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Spring Anime 2012 II | Welcome Home Eureka
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I would. Skipping episodes is not watching a show. It's incomplete.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
It's easier to destruct someone's perception of anime than to construct one.
We could be better than this. We could do more for the community.
More the reason why we need to do God's work!
Those are pretty much my impressions after watching the first episode about a week ago. I kind of felt derp because the show didn't bother explaining Mahjong the way Chihayafuru explained Karuta. I also had a wtf moment again with the bonding montage. The whole episode made me feel like the one person in the group of people who didn't understand a joke and just sort of smiles stupidly wondering what in the world people heard that I didn't.
Jex
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Skipping episodes can vastly improve a show. It's a good thing to do in a number of circumstances.
But it wouldn't be as fun, would it? Seeing people scream in terror is kind of rad. But only as long as the scarring isn't permanent. We don't want to kill the new residents.
A Black Falcon
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Objective criticism of a Key show, on GAF? Hah! It's not objective. It's very strongly biased against Key.
The plot makes just as much sense as anything else Key has done. They always involve something supernatural and tragedies. AB is no exception. They're very good at their tragic-supernatural writing, too, far better than anything else I've seen from anime.
The story was clearly planned from the beginning, and was well thought through from start to finish. There sort of is a shift of focus in the series, as the series plays with your expectations and then goes in an unexpected direction, but I think that was great -- it kept things interesting, and it made the story better than it could have been otherwise... Otonashi is a much more complex character than most anime leads. He definitely has a personality, and makes important decisions in this series!
Or did you miss how one of the major themes of the series is how he decides to try to help the students of the resistance committee move on from within their group, despite their stated goal of finding and defeating God because of their anger at being put here and not knowing what's right or what to do? That's a major decision indeed.
Who'd have guessed at the beginning that the "main girl" wasn't the lead female at all... but no, it was obviously planned, and planned well.
Never skip anything, you must stay the course when watching a show.
If I had to skip episodes to make a show good then I would just not watch the show at all and watch something that I can watch without making arbitrary changes of my own to make it good.
This sounds like something a quitter would say.
Stay the course. Ride out the storms. Victory is so much sweeter.
I actually liked Clannad a lot at times. Most of the KyoAni Key shows though suffer from pacing problems.
Master Milk
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Hmm, I guess. But the way ABF talks about it, if he recommended it to me like that and I actually watched it because of him, I'd want to find a way to get him permabanned to pay him back. That's be the only way I could consider us even.
I don't mind the animeGAF label, but I had 13 posts in the last thread. Keep that animeGAF hivemind bullshit to yourself. I hate AB because it's a bad show. That's all there is to it.
If you like it, that's fine. But it's still a terrible show. There's nothing wrong with liking terrible shows, if all you're gonna do is like it. When you start proclaiming it as a great, or even good show, when it's obviously an ill-made piece of trash, you're gonna have people disagreeing with your opinion.
Have you seen Wolfs Rain?
Jex
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Well, the best way to recommend an anime is to some it up in a neat catchprase or write a whole thread for it. I've already done that for Rose of Versailles, Mushi-Shi, Angel's Egg, Legend of the Galactic Heroes (0 posts, you guys suck), Giant Robo, Patlabor, Kaiji/One Outs, GAINAX and Master Keaton. It tends to be the stuff that I am most passionate about.
Of course it doesn't make sense! It's supposed to be silly, this idea that her uniform skirt is some kind of mark of her station. Especially how Gruier phrased it. It's treating a very silly idea as if it were of the utmost importance. Notice how Marika herself is flabbergasted?
Gruier isn't intentionally telling a joke, which is itself the joke--the humor is that Gruier said it in (apparently) all seriousness.
It's like any character in any show behaving in a silly way (that the character thinks is serious), for the sake of humor, while the other characters and audience look on bemusedly.
Exactly. It's not an "anime girls" thing; it's a general high school girls thing.
Subtle Nadia Island episodes warning.
I know. Giving straight responses to jokes is my thing. Dunno why.
