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[Grief.exe]

Volgarr Devs reporting 96% piracy rate

I call bullshit on that, especially their saying that this is standard for PC games. Did 2,500,000 people get Stanley Parable off a torrent site? Are there really 500,000,000 people playing their pirated version of The Sims 2?

This feels like a PR stunt to me - gaming press will pick up on the story, and each article is a free advertisment, right?

That is the longest Twitter thread I have ever seen! Hard to keep track of information that way.

They seem to have totaled the amount of copies downloaded off of torrent sites, then compared them to their sales numbers to get that data.

 

[KarmaCow]

Well I guess I'm not downloading Deus Ex HR: DC today then.

 

[Whools]

Is Gone Home still worth picking up even if you've had the ending spoiled?

I love that game, but if you know the story, probably not unfortunately. Watch the entire game on youtube or something, it's not that long. I hope you got a good description of if it was spoiled.

 

[Nabs]

You guys better hope that Reddit thread doesn't pick up steam, or else gaf is headed for some downtime as well.

 

[TouchMyBox]

I don't think they are saying the % is standard, just the concept of piracy on pc. It's probably especially high for a game with no demo and a rep for being too hard.

It's sad to see that people still use the number of transfers on torrents as a pirated copy of the game, as far as metrics go, that's a really shitty metric, though I guess it's the only metric there is without some sort of server authentication/leaderboards etc.

You guys better hope that Reddit thread doesn't pick up steam, or else gaf is headed for some downtime as well.

What thread? 720pizzle?

 

[Turfster]

I don't think they are saying the % is standard, just the concept of piracy on pc. It's probably especially high for a game with no demo and a rep for being too hard.

You know what I always find funny about these things?
I see 360 and PS3 ISOs hit the intarwebs days in advance, but nobody's going "oh noes, teh console pirates!", even though I know at least 5 people that pirate all their 360 games but buy their PC games...

 

[Nabs]

It's sad to see that people still use the number of transfers on torrents as a pirated copy of the game, as far as metrics go, that's a really shitty metric, though I guess it's the only metric there is without some sort of server authentication/leaderboards etc.

Totally agree with that. I hate that yearly thread on how we all steal COD.

You know what I always find funny about these things?
I see 360 and PS3 ISOs hit the intarwebs days in advance, but nobody's going "oh noes, teh console pirates!", even though I know at least 5 people that pirate all their 360 games but buy their PC games...

With Steamworks, day 0 piracy drops to 0, while 360/ps3 stuff gets hit first. It's funny.

What thread? 720pizzle?

yup

 

[BorntoPlay]

Deadly Premonition: The Director's Cut Raffle Reminder:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87008794&postcount=219

 

[Turfster]

With Steamworks, day 0 piracy drops to 0, while 360/ps3 stuff gets hit first. It's funny.

Well, that's not entirely true either.
Even the Steam games hit the intarwebs pretty quickly once they're released, but at least it's not a week in advance =p

 

[Mengy]

For anyone who wants to own or try Super Hexagon, there are only 49 minutes left in the raffle:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87060640&postcount=686

Man, this thread moves at light speed. I eat supper and four pages fly by...

 

[Gamerloid]

I really like how you guys giveaway games with Modbot. Makes me more anxious to finally build a gaming rig so I can really join this community and contribute. I'm not sure when Nvidia normally announces their next gen GPUs, but I should have saved up quite a lot by then.

 

[Nabs]

Well, that's not entirely true either.
Even the Steam games hit the intarwebs pretty quickly once they're released, but at least it's not a week in advance =p

For sure.

While we're on that Volgarr shit, look at dis: http://steamcommunity.com/app/247240/discussions/0/792924412109486832/

Volgarr is built off a DX7 renderer, but since some people have had issues with it, the dev is writing a DX9 renderer from scratch. I don't know much about this stuff, but it's pretty cool that they are doing this.

 

[NervousXtian]

That is the longest Twitter thread I have ever seen! Hard to keep track of information that way.

They seem to have totaled the amount of copies downloaded off of torrent sites, then compared them to their sales numbers to get that data.

