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*SPOILERS* The Walking Dead TV show, leaks, and comic book SPOILER discussion thread
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Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I just heard that Carol and Daryl die in the finale. Basically the way it was described was that Carol gets cornered by zombies and Daryl comes by on his motorcycle to rescue her but after she gets on he needs to clear a path to drive out so he goes for his gun in his saddlebag but it is missing which leaves him no choice but to try and drive through the zombies on his bike and when he does they pull him and Carol off of it and eat them both! Friend said he read it on 4chan. Has this shit been confirmed? I will be so pissed if Daryl gets killed.
Edit: Can you search for posts on 4chan? I think he is fucking with me. I have no idea what I am doing. Seems very disorganized.
Edit: Can you search for posts on 4chan? I think he is fucking with me. I have no idea what I am doing. Seems very disorganized.
Ew at Rick and Andrea hooking up. She's ugly, annoying, and nothing can make her become a good character. He just needs to meet a female that's actually good from the start and attractive.
UberTag
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A lot of spoilers have been coming out of 4chan but this seems hard to swallow without corroboration. Daryl is Mr. Crossbow... seems like the only time he's used a gun in the series was last night when he blew Dale's brains out.
His gun is missing because that shit named Carl stole it.
Even still, I really hope Daryl doesn't die. With Shane on the way out he's the only character left I actually care for.
So, since Sophia died (And didn't in the comics), can we get Carl offed too? The kid playing him sucks, and the time between seasons will be greater then the time passing in the show's timeline, he'll grow and we'll have another WAAALT on our hands...
besides, the show would be better without Children fucking things up constantly.
besides, the show would be better without Children fucking things up constantly.
Carl in the comics is the only kid I've ever liked in a post crisis scenario.
I wanted to drop kick the kid in The Road in the teeth. I wanted to toss the kid in The Mist at one of those creatures. And Carl in the TWD TV show does suck.
Lori's baby is probably a whiner.
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
It would make absolutely no sense to introduce Daryl into the comics and then kill him off on the show. Not only that but he's pretty much everyone's favorite.
Tumblr will EXPLODE if this happens, too. :lol
Plus, I always figured they would make him Michonne's uneasy love interest when she shows up, because then it creates tension when/if Merle shows back up.
From the other thread. Couldn't respond to him because of spoilers but...
Michonne will be awesome for the show.
What Daryl one? Post #102? He already knows his gun is missing..
-Pyromaniac-
Member
highly doubt it's right
From what I gather, the spoilers for the finale are not out. The guy who spoiled the last few eps (and other episodes of other shows) specifically mentioned that he didn't want to spoil the finale because it was awesome apparently. Unless I'm not seeing something, it's not out.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
probably because they realized they fucked up the casting lawlzzz. She isn't major in the comics anyway, she is basically someone for Carl to chill with.
I haven't read them, but I just now looked to see who was till a live and thought "holy shit, she's still alive in them."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-shane-dead-robert-kirkman-298224
I agree Carl killing living Shane would be a huge misstep based on how the TV show lead up to it, but I also think Carl should die in the TV show.
That was my exact guess on their reasoning when I saw it go down. Shane had been harping on Rick for indecision all season and so to have Carl do what Rick won't would have been kind of damaging to Rick's character.
Still, it kind of ruins that moment in the prison where Rick actually kills someone living. A moment Shane would have been proud of.
Still, it kind of ruins that moment in the prison where Rick actually kills someone living. A moment Shane would have been proud of.
Don't forget the people they meet along the way. By my count, the prison storyline gives us: Axel, Dexter, Andrew, Thomas, Michonne, Tyreese, Julie & Chris
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Comic_Series_Characters
Tyreese and his daughter and boyfriend were with them since before the farm. I think Darryl is gonna end up with Tyresse's storyline (including getting killed by the governor) in season three. But it's probably gonna be something different. The writers seem like they wanna surprise people that are reading the comics too, which is awesome.