True wisemen know when not to START a show.
I don't like AB either but ehhhh, that's harsh.
Jex
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If I had to skip episodes to make a show good then I would just not watch the show at all and watch something that I can watch without making arbitrary changes of my own to make it good.
If you watch, for example, 100% recap episodes with no new material you're literally wasting your life.
Which is your own choice, of course. A series is not some monolithic structure [most of the time], it can be chopped up and separated however you chose, largely due to the inconsistent nature of TV anime production.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Tell you what, I swear I'm gonna start watching LotGH for realz this time as soon as one element in my MAL gets cleared out.
You can't just sweep those Nadia episodes under the rug!
The only complaints I have with LOGH is that the visuals are pretty bad and the tactics employed make sense only for land based cavalry and not for spaceships. Should have at least used naval tactics.
Other than that, its one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Ultimadrago
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I would find it hard that an anime could be that offensive to cause so much bad blood towards someone else for it.
Jex
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Nope. Especially with episodic shows, cutting out really awkward or boring episodes improves the whole experience and saves me a lot of time.
I have a lot of issues with Angel's Egg mainly it feels like an 'art' film in that it feels like the writer having a self-jerk about how many philosophical terms he can fit into a film.
I plan on watching LotGH this summer.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The ones outsourced to Korea, I imagine. They are pretty awful.
Hell if you like shounen anime, you can skip entire arcs!
Well, you're talking to somebody who has dedicated themself to watching every single episode of DB and DBZ. I'm probably crazy and should be tuned out!
I saw episode one from one of those preview discs that comes with Newtype issues, back when that glorious magazine was published in the US. I have a huge number of such discs and it was a good way to gauge my interest in various shows and helped me to develop my collection.
I think you may have the wrong movie because that doesn't describe Angel's Egg at all.
I found not-Haruhi really offensive as fuck because you know she looks and acts like that specifically because of Haruhi. Its like, yeah sure steal ideas and designs but don't be THAT blatant about it.
For the hnng?
I was in an artclass of about thirty people, two who were philosophy majors and one who had a degree, and nobody liked it for that exact reason. It's way too open ended in regards to interpretation and narrative.
hosannainexcelsis
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The thing about Angel's Egg is that its religious imagery and musings aren't meaningless mumbo-jumbo as they often are in anime. Oshii had something he wanted to say, drawn from his personal experiences, and he said it. He knew what he was doing.
Jex
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Nadia is a really interesting and telling example, I think.
GAINAX and Anno in particular were working crazy hours to get the show animated properly during the middle of production (19 hour days and all that stuff) so eventually he just went 'screw it, I am making the ending to this show right now and you ruys can create some filler while we get this finished'. So he went out to make the final five episodes of the series while some other folks filled out the ten or so episodes that they were contractually obligated to produce.
Now, it's not filler in the classic sense of the word because it's not based off a manga or anything. However, Nadia is not an episodic show, it's a traditional story. However the 'filler' episodes that got created were entirely episodic and on top of that they were badly made, tonally inconsistent and completely discordant with the nature of the show as a whole. They literally don't belong with the rest of the story and they only exist because the show's length was artificially increased by Executives who needed it to run longer.
That's not really how angels Egg is though. Its more of a religious wank, but it only really presents a single argument.
The only thing this would be right about is skipping Recap episodes, because the entire point of those is that the writers did not have any new material that week to present.
We discussed the hell out of that and whether the religious analysis(which was only one of the theories we went through) was correct or not.
It's really not.
Ultimadrago
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Inclined to agree. Though I don't always skip episodes I know I'm better off without. I could hardly say someone else need to follow the rule of "Watch all episodes, even the useless and boring"
Angel Beats 1
You were warned dude!
Infinite Justice
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New Thread already?
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not necessarily. Apollon isn't very hnng and neither is Lupin, but I watch them for entertainment. I don't REQUIRE HNNG though as I have said many times it is highly encouraged.
Narag takes warnings as challenges. AND HE CONQUERS.
Nobody takes Art or Philosophy Majors seriously.
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