Checking torrent stats, it's a relatively decently seeded torrent right now not 1000's but hundreds, but not a lot of leechers then again it's small in size. Not sure how to check how many times it's been downloaded though.. but they had to have sold a tiny amount of copies to come up with that number.

If it was leeched 100k, that's 4k sold.

..but then again it's a perfect storm game for pirates, small in size, retro and probably no real copy protection.

Then again, it's a known risk.. and a very niche game. Still sucks for them.. I've heard it's a pretty decent game.

 

[MarcoZombieCannon]

Get these keys out of my life. Hopefully all goes well.

Thanks for Serious Sam HD! Some weirdness with that though: I got the first one, but I have both in my library after adding just that key, wut.

 

[DTKT]

Piracy still sucks and it would be a better world if more people would buy PC games and support the industry.

(Yes I know that 1 pirated copy doesn't equal one sold, but there is bound to be a portion of pirates that would buy a game if there was no alternative. Especially not a free one)

 

[Turfster]

For sure.

While we're on that Volgarr shit, look at dis: http://steamcommunity.com/app/247240/discussions/0/792924412109486832/

Volgarr is built off a DX7 renderer, but since some people have had issues with it, the dev is writing a DX9 renderer from scratch. I don't know much about this stuff, but it's pretty cool that they are doing this.

On the one hand: yes, a lot of things changed between DX7 and DX9.
On the other hand: we've had DX 9 for 11 years now. It's well documented, so porting shouldn't be that hard. I have no idea why it wasn't done in DX9 in the first place.

 

[neoemonk]

Also part of the Amazon sale is The Walking Dead for $6.25, and 400 Days will be $1.25 on Amazon starting Thursday.

Damn. Need to jump on that. I loved the Walking Dead and just haven't gotten around to picking up the DLC.

 

[SLX]

Steam should be back up and running.

 

[Sajjaja]

Yeah, that Volgarr piracy rate just doesn't seem right at all, but I'm ignorant on the matter so I can't comment. But basing it on download counts of torrent sites seems like a horrible tool for estimating.

Was gonna talk about something else but I forget now D:

 

[Slyjss]

I spent some minutes checking my Humble Bundle account searching for unused keys and here's what I got. Enjoy!

Just quote this message and paste the quote in the thread:

I am giving away 4 Steam keys. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line below that corresponds to the key you want (if you include more than one game, you will be blocked from entering).

Rules for this Giveaway:
- If you are a lurker you are not eligible for this giveaway. You need five or more posts in either the current Steam thread or the previous one to be eligible
- If you won a game from ModBot in the last day, you are not eligible for this giveaway.
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two:

Gish -- MB-3E3F0591FB18FA3A - Taken by Cody_D165. 4 entrants total.
Bastion -- MB-5FAED33C6F9989B5 - Taken by gurm3n
Limbo -- MB-DD35E802E54389FD - Taken by Bayonetta
Cortex Command -- MB-5C9175520F756767 - Taken by bobnowhere. 3 entrants total.

 

[toddhunter]

A big thank you to ToddHunter:

Got something to play this weekend

You are welcome.

The walking dead DLC is interesting. Not so much for the content itself, but the implications for season 2. This is because it is a mixed bag. Of the short stories, some are decent whilst others are plagued by annoying characters that you just want to die. Whilst everything is short enough that it doesn't matter, the second series will presumably have no such advantage.

I see this as the big challenge for Telltale (beyond making the game technically work). The first series had its share of poor characters, some by design and some by execution. However Lee and Clementine were able to hold it together as solid constants that the player could relate to.

Can they go with another "Lee" and another child? You'd think not, meaning the balance will be extremely tough to get right. If the characters are simply not ones you want to keep around for the long haul, the game could suffer.

Yeah, that Volgarr piracy rate just doesn't seem right at all, but I'm ignorant on the matter so I can't comment. But basing it on download counts of torrent sites seems like a horrible tool for estimating.

Was gonna talk about something else but I forget now D:

The piracy rate is probably right...but you'd have to think that a lot of that is people downloading it, just because they can. Importantly the dev doesn't seem to be blaming this for lost sales or anything, more just commenting on how good the people who do open up their wallets are.

