I still have issues to see what 4 of 5 in a scale of 1-10 means. Ist this really an 8? Or 8,5? Or 9?Eurogamer Germany, 8/10.
Starfield im Test: Fallout im Weltraum. Nicht weniger, vielleicht sogar ein bisschen mehr
Was kann Bethesdas erste neue Marke seit einem Vierteljahrhundert? Alex hat sich lange durchs all geschossen und erstattet nun bericht.www.eurogamer.de
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Windom Earle
Member
Because he is right more often than not. Just like in this case.
BbMajor7th
Member
Attempts driveby slam, gets curb-stomped, vanishes - such dialectical courage.
M1987
Member
It's the same on both.It's CPU bound,so it doesn't matter how good of a GPU you have
Lokaum D+
Member
Yeah, i have both version and i can say for sure, gamepass performance is way worse then steam, i wonder why ?While Starfield has been released with positive reviews on Steam, the same can't be said for the Game Pass/Xbox App version.
Weighting 140.8 GB instead of 116 GB and with low peformance, the game is currently 2.5/5.0 on overall user scores, and going lower, the vast majority of complains due to it's very poor peformance.
Elysium44
Banned
I just looked on the Xbox app, it looks like the base game and premium version are subject to separate reviews? Which would be strange. Anyway the base game is at 2.9 from 109 reviews and the premium is 2.8 from 327. These are miniscule numbers of reviews for such a popular game
Also I assume the premium reviews are people who have paid for that DLC and can't refund it, is that right? So nobody can accuse those people of buying it just to review bomb.
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Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
Wrong, the store show the size of the total package, when you install it it only downloads the required language and weight 116 to 120 GB, just like the Steam version...
About performance, it runs as well as the Steam version, very stable and supports all the mods released so far.
It's the same game and even supports Auto HDR when you have to rename the exe on Steam to get it.
The Xbox Store is mostly filled with bad reviews anyway, it's rare that a game gets good reviews, especially Game Pass games.
gow3isben
Member
Steam is not its only platform lol
RoboFu
One of the green rats
The main quest seems pretty short. I finished at 8 hours, but I think the main issue is balance. You can easily get past halfway without having to be leveled at all. Then you are slammed with level 30 enemies all of a sudden. 
You spend time to get your levels and gear up to the task and then it’s over.
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There is still tons of quests to do but it’s still unpolished for the main quests to be in that state.
You spend time to get your levels and gear up to the task and then it’s over.
. There is still tons of quests to do but it’s still unpolished for the main quests to be in that state.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
nah they’ll definitely get progressively more shit, by releasing same game with same deadend engine once a decade.
they already went from comfortably mid90 dev to probably low80s when this one settles.
there is a reason this one is already their lowest rated rpg bar fo76, in spite of review curating attempts.
sure you’ll have diehard console warriors defending them no matter what, but thats just part of the fun.
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Tomeru
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Ulysses 31
Member
Would closer to 6.5-8.4 to me if we take decimals and round up into account.
Yeah all the progression RPG systems are really really badly designed.The main quest seems pretty short. I finished at 8 hours, but I think the main issue is balance. You can easily get past halfway without having to be leveled at all. Then you are slammed with level 30 enemies all of a sudden.
You spend time to get your levels and gear up to the task and then it’s over.
There is still tons of quests to do but it’s still unpolished for the main quests to be in that state.
The game can offer awesome moments but it really has a town of shortcomings and Xbox360 era weird restrictions.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
BbMajor7th
Member
Tomeru
Member
Do explain.
GHG
Member
Anything below 6.5 automatically falls into the 3/5 star bracket, and anything above 8.4 automatically falls into the 5/5 bracket.
Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me
Bethesda's latest can't help but feel shallow by comparison.
Madflavor
Member
Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me
Bethesda's latest can't help but feel shallow by comparison.www.pcgamer.com
I think BG3 throws salt on the wound, but some of Starfield's mechanics would've felt dated regardless.
Yeah BG3 being so recent definitely doesn't help.Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me
Bethesda's latest can't help but feel shallow by comparison.
The game is just incomplete though. No actual map system is inexcusable and brings this game down more than anything else it's missing, imo. I don't even understand how that happens, would love to see someone ask Todd about it. I can't believe this was originally supposed to launch last year too, given how incomplete it still is.
Jadsey
Member
I've played for 14 hours now and so far it's the weakest of the BGS games to date.
I love Elder Scrolls and Fallout games, the main draw for me being the exploration & world building elements. .
These feel very shallow to me. I have spent most of my time in loading screens and menus and feel very disconnected from the universe.
On the flip side, the writing seems to be quite good and I've not encountered too much jank.
I've just read the IGN review and it seems quite fair to me. I'll stick it out for sure and hope that things improve.
I love Elder Scrolls and Fallout games, the main draw for me being the exploration & world building elements. .
