Razgriz-Specter
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SCEA should stay focused on PS3 just like they have been.
U:GA was SCEA bra
Unit 13 by Zipper was also from SCEA
Sony E3 2012 Conference Thread
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U:GA was SCEA bra
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WX3
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They are trying to grab as much cash as possible in the last year of production and AAA exclusives with the quality of these titles is the best way to do it. But your are right, imagine TLOU on a true next-gen machine.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
It's Vita who needs attention not the PS3. You're right about Bend and Zipper.
Impeccable
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Yeah, I really can't comprehend people saying it was bad, when MS was going they said, "Where are the games?!" and we get 90% games and people shit on it and say it was just as bad and how E3 this year is in the shitter.
I enjoyed it, yes, the Wonderbook thing went on too long but at least it has a place in the conference.
Wait is that confirmed that, that is what Europe gets ? Source ?
demigod
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I agree, MS conference was fucking worse. Apps, seriously? Smartglass? That shit will bomb.
Oh and SCEA can go eff themselves. I hated them during PS2 and I still hate them now.
I legitimately think you're right and this is an active strategy. They barely acknowledged Vita's existence but then spent a bit of time explaining PlayStation Mobile and their new hardware partnership. I think they're actually listening to analysts and choosing to focus on smartphones and tablets, and because they have that to fall back on aren't afraid of throwing Vita under the bus for a year.
I wonder if that's the true explanation for that rumored Gaikai/OnLive deal. Vita games on all PlayStation Certified devices, with streaming for those that aren't powerful enough to run them natively.
test_account
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Wow, now i see why someone said that it was wise to get a PS+ subscription. I saw that someone was laughing at the hype around PS+ before E3, but i guess that Sony got the last laugh in this case
There were a couple of things I liked about Sony's conference but a lot of things I didn't. What I liked the most was that they mostly stayed away from showing video montages that was pretty surprising.
Nothing for Vita is pretty much the biggest let down for me. We get one Assassin's Creed 3 game but it doesn't seem like that's a game Ubisoft is really focusing on. It's made by a developer that isn't known to put out high quality products and while they could potentially make a great game, I just don't want to get my hopes up. Previous installments of Assasin's Creed on portables were just not good and what we've seen doesn't really indicate that it's a 'full' experience.
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 for Vita was weird. Less than six months until the game is supposed to release and they can't show anything at all? That's not good. When one team is able to show a lengthy gameplay demo and the other team is not able to show anything then that's incredibly bad. Not even a teaser trailer, no screenshots. Nothing.
Besides, we've known about AC and a Call of Duty game prior to the conference so there was absolutely nothing new here.
The announcement of PSOne Classics was also really weird. Seemed to me like not all games were going to work and the fact that they can't even give a release date just makes me think they don't really know what they're doing. How can a emulator that was announced back when the handheld was called NGP not be ready yet? That's just not good.
Nothing about Vita firmware updates that would finally allow my PS3 to properly communicate with the device.
What they've shown for the PS3 was okay. The Last of Us was good but the presentation was not as outstanding as the Uncharted 2 was a few years ago. They spent way too much time on the Wonderbook game that no one in the audience or at home cares about. The game might be fun to kids and relevant to parents but these people are not the target audience of E3.
I also didn't see much of Sony's 'One Sony' strategy. I kind of expected that they'd announce there to be one store for all western regions (like Xbox Live) though that seems to be wishful thinking at this point. No re-design of the PS Store was also a let-down. The PS+ announcement was not bad but also not what I expected. Ignoring Vita completely is obviously not good. It didn't have to be free games but cloud saving or something like that would have been really nice.
Nothing for Vita is pretty much the biggest let down for me. We get one Assassin's Creed 3 game but it doesn't seem like that's a game Ubisoft is really focusing on. It's made by a developer that isn't known to put out high quality products and while they could potentially make a great game, I just don't want to get my hopes up. Previous installments of Assasin's Creed on portables were just not good and what we've seen doesn't really indicate that it's a 'full' experience.
