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Sony has $10 billion left to spend on acquisitions through 2023
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Fortnite made $9 billion in 2018 + 2019. I'm sure they made a few billion in 2020 + 2021. Then who knows how much they make over the next few years.
Do you think Sony and Bungie view Fortnite as the pinnacle of game design?
Games are now capable of making $20+ billion. Marvel movies now view the gaming industry with jealousy. If Bungies next franchise hits big...3 billion will be considered a steal.
And here's the thing. Sony knows what Bungie is working on.
Remedy has no expertise in multiplayer. The money isn't going towards single player studios right now.
RevGaming
Member
Because Sony Japan was dead weight. There, I said it.
Sony fanboys begging for Capcom……Jimbo sold Sony Japan Studio, why would he go back to buying a Japanese company?? Jimbo doesn’t like Japan and that is obvious
If there’s anyone buying Capcom it’s Nintendo
EDIT: sorry, I didn't mean to say 'sold', I meant shut-down
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Sony and Microsoft have already made the biggest investments they are going to make this year. Amazon is up next.
rickybooby87
Member
From the looks of it, large purchases may have already been made? Not sure what they could have spent 8 Billion on thus far (6 something if minus Bungie)
ethomaz
Banned
Remedy market cap is around $500 million.
KingGhidorah
Banned
ICO, Shadow of Colossus, Gravity Rush, The Last Guardian, co-developed THE Demon's Souls.......dead weight?!? ....OK then go buy EA or something
Loxus
Member
I don't know why but a company that would make sense is Bandai Namco.
It feels like Bandai Namco would go good with Crunchyroll with all the Anime stuff.
Only thing it has a Market Cap of 16.13 Billion, which may end up being 20 billion to purchase.
Other than Bandai Namco, there is
Konami: 7.14 B
Square Enix: 5.91 B
Capcom: 5.14 B
It feels like Bandai Namco would go good with Crunchyroll with all the Anime stuff.
Only thing it has a Market Cap of 16.13 Billion, which may end up being 20 billion to purchase.
Other than Bandai Namco, there is
Konami: 7.14 B
Square Enix: 5.91 B
Capcom: 5.14 B
Thirty7ven
Banned
Ship has sailed, it’s an arms race right now.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Base level corporate speak. I don’t think Nintendo would let Sony buy Capcom without a bidding war. Monster Hunter is too big in JP and Nintendo owns basically that entire market.
Notice MH Rise didn’t come to ps4 when the work was already done for a HD version on PC.
RevGaming
Member
Hawking Radiation
Member
YOU - BEE - SOFT
OOH - BEE - SOFT
Whatever the fuck you wanna call it,
Please for the love of God Jimbo. Make it happen.
MAKE
IT
HAPPEN !!!
OOH - BEE - SOFT
Whatever the fuck you wanna call it,
Please for the love of God Jimbo. Make it happen.
MAKE
IT
HAPPEN !!!
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Unknown?
Member
It wasn't shut down either. Get your facts straight.
Sony fanboys begging for Capcom……Jimbo sold Sony Japan Studio, why would he go back to buying a Japanese company?? Jimbo doesn’t like Japan and that is obvious
If there’s anyone buying Capcom it’s Nintendo
EDIT: sorry, I didn't mean to say 'sold', I meant shut-down
kyliethicc
Member
BTW, this is the simple summary.
Sony said they were gonna spend 17 billion.
They've spent about 7 so far. PlayStation got about 37% of that.
With 10 bil left, that would meaning PlayStation might have like 3-5 billion left to spend. (Assuming their split of the money stays similar.)
Sony said they were gonna spend 17 billion.
They've spent about 7 so far. PlayStation got about 37% of that.
With 10 bil left, that would meaning PlayStation might have like 3-5 billion left to spend. (Assuming their split of the money stays similar.)
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TheGodfather07
Member
i hate this aquisition shit but i wouldnt mind if someone saves konami ip. the problem is, who would want to buy the whole of konami just for a few games?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
These games + IP are dead weight. Jim Ryan doesn't post on message boards going gaga over critically acclaimed games that sell 1.7 million copies. Those games do very little for PlayStation.
The race is for 20 billion dollar games now. The heavyweight era is upon us. Bantomweights don't draw numbers anymore.
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Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
it's not just about the Japan Studio issue, Sony is known to alienating Japanese fanbase and developers.
