.

 

[UnNamed]

We can solve this issue creating some "box threads" with the same subject.

We really don't need 10 threads about leaks from unverified insider who are proven to be fake.

Or the weekly thread about how Nintendo's shareholders are happy on how many Switch are sold every week.

Or the usual "Developer X is woke" thread.

 

[Chessmate]

Be happy, discuss your preferred console. But why denigrate others. If you are cool with GAF exploding you can bounce now TBH.

I like Gaf, because it doesn't mix up art (i.e. games) with politics, which is never a good idea. Been reading here for years, now I'm just teasing the overpopulated Sony crowd a little bit. You guys shouldn't be so sensitive.

Anyway, since you're a mod: Don't really like how you handle things lately. If you look at older threads here every third user is banned. Just because some of you mods don't like his or her opinion, in most cases because you're fanboys yourselves (to be honest).

If you want to establish a place for free speech, you should really reconsider your behaviour and grow up. Constantly threatening users with a ban is immature and misuse of the "power" you have here. Just moderate threads and don't walk around like sadistic prison guards. And don't take yourself so seriously. It's just about video games in here.

 

[turtlepowa]

The problem on GAF is that there are too many fanboys that enjoy hating plastictoys much more than they enjoy gaming itself. Nothing against a litte mocking like the good old Craig pics, but we are far beyond that here. And it's contagious.

If i would start a thread named "Very interesting new indie game XY" i would get like 5 answers-
If i would start a thread named "Person X that nobody knows enjoys console Y more" i would get 10 pages within hours.

I don't mind the warring from time to time but its getting out of control... the number of topic on Bethesda was so ridiculous

Not any worse than sales number or TLOU2 threads.

 

[Zheph]

The problem on GAF is that there are too many fanboys that enjoy hating plastictoys much more than they enjoy gaming itself. Nothing against a litte mocking like the good old Craig pics, but we are far beyond that here. And it's contagious.

If i would start a thread named "Very interesting new indie game XY" i would get like 5 answers-
If i would start a thread named "Person X that nobody knows enjoys console Y more" i would get 10 pages within hours.


Not any worse than sales number or TLOU2 threads.

I agree, it was just the fresher example I had

 

[DGrayson]

I like Gaf, because it doesn't mix up art (i.e. games) with politics, which is never a good idea. Been reading here for years, now I'm just teasing the overpopulated Sony crowd a little bit. You guys shouldn't be so sensitive.

Anyway, since you're a mod: Don't really like how you handle things lately. If you look at older threads here every third user is banned. Just because some of you mods don't like his or her opinion, in most cases because you're fanboys yourselves (to be honest).

If you want to establish a place for free speech, you should really reconsider your behaviour and grow up. Constantly threatening users with a ban is immature and misuse of the "power" you have here. Just moderate threads and don't walk around like sadistic prison guards. And don't take yourself so seriously. It's just about video games in here.

From the guy who goes into an Outer Worlds next gen 60fps patch thread to just post this?

"enjoy, my fellow friends on Playstation. Last Obsidian patch you'll ever get."


I think perhaps you should look in the mirror.

 

[BabyfaceRe]

If you're a" hardcore gamer™/enthusiast™" why do you care about corprations and their business?

Why wouldn't you? Games don't grow on tress they are funded and developed by these businesses. Why wouldn't a hardcore gamer/enthusiast take an interest in those developing games, why wouldn't they research game design to better understand the industry?

Being more informed shouldn't be seen as a bad thing, in fact it would save a lot of the awful takes made on here.

Console wars are dumb, real hardcores dont take part because they know that games always trump platform, to hardcores this is obv, the pettiness of fanboyism is usually easy to spot.

But you should care , you really should.