You need to get better FAP material if you think pretty girls in games is the best way to get you off.
So, this star wars female character would be considered a beauty according to their standards.
The outfits are the issue, not how those women look. Like what is the point of that outfit?
2016 art.
It's called creating your character. Why should he draw what you think is a beauty? Should artists not draw handicapped characters? Scars? Do you want him to only draw healthy people?
So, this star wars female character would be considered a beauty according to their standards.
That was how most Romans looked. Make up introduction changed how people view beauty.
The outfits are the issue, not how those women look. Like what is the point of that outfit?
2016 art.
She was there for the blood. The whole thing changes, if you change her outfit. They didn't, and that gave us a bad us fighter.
Now days, people want the generic russian look. They don't want a face that fits the settings of the game. Would be mad if you simply change the outfit.
A beautiful lady, people would have liked to see the character looking like her....
... but they instead did use this lizard as reference and did put a wig on it.to this:
Companies change the characters face sometimes depending on what they want. Sony changed the face of Spider-Man game. That face was there for 2+ years. Apparently, it was to match the voice actor. (Don't know if that was the reason).I thought the controversy around the main character in SW Outlaws was not about her body, but about her face going from this:
to this:
But some respect to the lizard. He is handsome as hell.but they instead did use this lizard as reference and did put a wig on it.
Companies change the characters face sometimes depending on what they want. Sony changed the face of Spider-Man game. That face was there for 2+ years. Apparently, it was to match the voice actor. (Don't know if that was the reason).
Sex appeal / attractiveness can absolutely be a benefit used in some games (such as Uncharted, Bayonetta or Stellar Blade), but it is not requisite in all games or all media.
What I'm seeing for Star Wars Outlaws is people complaining about Kay Vess not being attractive and how her chin/eyebrows/face structure is different from the voice actor, not that the game as whole lacks titillation. And I would not say that titillation is something which needs to be in an open world Star Wars game
Companies change the characters face sometimes depending on what they want. Sony changed the face of Spider-Man game. That face was there for 2+ years. Apparently, it was to match the voice actor. (Don't know if that was the reason).
Both actors got screwed by both companies. Yuri Lowenthal is 51 years, so making him young peter makes no sense. They should have used John bubniak for voice and model as he looks younger.
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Kay is the only character we've seen beyond aliens. So, it's not really something that should come as a surprise to you that her weird face has been the focus of the discussion.
If only one could point a common thing between Padme, OT Leia and Rey….
It will sell well because it’s a SW game, there are not many of them after EA fucked up the licence. There is no need for him to virtue signal except feeling morally righteous.
Question is- will it be launch window sales at 70$ or deeply discounted/used copies sales that barely move revenue stream?
Looks like a member of Queen.
I’d rather bed Freddie.
Sorry for the late reply!
I think the point is that it really shouldn't matter if the main character is "attractive" or not. Attractive is subjective, anyway. So on it's face it's already a silly argument to begin with. But more to the point, whether you enjoy the game in the end or not will ultimately not have anything to do with the "attractiveness" of the main character. You either enjoy playing the game, or you don't.
Well the issue is there are plenty more examples where it goes the other way, and no one seems to notice or care. Yet for this particular game, the female main character "must be superficially physically attractive" otherwise there is something wrong, is that the argument being made? Because like I said, there's plenty of games we've all played where the physical attractiveness of the protagonist does not matter at all, and it is not a hinderance. So in that case, the real question is, why does it matter in this specific case? Because it's a woman instead of a man? Woman protagonists must be attractive at all times, but men protagonists don't have to be? I've never heard that before it seems awfully silly to me, not to mention a clear double standard that people should probably just get over themselves about.
Dr. Wilkinson
It's not worth it. You're screaming into the void.
Compare with
Padme
Leia
Mara Jade
Bastila Shan
Even Rey
Would rather play a Rodian at this point instead of Kay Vess.
I prefer Shin Hati thanks.
Remember when they put Fabio on the cover of a game and we ended up with this? Literally unplayable.....It's pretty simple: people want to play as characters who they are attracted to. I wouldn't even narrow that down to just physical attractiveness, it's just the most readily obvious one. Some may overlook a lack of physical attractiveness if the character's personality is appealing or if they are worth looking up to in some other way (see: the sexy women going out with the goofy looking funny guy trope).
An issue specifically with Outlaws is the questionable quality of the game. This is Ubislop, which few people are expecting to be well written. We'll probably be getting an annoying, Mary Sue girl boss. Nobody knows yet but it seems likely given recent trends (and because we've already seen her shrug off a thermal detonator explosion like it was nothing). Physical attractiveness does a lot of heavy lifting and with it removed from the equation, all that weight is now being transferred onto the shoulders of the character's writing and other traits. Most writing in media is not worth a damn any more so that's why we do often have to rely on superficiality like attractiveness to get things over the finish line of enjoyability. In movies back in the '70s Hollywood used to be able to get away with putting all sorts of mutants on screen because the films were actually decent (we just called them "character actors" back then).
There's a saying that we eat with our eyes first and that rings true when judging a character based off their looks. Until we get to the tasting, an ugly character gives an off-putting first impression. First impressions do matter a lot, and to pick an example which is actually explicitly aimed at women, there is the famous Fabio appearing on hundreds of romance novel covers:
That image is what gets women through the door. Then if the book's any good, they fall in love with the character due to the writing. And while women want to bone him, men also want to be him - so they can bone the women and swing a sword on top of a mountain. It's an example of how attractiveness can lead to widespread appeal.
As I said, physical attractiveness is not the be all and end all because there can be other character attributes to make up for it. But when the developer has the opportunity staring them right in the face to make the character very attractive - literally, in this case, when they have scans of the beautiful actress - going out their way to not secure such an easy slam dunk appeal to the masses is baffling. By appealing to the maximum amount of people via physical attraction, it means that even if the other traits like their personality fail to resonate, there is still something superficial to fall back on. It's a fail-safe. The girl boss pill is more easily swallowed if she at least looks good.
Why this issue has become such a big point of contention with both this game and Fable is also down to the demographics of the players. Most people who play these sorts of games continue to be straight men. Certain people won't want to admit that. A straight man will not be concerned with the sexual attractiveness of a male protagonist, because he isn't concerned with that aspect of the sex to begin with. He will be looking to other attributes to judge his worth as a character. I'm pretty sure most straight men don't want to bone Conan or Marcus Fenix but they still appeal a lot as heroic, masculine power fantasies (and I say that as a positive). A straight male player will care more about how hot a women is because that is what he's biologically destined to see as an important quality of that sex. When a man with a functioning sex drive sees a woman, where she sits on the boner binary is the first thought on his mind.
I'd also argue that attractiveness isn't nearly as subjective as it seems. The fact that 2 people can disagree on whether someone is attractive or not isn't proof of its subjectivity. To me it just shows that the person being judged maybe isn't actually so attractive as to get widespread recognition of that. If Kay Vess was attractive enough, we wouldn't be having this argument, in the way that we don't hear any widespread debate about whether or not Brad Pitt is attractive. You can always find outlier opinions but the exceptions just prove the rule.
One of the best nes games made?Remember when they put Fabio on the cover of a game and we ended up with this? Literally unplayable.....
I remember getting home with that, and was all wtf. This is nothing like that. I still bring this up to people every now and thenRemember when they put Fabio on the cover of a game and we ended up with this? Literally unplayable.....
It was a joke man. Take it as such.One of the best nes games made?
Compare with
Padme
Leia
Mara Jade
Bastila Shan
Even Rey
Would rather play a Rodian at this point instead of Kay Vess.