These feel very shallow to me. I have spent most of my time in loading screens and menus and feel very disconnected from the universe.
On the flip side, the writing seems to be quite good and I've not encountered too much jank.
I've just read the IGN review and it seems quite fair to me. I'll stick it out for sure and hope that things improve.
Interfectum
Member
BG3 shines a spotlight on Starfield's dated mechanics. If not for BG3, Starfield would have owned the RPG space for weeks and not been compared to anything.
This is definitely similar to Forbidden West vs Elden Ring.
Buggy Loop
Member
Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me
Bethesda's latest can't help but feel shallow by comparison.
The writing in Starfield is comical after having spent ~130 hours in BG3. Like it's very surperficial dialogues with little to no repercussions in Starfield. The dialogues don't feel natural at all. Like one guy pops on mining site and gives you the keys to everything, the ship, the robot, trust me bro, go to constellation. It feels like a satiric version of quests.
But I'll not drag a game for not being as well written as Larian's masterpiece. I'm digging Starfield so far.
BG3 is GOAT though, not only GOTY, it's top 3 game of all time for me now.
Madflavor
Member
I agree for the most part, but there are some things in Starfield that feel really, and I mean really dated. The persuasion system for example is so silly.
Interfectum
Member
I'm liking Starfield okay enough but yeah I mean everything feels dated in Starfield after BG3. The way the characters look even... in BG3 they look so good and a lot of gorgeous looking characters to boot. In Starfield they all look uncanny valley and ugly.
Ulysses 31
Member
Yeah I was a little off, it's more like 7-8.9.
You typically round up when you have decimal of .5 or higher when converting to a system with no decimals like the X/5 rating system for a little more accuracy.
The conversion of the 0-10 with decimals to X/5 with no decimals is to divide by 2. If the 0-10 system scores a 7 that would be 3.5 in the X/5 system but since there's no decimals and it's .5 or higher it would be round up to a 4.
So if something scores an 4/5 that could mean something between a 7 to 8.9 on the 0-10 system because of the decimals that get lost in the conversion to the X/5.
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mitchman
Gold Member
Do the freestar collection and crimson fleet side mission story lines in that order and you'll feel differently.
Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....he's no more right or wrong than anyone else. He's just voicing his opinion after reading random stuff on the internet. And in this case, one based on a false premise. But I guess he appeals to some people so that's fine. I will say he had good coverage of the Depp-Heard saga though.
Madflavor
Member
I was watching a video on the romance with Sarah Morgan.
It's just so basic. You choose the flirt options, do her questline, and then get married. Getting married is literally just showing up at a random spot, she's still dressed in her casual clothing, some NPC declares you lifemates, and that's it. Nobody shows up a the wedding except her mother. Even Skyrim back in 2011 gave you an audience.
I know it's a minor thing, but the game really doesn't do anything that truly takes Bethesda RPGs to the next level. Their last RPG was 8 years ago. Starfield is a lot of great ideas, half baked. It makes me worried for TESVI. Todd seems so out of touch and has clearly lost his creative spark.
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't care for the persuasion system either. It is entirely random whether you pick the right things to say in each individual encounter. I've invested points in Persuasion to help get through it, but it can be annoying.
I think that summary is oversimplifying the romance of characters. It isn't just a matter of selecting flirt. You have to spend a lot of time with the character on missions and if you do things they don't approve of then romance may not even be an option. I will say that the option for "flirting" with Sarah came up pretty early on while with Andreja it was a long while as she had a lot of barriers up that fit with her closed off personality. So isn't the same for all the characters in the game.
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graywolf323
Member
so David Jaffe is now calling Starfield his favorite single player game ever, the replies are going about as you’d expect because that is quite the statement
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
ShadyAcshuns
Member
At least ten Starfield topics on the first page of the gaming boards...
Topher
Identifies as young
That's Jaffe being Jaffe. He likes stirring up things with statements like these. Brings him more attention which is the lifeblood of any social media/YouTube personality.
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yazenov
Gold Member
But using his own logic, the Xbox shills like Warren will deduct the scores or give it the score it actually deserves due to Playstation. So the review score will stay the same because of equilibrium.The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all
Tsaki
Member
He really wants that job at Microsoft, doesn't he?The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all
probably already has one
Die Namek Ability
Member
The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all
GHG
Member
Vroadstar
Member
The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all
Starfield review scores still breaking hearts and minds.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Starfield review scores still breaking hearts and minds.
I think it's just a bit of fun.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
People like this shill are what's wrong with gaming and games media.The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Armies of people
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Evangelistic™
solidus12
Member
They really have an army of them huh?
Even the so called professionals who work for gaming and tech outlets.
graywolf323
Member
and Tom Warren has the gall to call himself a journalist…The 90+ metacritic score is still a possibility after all