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 for Vita was weird. Less than six months until the game is supposed to release and they can't show anything at all? That's not good. When one team is able to show a lengthy gameplay demo and the other team is not able to show anything then that's incredibly bad. Not even a teaser trailer, no screenshots. Nothing.
Besides, we've known about AC and a Call of Duty game prior to the conference so there was absolutely nothing new here.
The announcement of PSOne Classics was also really weird. Seemed to me like not all games were going to work and the fact that they can't even give a release date just makes me think they don't really know what they're doing. How can a emulator that was announced back when the handheld was called NGP not be ready yet? That's just not good.
Nothing about Vita firmware updates that would finally allow my PS3 to properly communicate with the device.
What they've shown for the PS3 was okay. The Last of Us was good but the presentation was not as outstanding as the Uncharted 2 was a few years ago. They spent way too much time on the Wonderbook game that no one in the audience or at home cares about. The game might be fun to kids and relevant to parents but these people are not the target audience of E3.
I also didn't see much of Sony's 'One Sony' strategy. I kind of expected that they'd announce there to be one store for all western regions (like Xbox Live) though that seems to be wishful thinking at this point. No re-design of the PS Store was also a let-down. The PS+ announcement was not bad but also not what I expected. Ignoring Vita completely is obviously not good. It didn't have to be free games but cloud saving or something like that would have been really nice.
FlashFlooder
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Can someone please tell me what music was playing when they introduced beyond: two souls???
I know it from somewhere and it's bugging me.
I know it from somewhere and it's bugging me.
criesofthepast
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Little Old Man
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Yeah I certainly don't think it was awful by any means. The PS3 side of things along with services like PSN plus were fine. The problem was the overly long game demos for Far Cry and the spell book thing.
I was shocked though by the Vita side of things too. I expected much more- not even a short teaser for COD or Bioshock? No Killzone? No FFX HD for Vita? Hardly anything infact. Certainly glad I never purchased a Vita now, as it feels like it is going to struggle to get itself going now.
No streaming services either? Guess that was never true in the first place?
FlashFlooder
Member
Can someone please tell me what music was playing when they introduced beyond: two souls???
I know it from somewhere and it's bugging me.
I know it from somewhere and it's bugging me.
Problem is wonderbook was the 33,333% of the conference.
A thing without future (like Eyepet, eye of judgement) and just a little related with videogames.That on the "super bowl" of the videogames is, at least, sad.
I still want to know how the industry went mad with stories about it and then all got it completely wrong.
That is baffling indeed. All there demos where long. They need to shorten them and move one. Sony has a ton of content to show but instead bloated the other games times to lengthen the show.
it is crazy good deal... i would have never go ps+ since lately i dont have time for games but for small monthly sub you get 3 real games this month alone?
yes, you can play them as long as your sub is active...if you cancel sub and re-sub 10 months from then, you will again be able to play games you got for "free" while you had active subscription.
this is best deal in console gaming, ever.
to get JKR behind it they probably had to give them enough media exposure...
Other than that, Last of us looked freaking amazing.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Exactly how I felt. I didn't need an hour long presentation on that shit. Especially when half the time the people couldn't get the gestures right. I hope Jack Tretton was backstage doing shots thinking "why the fuck did I let them on the stage?"
If they would have replaced Wonderbook with more Vita / PS+ stuff, it would have been a much better conference.
Still, seeing The Last of Us made the whole thing worth it, and I think I'm really gonna enjoy PS All Stars.
I really like the free games with PS+. I think it will get a lot of people to jump on board. Still, I think they really should have announced some sort of plan for PS+ on the Vita. Anything to help the Vita along will be good. I can't believe how much they ignored it at the conference. Fucking shocking. If it didn't have Uncharted, WipeOut, and Hot Shots Golf; I would regret owning the thing.
Animation-Imp
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Fuck bought half of those games full price and hav'nt even gotten around to playing them yet.
Shame on me for being such a hoarder I guess.
The other half still is more than welcome though.
Had to go to bed after the conference, but I'll recap my thoughts now the thread's moving at a more modest pace. It's safe to say that those sugar coating this conference aren't going to be happy with me.
