Soul Sacrifice Review Thread

Maybe the games got better too?

Unite is just Freedom 2 with more content IIRC. If outlets didn't like it the first time around a re-release with more of the same shouldn't have netted reviews better by 10% especially since content is not a problem with Monster Hunter games.
 
People going crazy with the demo putting hours and hours on it and some reviewers give it only 6! Lol
I guess this is the curse of being a vita game.

I don't think the platform has anything to do with it. It does seem to get the short end of the stick in multiplat reviews (where it is negatively compared to consoles rather than given credit as a handheld), but I can't say as I've noticed a conspiracy against the Vita in general.
 
As a guy who is on the fence about getting a Vita for Soul Sacrifice and has no experience with the demo or anything, I'd like to know what exactly is wrong with what was written in the reviews and if someone could clear up any factual errors and misconceptions they may have made. I have no idea what anyone is saying on both sides and have no point of reference.

Some people say repetitiveness, some people say depth.
Some people say weird art, some people say original.
Nobody is really right or wrong, beacuse it's a matter of preferences.

But also,
Some people say single player, some people say sp + mp.
Some people say monster hunter clone, some people say the game has it's own rules.

If you have been deceived by reviews before, you should at least try the demo (including the mp, which will take you a few hours).

On the other hand, Vita has plenty to offer you, not just Soul Sacrifice. My guess is that SS will have a relatively strong and durable multiplayer community.
 
As a guy who is on the fence about getting a Vita for Soul Sacrifice and has no experience with the demo or anything, I'd like to know what exactly is wrong with what was written in the reviews and if someone could clear up any factual errors and misconceptions they may have made. I have no idea what anyone is saying on both sides and have no point of reference.

Their main complaint is that the game was "tedious" when it is in fact a monster hunting game. This genre is all about playing missions (often the same ones, because you must learn the enemies) with different people and getting materials and making yourself stronger. Basically, this is a lazy excuse by the reviewer because he doesn't like the style of game itself.

Polgyon also says it has "dull combat mechanics" which absolutely isn't true. Every hour I played the demo I learned something new.

Soul Sacrifice truly is something special. Don't listen to the ignorant reviewers.
 
Seems like the kind of game reviewers will give average scores to because they recognize the good, they just don't appreciate it. Dragon's Dogma is the same. You have to see eye to eye with the game and appreciate what the game is going for and you'll be able to forgive and even forget the downsides and let the good shine through.

I could be wrong though, I haven't even played the demo yet, but I'm definitely gonna check it out for myself.
 
Portable tax + a style of game that tends to get crapped on overall in reviews. Not unexpected. You can certainly tell the reviewers who had a clue about what they were playing VS. the ones that were getting that review out. That Polygon review is embarrassing. Their reviews are such a weak part of that site.
 
Yea, another Vita game getting dumped on. I hope people don't take theae reviews seriously. Play the demo people. The genre isn't for everybody that's for sure (most genres aren't for everybody), but it is a great game and very well put together.

There is nothing average about this game. Then again it is all in the eye of the beholder I suppose. I just think none of these reviewers even wanted to review a Vita game though, and that stigma has an effect. Even the Vita version of MLB the Show gets more than a whole point downgrade for just being on the Vita.
 
Unite is just Freedom 2 with more content IIRC. If outlets didn't like it the first time around a re-release with more of the same shouldn't have netted reviews better by 10% especially since content is not a problem with Monster Hunter games.
That's pretty funny, actually.
 
I've been looking forward to this game since the day it was announced but I haven't played the demo much (assumed I was getting the game plus I've been busy with other games). I'll be honest, these reviews are a little discouraging, but I'm thinking this is one of those times when I'll find a lot more to love than the average reviewer. Heck, I'm having more fun with Dragon's Dogma: DA than I had with TR or BI, so western-centric reviews don't usually align with my tastes too well.

I think I just need to throw caution to the wind and take the plunge.
 
I've been looking forward to this game since the day it was announced but I haven't played the demo much (assumed I was getting the game plus I've been busy with other games). I'll be honest, these reviews are a little discouraging, but I'm thinking this is one of those times when I'll find a lot more to love than the average reviewer. Heck, I'm having more fun with Dragon's Dogma: DA than I had with TR or BI, so western-centric reviews don't usually align with my tastes too well.

I think I just need to throw caution to the wind and take the plunge.

Just play the demo more. No need to shell out money. If you like the demo you will like the game.
 
I know everyone has different opinions, but based upon my impressions of the demo, 6/10 is way too low for a game of this calibre. I really hope these scores don't deter people from buying the game....

Can't wait 'till Friday!
 
Just play the demo more. No need to shell out money. If you like the demo you will like the game.
My demo progress will carry over to the game even if I buy a physical copy, right? In that case that would be the smart thing to do, but I have this weird mental hurdle where I don't really want to dump huge hours into a game until after I've purchased it.
 
Wait, they didn't have access to MP? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That is literally half or perhaps more than half the game. Lol

Phenomenal.