".....Sony has not only not made the appropriate efforts to cultivate the Japanese market, but has, in fact, done everything in its power to alienate and diminish it. From closing its local in-house Japanese development studio to imposing arbitrary content and administrative restrictions on Japanese games and game creators, to simply arrogantly throwing their weight around, with things as trivial as their reversal of the X and O button functions in the PlayStation UI and the lack of support extended to local developers, Sony has been burning bridges with a lot of Japanese developers and publishers for a while now....."
Whether they're alientating the Japan fanbase is irrelevent. Capcom are a westernised publisher now
Hitchyhero
Banned
But will it be organic?
Wooxsvan
Member
RevGaming
Member
Kind off. They had to westernized Monster Hunter for people to finally realize how good MH has always been. Resident Evil with its games and movies too.
Are there more Americans playing in SF cups?
KingGhidorah
Banned
Bloodborne only sold for 2-millions unit, so it's what you call bantom weights, but then why Sony fanboys begging for Bloodborne 2??? (BY Blue Point no less....hahahaha talk about fake Bloodborne)
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Hawking Radiation
Member
I don't like it too but its now the name of the game.
Nothing can stop MS and Sony gobbling up whatever's out there. Crazy times we live in.
Would've thought Kojima would be under Sony's umbrella by now considering the history with them and MGS series of games.
Kojima could very well end up at Xbox too lol.
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yurinka
Member
Capcom next, Jimbo
After Bungie, the Fate/Grand Order studio, Housemarque, Bluepoint, Firesprite Crunchyroll and so on they have $10B left if they don't review it.
Their budget from April 2021 to April 2024 was $17.4 billion.
After Bungie, the Fate/Grand Order studio, Housemarque, Bluepoint, Firesprite Crunchyroll and so on they have $10B left if they don't review it.
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Kokoloko85
Member
I thought they had 18billion before the bungie deal
RevGaming
Member
Keep saying Capcom. I'm sure Jimbo is watching this.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
On their pro tour site for 2021 there were 6 qualifiers from the USA with Japan behind them with 4
No clue if i'm looking at the right thing though. Not well versed in e-sports
Thirty7ven
Banned
Most of them are banking on another smaller impact acquisition, a lot of them hoping it’s just SE or Konami even if that would hurt a bit, all of them gonna turn into cry babies when it’s Capcom.
yurinka
Member
I just texted him, he'll read it tomorrow
18B (17.4B) was in April. For 7.4B they bought Crunchroll, some Indian tv folks, Housemarque, Bluepoint, Firesprite, Fabrik, Nixxes, Valkyrie Bungie and someone else plus 5% of Devolver and invested $200M on Epic plus something else.
There's 10B left to spend on acquisitions and investments in the next couple of years, but they can always review the budget and increase it.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Ill be happy with Capcom, Sega or Square. Capcom makes the most sense
Capcom has Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, DMC, plus plenty of other IP’s
Sega: Gives them loads of JRPG’s like Persona, SMT, Disgaea. Plus Yakuza, Virtua Fighter, Streets of Rage. PC centric games like Total War and Football Manager. Plus loads of IP’s like Sonic, Phantasy Star Online or Offline etc.
Square Obviously has Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest. Loads of other IP’s and the likes of Hitman, Deus Ex, Tomb Raider
I was happy with how Sony use to only buy studios they worked with exclusively for years making their own IP, but I guess this needs to happen
Hobbygaming
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It's funny how Sony is supposedly doing Japanese developers wrong but they still get the most 3rd party support from Japanit's not just about the Japan Studio issue, Sony is known to alienating Japanese fanbase and developers.
".....Sony has not only not made the appropriate efforts to cultivate the Japanese market, but has, in fact, done everything in its power to alienate and diminish it. From closing its local in-house Japanese development studio to imposing arbitrary content and administrative restrictions on Japanese games and game creators, to simply arrogantly throwing their weight around, with things as trivial as their reversal of the X and O button functions in the PlayStation UI and the lack of support extended to local developers, Sony has been burning bridges with a lot of Japanese developers and publishers for a while now....."
RevGaming
Member
So pretty westernized. I know Capcom is bigger in Japan than Sony. Everything Capcom and Square tops the famitsu charts.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Just buy some big Japanese Publisher and Ill be happy lol
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yeah, they're still big in Japan no doubt. They'd help them regain some ground over there, but the real value would still be they have a global appeal.
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RevGaming
Member
I hope ms fans realize MS started something stupid (and they say they will keep going and fans want them to keep going) and in the end both make trades with each other. Like AB/Bethesda games for some of Capcom/Stop making SE games timed. If the competition is Google, Amazon, they would make these buys multiplatform, right? right?
Making they're taking turns so the FTC doesn't suspect anything.