I hope they get enough sales to make more games because Volgarr is excellent.

 

[Haunted]

Hm, the badges window doesn't show games I own that have badges anymore?

Or did it just remove the ones from last week and I don't have any of the games that got added?

 

[adaen]

Some Indie-Gala leftovers.

Just quote this message and paste the quote in the thread:

I am giving away 4 Steam keys. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line below that corresponds to the key you want (if you include more than one game, you will be blocked from entering).

Rules for this Giveaway:
- This is a free for all! You can entry for multiple games on the list below. Send an individual PM for each game you'd like to win.
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two:

Gorky 17 -- MB-060E52AC5530AF99 - Taken by Kuroyume. 4 entrants total.
Fairy Bloom Freesia -- MB-62B5F988D8B8A039 - Taken by Garteal. 2 entrants total.
The Showdown Effect -- MB-F733AD982319C7BC - Taken by poopninjamvc3mk. 2 entrants total.
Ether Vapor Remaster -- MB-90E7ED4A50E9F315 - Taken by Purkake4. 7 entrants total.

 

[Widdly Scuds]

awww yee.

After a dry-spell since the summer sale, I got another foil drop today- that's two within a week.

Since I'm excited here's another giveaway:

Just quote this message and paste the quote in the thread:

I am giving away a Steam key. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line below containing the key.

Rules for this Giveaway:
- If you are a lurker you are not eligible for this giveaway. You need five or more posts in either the current Steam thread or the previous one to be eligible
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
- This giveaway has a manual blocklist. The giver has identified members who abuse giveaways and restricted them from participating.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two:

Anodyne -- MB-A3EB41AF69B560D4 - Taken by Clawww. 4 entrants total.

 

[neoism]

ok something is up with my steam :/ when I go to badges its only on the page that shows your badges not your cards you can get, plus I cant go to the market... :/

ok that was weird it logged me out for some reason... -_-

 

[Sajjaja]

You are welcome.

The walking dead DLC is interesting. Not so much for the content itself, but the implications for season 2. This is because it is a mixed bag. Of the short stories, some are decent whilst others are plagued by annoying characters that you just want to die. Whilst everything is short enough that it doesn't matter, the second series will presumably have no such advantage.

I see this as the big challenge for Telltale (beyond making the game technically work). The first series had its share of poor characters, some by design and some by execution. However Lee and Clementine were able to hold it together as solid constants that the player could relate to.

Can they go with another "Lee" and another child? You'd think not, meaning the balance will be extremely tough to get right. If the characters are simply not ones you want to keep around for the long haul, the game could suffer.



The piracy rate is probably right...but you'd have to think that a lot of that is people downloading it, just because they can. Importantly the dev doesn't seem to be blaming this for lost sales or anything, more just commenting on how good the people who do open up their wallets are.

I hope they get enough sales to make more games because Volgarr is excellent.

I'm in the midst of doing my first play through for Walking Dead and I'm loving it (episode 3 right now). But I can definitely see that there are (or were) some characters that just didn't feel real enough for me to care about them.

I honestly didn't think that Volgarr was that popular lol. I knew it gained some momentum shortly after release, but I didn't think that 96% of all their users would have pirated it. It's kind of a scary statistic, however skewed.

 

[NaM]

awww yee.
http://i.imgur.com/JOCqf.gif[img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/NFj39J5.png[img]
After a dry-spell since the summer sale, I got another foil drop today- that's two within a week. [/QUOTE]

I never got a foil and I'm level 30.

 

[Salsa]

ok something is up with my steam :/ when I go to badges its only on the page that shows your badges not your cards you can get, plus I cant go to the market... :/

its not letting me lists items on the market. Probably just gettin back to normal since steam was down just now

 

[Turfster]

Hm, the badges window doesn't show games I own that have badges anymore?

Or did it just remove the ones from last week and I don't have any of the games that got added?

Probably the latter. Games that you haven't played in a while get removed.
If you have a badge, it goes back to just showing it, otherwise the game "disappears" (thankfully, because otherwise the page would be interminable)

 

[Garteal]

Damn, thread 7 already? The Steam thread is going way too fast for me.
It's amazing to see so many generous people hosting all these giveaways. Thanks for them!