I think that scene works better in a comic book than it would on a tv show... We'd find it cool sure, but the general audience might find it kinda cheesy. The writers will have to tone Michonne down overall imo. Otherwise she would come off like Buffy the Zombie slayer.
Sophia in the comics is more of a background character too. She is used though to further develop the relationship between Glenn and Maggie. In the comics its Carol who dies and Maggie and Glenn became Sophia's surrogate parents. The death of her mother left Sophia in a catatonic state for a while and she eventually repressed all memories of Carol and she really thinks Maggie and Glenn are her biological parents. The kid is pretty messed up, but totally understandable why. The death of Carol is one of the many fucked up shocking deaths in the comics.
The writers need to start focusing on crafting believable narratives first and foremost. It's like they always envision this one particular scenario that they think would be neat, and then they proceed to throw away the laws of logic and common sense to make it happen.
Shane wouldn't have picked that spot to murder Rick, Carl wouldn't have been the only one to race outside at the sound of a gunshot, Carl wouldn't have stood there silently as a walker approached his dad from behind, etc, etc....
Pachterballs
Banned
But it wasnt just a walker. Its Shane someone that Carl knew and loved. He was in shock.
I totally agree with you about the writing though. Its very consistently inconsistent.
Norman begged Robert to write his character into the comic. And loe and behold this teaser image: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17ffnn42yfvc2jpg/original.jpg
ToyMachine228
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For one, Daryl is one of the most liked characters on the show, if not the most liked. Two, he mentioned this episode that he knew his gun was missing. Three, someone gave him another one. So this scenario doesn't seem very plausible.
03-05-2012
UberTag
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No reason Daryl can't be written into the comics as a character just as his on-screen persona is getting killed off. There are ultimately two distinct mythologies being written here that will weave back and forth between each other sharing some common events and diverging on others.
I'm not buying the 4chan spoiler "as it was written" earlier in this thread from Baron Aloha, either. And it has not been corroborated elsewhere that I can see.
But I can easily buy that elements of said spoiler ARE correct. After all, we DO see Carol seemingly "cornered by zombies" and we DO see Daryl riding "on his bike" in the only promo bumper released for the finale.
I'm not buying the 4chan spoiler "as it was written" earlier in this thread from Baron Aloha, either. And it has not been corroborated elsewhere that I can see.
But I can easily buy that elements of said spoiler ARE correct. After all, we DO see Carol seemingly "cornered by zombies" and we DO see Daryl riding "on his bike" in the only promo bumper released for the finale.
That's a lot of coincidental material to get right while still being "horse shit". He may already know his gun is missing and that spoiler can still be bang on about Daryl and Carol being ripped off his bike and munched due to a lack of bullets to use in Dale's gun. Just saying.
It would fit into the inconsistent logic of this show. But nah it wont happen since Daryl is indeed one of the most likeable characters of the show. The people dying next episode are probably the characters you don't give a fuck about. Like Jimmy, Patricia and Beth. The last one would be a joke. She had suicidal tendencies, decided she wants to live and ends up as zombie food.
Edit: He is shooting a gun in the pics though....
Edit: He is shooting a gun in the pics though....
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Writing Dale into the comic is a really interesting idea.
Doesn't mean he'll be alive any longer in the show, though.
Doesn't mean he'll be alive any longer in the show, though.
Baconsaurus Rex
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He is however shooting a gun in the pics...
A gun without a MAG sadly.
UberTag does say:
" elements of said spoiler ARE correct."
"He may already know his gun is missing and that spoiler can still be bang on about Daryl and Carol being ripped off his bike and munched due to a lack of bullets to use in Dale's gun. "
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
And he is sitting.
UberTag
Member
Going to emphasize the part I added back in there because I honestly don't know.
I could see the spoiler being legit if the shots of Daryl capping zombies initially are when he's retrieving his bike. (You can see Dale's RV being driven - probably by Glenn at the same time.)