Lol, that's probably why a lot of reviewers mentioned "repetition".

Do people who review fighting games ever mention repetition? Because its basically the same.
 
My demo progress will carry over to the game even if I buy a physical copy, right? In that case that would be the smart thing to do, but I have this weird mental hurdle where I don't really want to dump huge hours into a game until after I've purchased it.
Yes it will. Just be sure not to delete the demo before importing your save file into the full version.
 
My demo progress will carry over to the game even if I buy a physical copy, right? In that case that would be the smart thing to do, but I have this weird mental hurdle where I don't really want to dump huge hours into a game until after I've purchased it.

It does. I've clocked 30+ hours into the demo alone. I wouldn't have done that if that progress was lost.

Don't forget multiplayer though. Try and also play with Gaffers. Randoms can be annoying.
 
My demo progress will carry over to the game even if I buy a physical copy, right? In that case that would be the smart thing to do, but I have this weird mental hurdle where I don't really want to dump huge hours into a game until after I've purchased it.

Those review scores for a game like this should not deter you at all. Anyone who expected much different was kidding themselves. MH3U has Nintendo marketing and was localized by some rad guys that got it a lot of exposure with their podcast. It still gets mostly 8-8.5's.
 
Dont the better better reviews usually start at the top... Seeing 6.5 initially gave me an oh shit moment and had me thinking that was the best..

Its not the best game but most of these reviews seem like they didnt even play it. This was my first mon hunter game and id give it an 8. Based on thd demo alone.
 
Wait, they didn't have access to MP? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That is literally half or perhaps more than half the game. Lol

Phenomenal.
Some did some didn't apparently. I've just read the Destructoid review, and I can't understand the thinking that the draw of the game is the SP - I honestly couldn't agree less with that statement and I'm HEAVILY SP focused 99% of the time.
 
They should have gotten multiple copies of the game and played ad hoc.

I can imagine the reviews would be much better.

"Soul Sacrifice is a wonderful, fun co-op experience".
 
They should have gotten multiple copies of the game and played ad hoc.

I can imagine the reviews would be much better.

"Soul Sacrifice is a wonderful, fun co-op experience".
There's a screenie in the Destructoid review at least that shows ad-hoc being played. Ad-hoc is even better than the online MP. <3
 
Some did some didn't apparently. I've just read the Destructoid review, and I can't understand the thinking that the draw of the game is the SP - I honestly couldn't agree less with that statement and I'm HEAVILY SP focused 99% of the time.

the SP is really good.. I like the story and the way you progress. I think I like the SP so much, that if the game didn´t even have MP, I wouldn´t miss it.
 
It's the curse of being a "hunting action" game. Monster Hunter received mediocre reviews until the series exploded in popularity in Japan, and then scores magically improved.

Monster Hunter: 68/100
Monster Hunter Freedom: 71/100
Monster Hunter Freedom 2: 72/100
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite: 81/100
Monster Hunter Tri: 84/100
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 82/100 & 79/100

MH also got better entry after entry.
Why were reviewers supposed to be interesting in the popularity the game had in Japan? lol
 
There's a screenie in the Destructoid review at least that shows ad-hoc being played. Ad-hoc is even better than the online MP. <3

It is way better. But getting together 4 people with Vitas who also have Soul Sacrifice seems nearly impossible, at least for me.
 
MH also got better entry after entry.
Why were reviewers supposed to be interesting in the popularity the game had in Japan? lol
Unite is just Freedom 2 with more content IIRC. If outlets didn't like it the first time around a re-release with more of the same shouldn't have netted reviews better by 10% especially since content is not a problem with Monster Hunter games.
There you have it.
 
8 is the fair score, as for me.
my italian website reviewed it if you're interested VGNetwork.it: http://www.vgnetwork.it/recensioni-ps-vita/soul-sacrifice/ (8.5)

If the online mode wasn't available, how could you (or your website) write that the game is a blast in multiplayer, and that multiplayer is really long? Another question I have: you say that the game is long based on what developers said. This means that you (or who wrote the review) didn't finish the game? Just asking. There seems to be a lot of complaints for negative reviews, but positive ones seem a bit flawed as well.

There you have it.

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If we're talking about averages, the fact that the expansion got 10% more might be due because more websites reviewed it and those website were more skewed the a higher grade. You should look at individual website, to see whether they reviewed in the same way or much better. My impression is that a 10% increased in scores on average is not due an unexplicable bias because the game was more popular in Japan.
 
MH also got better entry after entry.
Why were reviewers supposed to be interesting in the popularity the game had in Japan? lol

Didn't you post this already? MH did get better with each entry (though the sub entries really only gave extra monsters.) It also started getting crazy in Japan enough to hit the US mainstream press. Only at that point did it start getting better reviews. MHFU had some REALLY bad reviews even though it was pretty damn great. If MH had never really caught on like crazy and become a news story I doubt reviewers would have ever spent the time to figure the game out and give it better scores. Just look at GiantBomb. If Patrick wasn't trying it out with the localization team they would have never covered it period.