Does anyone have a list of the upcoming games for Steam?
I'm aware of Batman Origins, Assassins Creed and Naruto, what am I missing?

 

[Leon Belmont]

its not letting me lists items on the market. Probably just gettin back to normal since steam was down just now

I can't access to my Inventory! :/

 

[pahamrick]

A few leftovers.

Just quote this message and paste the quote in the thread:

I am giving away 3 Steam keys. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line below that corresponds to the key you want (if you include more than one game, you will be blocked from entering).

Rules for this Giveaway:
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two:

Deadspace Origin Key -- MB-2B045BC200F7A407
C&C RA 3 Uprising Steam -- MB-A77A371DF3E9D115 - Taken by Kyouji. 2 entrants total.

C&C RA 3 Uprising Origin -- MB-E1B806EE7A73DE47

 

[Nabs]

Damn, thread 7 already? The Steam thread is going way too fast for me.
It's amazing to see so many generous people hosting all these giveaways. Thanks for them!

Does anyone have a list of the upcoming games for Steam?
I'm aware of Batman Origins, Assassins Creed and Naruto, what am I missing?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86996728&postcount=16

 

[Grief.exe]

Queue a bunch of Volgarr giveaways to prove the devs wrong.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86996728&postcount=16

Wildstar was pushed to 2014.

 

[Garteal]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86996728&postcount=16

Lol thanks. Just when I don't scroll down enough.

 

[Atraveller]

11 pages while I'm asleep, damn the thread moves fast.

 

[GuardsmanGreg]

I've been playing a bit of Sir, You Are Being Hunted. I was going to buy it for full price but was a couple dollars short, so this midweek madness was a godsend. The game is really tense and atmospheric so far, and feels polished despite being so early on in development. Once I play a bit more I'll type out a more detailed post of my impressions of the game.

 

[Haunted]

Probably the latter. Games that you haven't played in a while get removed.
If you have a badge, it goes back to just showing it, otherwise the game "disappears" (thankfully, because otherwise the page would be interminable)

Huh, first time that's happened. Oh well.

ok something is up with my steam :/ when I go to badges its only on the page that shows your badges not your cards you can get, plus I cant go to the market... :/

hm, maybe something's up after all. Maybe not all Steam services back up again.

 

[Atraveller]

In general I aim to keep stuff I might play near the top in one of the first four categories.

I sort my games with genres, I'm a boring person.

How do you guys tag your games?

 

[Silky]

Does anyone play Warface?

 

[Kuroyume]

Some Indie-Gala leftovers.

Thank you for Gorky!

 

[neoism]

its not letting me lists items on the market. Probably just gettin back to normal since steam was down just now

yeah guess thats why lol but it never logged me out before...

 

[Garteal]

I sort my games with genres, I'm a boring person.

How do you guys tag your games?

I don't. I actually used to; sorting them in PC and Emulation categories, but I stopped doing that since Steam constantly removes my emulator shortcuts.

Thank you very much for the game adaen!

 

[poopninjamvc3mk]

Some Indie-Gala leftovers.

Thanks for Showdown. Been wanting to try it after the destructoid review.

 

[mannerbot]

Oh, that toddhunter!
https://twitter.com/toddhunter/status/392804601860087809

 

[Purkake4]

Some Indie-Gala leftovers.

Thanks for Ether Vapor!

I never got a foil and I'm level 30.

I've gotten 3 and I'm like level 6.

 

[jediyoshi]

Does anyone play Warface?

I am until I get ahold of Ghosts. Been out of the COD loop since MW2, but these dogs are calling me.

 

[morningbus]

I am until I get ahold of Ghosts. Been out of the COD loop since MW2, but these dogs are calling me.

you've skipped the good call of duties.

 

[Clawww]

Since I'm excited here's another giveaway:

Thanks!

 

[Kyouji]

A few leftovers.

Thank you! I participated in the RA3 beta, but never got around to playing the full version after release. Gonna enjoy this standalone expansion from the ghost of Westwood.