It was as bad as Microsofts.
- Beyond. Now I enjoyed Heavy Rain. I might've enjoyed a gameplay presentation of Beyond. As it is we got what amounted to nothing more than a cutscene, and a trailer filled with cutscenes. We were also expected to draw amazement at Ellen Page, but quite honestly it doesn't do anything for me. There are plenty of actresses who could've done a stellar job, and at least then I won't be watching them thinking about Juno and Inception.
- AC3. We saw it at Ubisoft just 2 hours prior. Sure it was a different demo, but I'd already had my AC3 quota for the day.
- Far Cry 3. Same as AC3. Just seen it. And this demo looked terrible.
- Battle Royale. Creatively bankrupt ripoff centring around a weak cast of characters. My impressions of this are as low as they were when the game was announced.
- 30 minute void where I wanted to tear my eyes out. Was more grinding than the Microsoft conference because at least they moved at a good speed, so even though I don't give a shit about hockey, I wasn't stuck watching it for 20 minutes.
- God of War. If someone said it was DLC for God of War 3 nobody would dispute it. Fact. Sums up how apathetic I was towards it, and that's as someone who thought God of War 3 was a decent game and nothing more. I'm certainly not clamouring to return to the franchise with this.
- The Last of Us. Amazing. Fantastic demonstration with great pacing and genuine tension.
It was as bad as Microsofts.
- Beyond. Now I enjoyed Heavy Rain. I might've enjoyed a gameplay presentation of Beyond. As it is we got what amounted to nothing more than a cutscene, and a trailer filled with cutscenes. We were also expected to draw amazement at Ellen Page, but quite honestly it doesn't do anything for me. There are plenty of actresses who could've done a stellar job, and at least then I won't be watching them thinking about Juno and Inception.
- AC3. We saw it at Ubisoft just 2 hours prior. Sure it was a different demo, but I'd already had my AC3 quota for the day.
- Far Cry 3. Same as AC3. Just seen it. And this demo looked terrible.
- Battle Royale. Creatively bankrupt ripoff centring around a weak cast of characters. My impressions of this are as low as they were when the game was announced.
- 30 minute void where I wanted to tear my eyes out. Was more grinding than the Microsoft conference because at least they moved at a good speed, so even though I don't give a shit about hockey, I wasn't stuck watching it for 20 minutes.
- God of War. If someone said it was DLC for God of War 3 nobody would dispute it. Fact. Sums up how apathetic I was towards it, and that's as someone who thought God of War 3 was a decent game and nothing more. I'm certainly not clamouring to return to the franchise with this.
- The Last of Us. Amazing. Fantastic demonstration with great pacing and genuine tension.
You sound like a nintendo fan doing the gamecube days.
That dude from sony said point blank that it was for the fans and this was their superbowl. I don't want to hear it.
Parmenides
Banned
PS3 is the breadwinner because it sells software (unlike Sony handhelds)
Good luck with that
Straight from the horse's mouth
S3 kind of mid-stream (Earnings Call - May 10, 2012)GameStop: Hardware Launch in 2014 (Earnings Call - March 22, 2012)
Sidewinder
Member
AFAIR Gaikai mentioned that they were preparing a gamechanger for E3 or something, that maybe turned out to be the deal with Samsung.
The rumour about Sony partnering or buying a streaming company could just be the HTC "partnership".
Both combined and you get: "Sony buys Gaika - PS1/2 compatiblity through streaming - PS4 is already dead..." just my 2 cents.
To me, Microsoft's tentpole gameplay demos (Splinter Cell, Tomb Raider and Resident Evil 6) looked very similar to each other, all QTE-heavy third-person shooters. BLOPS2 also looked like every other Call of Duty game ever released. Madden and Fifa looked like... well, Madden and Fifa.
I'm not saying MS was bad, but to me, a lot of the demos were all "been there, done that." You could argue that for much of what Sony showed (PSBR, GOWA) but the fact that they were showing new IPs across a variety of hardcore genres got me much more interested than what MS showed.