They then head off in separate directions to try and rescue everyone. Daryl could then find Carol cornered, rescue her, run out of ammo and they need to make a hail mary drive on the bike through the zombie horde only to get eaten.
UberTag
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Here's another Daryl/Carol promo image for next week from Spoilertv.com that indicates they survive the night.
Or maybe they just filmed next week's shots during the day and darkened them with effects afterwards. In which case, Carol riding with Daryl on his bike for the first time could be construed as a BAD thing.
This next shot features additional "survivors" of the farm assault:
Rick, Lori, Carl, Hershel... and GAF's favorite guy, T-Dog
It should be noted there's a daylight shot in the bumper for next week featuring Andrea running away from some unknown threat so sunshine may not indicate safety in the season finale. Just who leaves the farm.
FYI, I think the two of them are probably fine. If one wants to assume that daylight = stays alive next week and that Glenn/Maggie aren't in jeopardy that just leaves the rest of the Greene fodder unaccounted for.
I'll give Patricia the best odds of getting munched next week. She literally serves no other purpose now that she can't tend to the farm if it's overrun, the Otis storyline is done and she has received no other development whatsoever.
Here's an additional sneak peek ad for next week's finale.
Or maybe they just filmed next week's shots during the day and darkened them with effects afterwards. In which case, Carol riding with Daryl on his bike for the first time could be construed as a BAD thing.
This next shot features additional "survivors" of the farm assault:
Rick, Lori, Carl, Hershel... and GAF's favorite guy, T-Dog
It should be noted there's a daylight shot in the bumper for next week featuring Andrea running away from some unknown threat so sunshine may not indicate safety in the season finale. Just who leaves the farm.
FYI, I think the two of them are probably fine. If one wants to assume that daylight = stays alive next week and that Glenn/Maggie aren't in jeopardy that just leaves the rest of the Greene fodder unaccounted for.
I'll give Patricia the best odds of getting munched next week. She literally serves no other purpose now that she can't tend to the farm if it's overrun, the Otis storyline is done and she has received no other development whatsoever.
Here's an additional sneak peek ad for next week's finale.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
If Daryl dies, I quit. Like seriously
But it seems like Daryl is taking over the role of Tyrese, if he survives and saves Carol, they can form some awkward relationship together.
But it seems like Daryl is taking over the role of Tyrese, if he survives and saves Carol, they can form some awkward relationship together.
UberTag
Member
That seems likely.
Incidentally, here's a quick reminder of another spoiler leaked about the finale a few months back which indicates we get introduced to Michonne next week.
When they discover everyone is already infected in the comics, it was such a powerful and emotional moment. In spoiler tags; just in case.
Tyreese his daughter Julie and her boyfriend Chris wanted to commit a double-pact suicide. But Chris shot too early. And then Tyreese stumbled upon this scene. While holding his daughter in his arms Julie reanimates. And Chris shot he again. This action enraged Tyreese causing him to strangle Chris to death. After that he waited until Chris turned and killed him all over again. I mean he chopped him to pieces. Wow.
-Pyromaniac-
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lol the full spoilers are actually out now, real ones, and good god are they amazing.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Aside from the opening (dumbest shit ever...), that's pretty crazy.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
So Daryl doesn't die? That's all I wanted to know.
snoopeasystreet
Member
sounds pretty good.
The opening in the spoilers describes the behavior of a herd.
As do helicopters or gunshots. When they hear a gunshot they just walk to the direction the sound came from. Or when you flee by car, they follow it even when its out of sight. They will walk for days attracting other zombies on the way and thus create a huge herd of zombies. We saw a herd in the tv series in the episode What Lies Ahead.
As do helicopters or gunshots. When they hear a gunshot they just walk to the direction the sound came from. Or when you flee by car, they follow it even when its out of sight. They will walk for days attracting other zombies on the way and thus create a huge herd of zombies. We saw a herd in the tv series in the episode What Lies Ahead.