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KingGhidorah
Banned
it has started to change, many of smaller Japanese devs now are exclusively Switch
Kokoloko85
Member
I think Sony is making a big effort in Japan atm, getting Final Fantasy exclusive since the PS2 days is big. Persona 6 exclusive rumours. And Pragmata are all Japanese games. Hopefully more ontop of another Kojima and Miyazaki games.
People who think Sony has left Japanese are silly. They are just putting their resources into Japanese Studios differently.
Although I do miss games like Gravity Rush and The Last Guardian etc
yurinka
Member
They are not alienating anybody in Japan, it's just the haters spreading lies and fud.it's not just about the Japan Studio issue, Sony is known to alienating Japanese fanbase and developers.
".....Sony has not only not made the appropriate efforts to cultivate the Japanese market, but has, in fact, done everything in its power to alienate and diminish it. From closing its local in-house Japanese development studio to imposing arbitrary content and administrative restrictions on Japanese games and game creators, to simply arrogantly throwing their weight around, with things as trivial as their reversal of the X and O button functions in the PlayStation UI and the lack of support extended to local developers, Sony has been burning bridges with a lot of Japanese developers and publishers for a while now....."
Every single known Japanese 3rd party has made at least a PS4 exclusive and published their multiplatform games on PS. Jimbo said PS5 will have more exclusives than any previous PS console, and since most of their exclusives are 3rd party, this means there will be more 3rd party exclusives too. This gen we already saw many exclusives from ARC System Works, Kojipro, Kadokawa, Tango or specially Square to name some. Jimbo also said they were strengthening bonds with Japanese companies, remember as an example their deal with Kadokawa or that they hired that Capcom guy to helps with Japanese 3rd parties.
They didn't close Japan Studio, it was splitted into two studios:
-Team Asobi: internal development that merged all Japan Studio internal development teams and is growing with open job positions in a dozen different areas
-XDEV Japan: they are the ones who published Japanese 2nd party stuff inside Japan studio, outside will continue doing the same (they published Death Stranding Director's Cut outside Japan Studio) but now reporting to XDEV like the other XDEV teams around the world instead of reporting to a local studio
Polyphony will release GT7 next month, their biggest game ever.
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RevGaming
Member
Tell him I'll buy SF5 champion edition if he proceeds.
Kokoloko85
Member
Why not? They probably have more exclusives together with Capcom not including Pragmata and maybe Street Fighter.
They have put money in FF16 exclusive and FF7 Remakes etc and Forspoken.
Hobbygaming
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Google is not even looking to increase their 1st party and we don't even really know Amazon's plans for gamingPlus, in a bid war, i don't think Sony can compete with Google and Amazon
ethomaz
Banned
37% of 7.4b doesn't even cover Bungie...
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Hobbygaming
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That's funny seeing how I still see many smaller Japanese titles hit PSN
RevGaming
Member
I think Capcom fits better because they're a bit more global than SE. They can get help from Sony pictures for those atrocious Series/Movies Capcom has made (Uncharted will suck so, hey, maybe that's why they should be together, they suck at TV gaming adaptations).
Capcom is more focused on graphics vs SE and you know Sony knows this is a selling point. Capcom may learn how to make a GaaS with the help of Bungie (I guess?). They've tried with RE multiplayers so many times lol.
Then there's EVO and Sony not having a fighting studio (PS all stars 2 or a Marvel vs Capcom/Playstation could be cool).
Dragon Dogma checks the RPG sony needs and RE is for horror/survival horror. MH checks the co-op.
SE makes sense too, but it's mostly JRPG and the female Nathan Drake and Xbox has no pull there anyways. They already wasted $ on many timed exclusives I bet.
I think Capcom makes more sense for MS since it's more westernized so this is a defensive move. Plus Sony will make that back in a year.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I still think Sony is better off making targeted acquisitions rather than big publishers (Japanese or otherwise)
Think: Team Kojima (pretty obvious)
FromSoft may be small enough but they also have a lot of baggage with their parent company
CDPR but the valuation is a bad deal and the owners won’t likely sell
Parts of Warner like Rocksteady? (GaaS)
I just can’t see Square, Capcom, Ubisoft, etc being worth acquiring unless they are at risk of being acquired
Think: Team Kojima (pretty obvious)
FromSoft may be small enough but they also have a lot of baggage with their parent company
CDPR but the valuation is a bad deal and the owners won’t likely sell
Parts of Warner like Rocksteady? (GaaS)
I just can’t see Square, Capcom, Ubisoft, etc being worth acquiring unless they are at risk of being acquired