Just my personal opinion, and again, I thought both conferences were awful - Sony was the cruise ship that flipped over earlier this year, compared to the full-on Titanic.
gutterboy44
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The conference was mediocre, but fine. We know the next gen is looming and they are going to throw out all of the little things to prolong it's life and unfortunately at this phase, it tends to not be a bunch of crazy new games, those are being worked on for next gen. I consider MS and Sony's conference fairly equal in that regard. However, Sony does have some new hardware, the fucking Vita, and you would have thought that was even deeper in it's life cylce than the PS3 based on the attention it got.
My PS3 will be LOU, all the free PS+ games and maybe GTA V depending on PC status. It had a good run, bring on PS4. My poor Vita.
My PS3 will be LOU, all the free PS+ games and maybe GTA V depending on PC status. It had a good run, bring on PS4. My poor Vita.
Sidewinder
Member
Because it's already dead!
dragonfart28
Banned
For anyone hoping for next gen (on Sony/MS consoles) any time soon - don't hold your breath.
devilinanewdress
Banned
Why was there a thread dedicated to the slating of game journalists at the conference just for cheering some freebies? Game criticism is largely a redundant practise, that's why even the best practitioners (Edge, KillScreen) aren't afforded their dues. As for cheering at the free PSN card announcement, give them a break! If anyone from GAF was in the audience I'm sure their reaction would haven been no less enthusiastic.
If someone tried to throw Saints Row 2 at me I'd dodge it.
SolsticeZero
Banned
It's been stated that most of the cheering in the audience was from the 200 fans that Sony let into the conference, and not from the journalists.
*brofist*
devilinanewdress
Banned
lol fair point.
somesayyea
Member
conference had quite a few outright dull moments, but I thought beyond looked super interesting, GOW was cool, and the last of us was simply amazing.
yurinka
Member
Other 33,333% was the lack of more Vita games (even if they showed good stuff for it), and the other 33,333% was the missing stuff like Agent, FFXIII Versus or Last Guardian. I would have reduced the Wonderbook and Farcry 3 demos to put this stuff.
Besides that, the conference was pretty solid even if almost everything was leaked or shown previously. No great surprises for Gaffers but they announced or shown gameplay for the first time of prettty solid stuff.
fluffydelusions
Member
beyond + last of us were the only good parts of the show IMO.
Fixed.
I know a lot of the crash is because all of their pre-conference rumors were so grandiose and neat, but at least throw me some KH3 action. <---- WiiU?
plagiarize
Banned
agreed, but they were very good parts i thought. i'm sure i'm going to hate beyond when it comes out though, because i'm sure the story will completely fall apart, but at least it shows that they've got really good actors to mitigate the cliched dialogue somewhat this time, which is going to be a big help.
what was that flash of Portal stuff in the opening montage by the way? DLC? I swear I hadn't seen a big oblong box capable of hitting two buttons at once anywhere in the Portal 2 I played, but I can't find anyone online talking about new Portal stuff for PS3, so I'm really not sure what I saw.
bigboss370
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i liked the conference overall but two things i wish were there that weren't:
- a new Guerrilla Games title, new IP or Killzone 4
- a new Metal Gear Solid from Kojima
- a new Guerrilla Games title, new IP or Killzone 4
- a new Metal Gear Solid from Kojima
ElectricBlanketFire
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You can get my 6 year old nephew to explain the difference between a book and actual flames.
Huevos de Oro
Member
I liked what I saw of AC III (probably because I didn't get to watch the Ubi presser, had I been able to I'm sure I would have been much less wowed), Beyond showed some promise but there was no gameplay to be seen, Last of Us was probably the high point of the conference, even if at times it felt like Uncharted with different player skins. That spell book thing was atrocious, not so much because of the concept of it but because of the ungodly amounts of time devoted to the presentation and the clumsiness of the whole thing.
That woman is going to be fired.
Adults apparently need to be warned that Coffee is hot. Regardless Even if kids can tell the difference, it's still stupid. They could have cast a water spell, or closed the book or put a blanket over it. Something other then bat it with your bare hands.