MH is a fantastic game. So is SS.
 
the SP is really good.. I like the story and the way you progress. I think I like the SP so much, that if the game didn´t even have MP, I wouldn´t miss it.
Yeah I have no issues with it at all, but since I started the MP I haven't even touched the SP unless I need to quickly go for some lowbie offerings.

It is way better. But getting together 4 people with Vitas who also have Soul Sacrifice seems nearly impossible, at least for me.
Yeah, I don't usually get the chance but for this I have one colleague with it for sure and another who we're working on. ^_^
 
Unite is just Freedom 2 with more content IIRC. If outlets didn't like it the first time around a re-release with more of the same shouldn't have netted reviews better by 10% especially since content is not a problem with Monster Hunter games.

Apparently Felyne helpers are worth 10% :P
 
Based solely on my experience with the demo all these scores seem to be lower than what I expected. Hopefully people don't get influenced by the scores and still support this game.
 
As a guy who is on the fence about getting a Vita for Soul Sacrifice and has no experience with the demo or anything, I'd like to know what exactly is wrong with what was written in the reviews and if someone could clear up any factual errors and misconceptions they may have made. I have no idea what anyone is saying on both sides and have no point of reference.

Some of the reviews comes across like they haven't played the MP (because it wasn't up), which is a major component of the game. Also Polygon calling it a "button masher" makes me think they haven't played it at all. The scores aren't bad, but they would have been higher if MP was accounted for, of that I'm certain.

Wait, they didn't have access to MP? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That is literally half or perhaps more than half the game. Lol

Phenomenal.

It would have been nice if they held the reviews back until they could properly play the MP like sixthaxis did, but there's really only Sony to blame for this.
 
Based solely on my experience with the demo all these scores seem to be lower than what I expected. Hopefully people don't get influenced by the scores and still support this game.
I think in this case the demo is a good enough representation of the final game and pretty much anyone that would have been interested will have played it that review scores shouldn't really impact those potential early adopters. Might stop people who don't know about the game (and that number could be quite large, given the lack of marketing to this point) jumping in though, which is a shame.
 
Is there a need to get so bend out of shape here? Slamming them as ignorant for having a different opinion is pretty harsh

I will agree that people should try out the demo too and not judge the game based solely on the reviews
 
Is there a need to get so bend out of shape here? Slamming them as ignorant for having a different opinion is pretty harsh

I will agree that people should try out the demo too and not judge the game based solely on the reviews
Welcome to review threads! :p

Most of the comments in here seem level headed enough to me, although I haven't read every post.
 
Disappointed, but i had a bad feeling from the demo. I kept thinking "Is this it? Just a series of arena battles?". I assumed some kind of open world like Monster Hunter, it just seemed incredibly limiting.

Pre-order cancelled, sadly not joking in this case.
The act of wandering around looking for monsters to kill is the last thing this game needs more of.
 
You guys really need to chill. Going "lol games journalism!!!!" for fairly moderate reviews looks kinda crazy.
 
But this game is top tier. That's the problem.

It is. That doesn't change that its better than the reception that similar games got when they were new franchises. The scores were completely predictable. An 8 for a game like this without a lot of hype is not bad at all.
 
But this game is top tier. That's the problem.

In your opinion. This style of game is not for everyone. The game is getting average reviews, so besides the Edge 6 there's nothing to really complain about scores wise and Edge is always funky with numbers. Now, the actual reviews might be wrong though.
 
In your opinion. This style of game is not for everyone.

This is also something I don't understand.
Not being for everyone should be stressed in the review, but it shouldn't be reflected in the score. Every game is not for everyone following this reasoning; we have variety in genres, experiences, and so on. I can also say that Halo is not for everyone (not for young girls, for example) or that Wii Sports is not for everyone (those who don't like motion controls), but still they must reviewed considering the target they're aiming at.
 
This is also something I don't understand.
Not being for everyone should be stressed in the review, but it shouldn't be reflected in the score. Every game is not for everyone following this reasoning; we have variety in genres, experiences, and so on. I can also say that Halo is not for everyone (not for young girls, for example) or that Wii Sports is not for everyone (those who don't like motion controls), but still they must reviewed considering the target they're aiming at.

This is a very hard thing to reflect in a simple score and every person has their biases so this goes into the can reviwers ever be objective category which I still think is a no.
 
This is also something I don't understand.
Not being for everyone should be stressed in the review, but it shouldn't be reflected in the score. Every game is not for everyone following this reasoning; we have variety in genres, experiences, and so on. I can also say that Halo is not for everyone (not for young girls, for example) or that Wii Sports is not for everyone (those who don't like motion controls), but still they must reviewed considering the target they're aiming at.
"I absolutely loathed everything about this game, but I'm sure the target audience will love it. 9.5/10."

Is that what you want out of reviews?
 
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