RodriGames40
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I was looking at this one too, the FSR3 1080p balanced section to be exact. 31-40 fps at Steam Deck settings... Basically trading blows.
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Switch 2…a true next gen Switch or a Switch Pro?
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I was looking at this one too, the FSR3 1080p balanced section to be exact. 31-40 fps at Steam Deck settings... Basically trading blows.
Guardian Monkey
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Excellent counterpoints.
Sooner
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Sometimes your argument is so ignorant, that's all it takes.
LordOcidax
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Lol, nobody is expecting that… Compared to the SWITCH 1 the Switch 2 is a true next gen, stop dragging the PS5 into to this conversation.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
But Switch 2 is running everything on ultra + RT??
RodriGames40
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Honestly, I am curious. Weird the treehouse didn't give us more footage, but this port is ridiculously impressive considering it didn't look lower than Steam Deck settings.
Onironauta
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Switch 2 is a handheld device, the comparison with XSX and PS5 is retarted and it's not what the thread is about
Even PSP and Vita were far behind (respectively) PS2 and PS3 in pure horsepower, despite being cutting edge at the time
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James Sawyer Ford
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It has a dock, it’s not just a handheld device
Guardian Monkey
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Sometimes people are so blinded by the truth they deny it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Then what seems to be the problem?
Switch 2 is not meant to be the next gen to PS5 or Series consoles.
James Sawyer Ford
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The switch 1 was not a powerful baseline to start from
It was weak even by 2017 standards
Onironauta
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The dock doesn't provide any additional processing power...
Even Steam Deck has a dock, but it ain't no desktop PC
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JaxarGT
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Yeah this. It will be harder to do with the PS6/Nextbox too. The jumps in performance and visuals is getting smaller.
For everyone trying to now label the S2 as a console so it fits their narrative regarding how it stacks up performance wise to the PS5 and XSX, please keep this same energy when it comes to sales threads and how the Switch and S2 stack up to the PS5 and XSX.
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LordOcidax
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What other handheld had the graphic performance of the Switch in 2017? Including phones…
Generic
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Well, it's priced just like them.
James Sawyer Ford
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LordOcidax
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So, they are now competitors because the price? The Switch Oled is $375…
The Lunch Legend
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Damn, what a ripoff! Lol
I have one and it's not a ripoff for me..
The Lunch Legend
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
Nah, I'm saying that it's insane paying full price for a Switch right now. The price should've been reduced ages ago.
Whenever you bought it was a solid deal.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Nah, I'm saying that it's insane paying full price for a Switch right now. The price should've been reduced ages ago.
Whenever you bought it was a solid deal.
Yeah I tend to play lot portable mode so the screen is a big improvement
But for games that are more taxing I tend to play docked
Delivering dated hardware on the trailing edge of technology allows for maximum profits. Not much has changed over the years there.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PS5/XBSs comes with a screen and battery?
SweetTooth
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Nah.. Nintendo invented life itself. Rog Ally doesn't count/s
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Buggy Loop
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And here we have peoples who can't even hear what Rich says, not surprised.
"actually think well he's he's got a 540p pixel count here but that seems to be on the market area shot and that seems to be a transition point into handheld play"
So a marketing reel where a trailer team (and I have a friend who works in such a place in Montreal for a ton of high profile gaming companies), slaps a video on a CG handheld, this section as Rich says
and this is used to pixel count?
Are you peoples stupid? Who would ever pixel count this shit after marketing teams slap footage on a render
I mean it explains peoples voting "NO" I guess.Or you know
Or the pixel count of PS4 Pro for Phantom Liberty
0p
Goes from Switch where it went above PS3 games but WAY under PS4 baseline and now to a console that eclipses PS4... not a generational leap
And that is irrelevant to the question in the OP
My 6 years old daughter has better reading comprehension.
Is Switch 1 → Switch 2 a generational leap?
Easier fucking yes in tech world.
It lept PS4 gen entirely and is somewhere in the crossgen limbo where it'll do things that PS4 never did. Including streaming data really fucking fast like modern consoles as Phantom Liberty's main reason to not go on PS4 was because of HDD. SSD was forced on that DLC on PC too.
Unreal 5 with nanite+lumen. Yakuza 0 4k 60 fps, you remember the resolution on PS4?
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tkscz
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The 540p was Rich counting pixels on a clip that was pasted on a CG model, he even admits that and laugh but somehow people ignored that part and only heard 540p.
Whats more, this port has only been in development for 7 weeks.
It's not exactly a fair comparison as we don't know what it'll be like when finished or even if it's actually running at 540p.
Muffdraul
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I admit it's very close to a Switch Pro, but no. If it was a Switch Pro, you could just put in a Switch game and download an update patch that improves the resolution/framerate etc. with no additional content. That's not what's happening here. This is more like one game getting a PS4 version and a PS5 version situation.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Again, I fail to see the problem. Switch 2 is a generational leap to the Switch. That's what matters.
No one is expecting Switch 2 to go toe to toe with PS5/Series X.
It's a portable console with a dock, it's not a dedicated set-top device.
S0ULZB0URNE
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5×= generation leap.
This is 10x.
This is 10x.
Thats what some were suggesting with the "magical power" of dlss...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
A 2060 with DLSS doesn't compete with a 4080 with DLSS in terms of raw spec. DLSS is not a magic bullet.
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LordOcidax
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Not here… That was a random streamer.
Fbh
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Comparing a small handheld with a home console and going "well it should be just as powerful because it costs the same" is maybe one of the dumbest arguments I've seen in the console war.
I swear some people here will buy a $1200 iPhone, then get home to download Resident Evil 4 remake on it and be completely bewildered because it doesn't run 3 times as well as on a Ps5
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ChorizoPicozo
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it's a true next gen console in relation to Nintendo, but a what cost?.
LordOcidax
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Shifty1897
Member
Which, handhelds usually hit console level performance around 11-12 years after the console release. Look at Gameboy Advance, PSP, DS, etc. So Switch 2 tracks.
Shaki12345
Gold Member
Switch 2 could be more powerful for the same price point? How?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
$449.99
Ritsumei2020
Who did they think I was shilling for?
This is like 2 Switches taped together.
A true next gen Switch would have 8K 240fps oled.
A true next gen Switch would have 8K 240fps oled.
LordOcidax
Member
What price you where expecting?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yep first it was not gonna to be as powerful as PS4 and Steamdeck and now surprise surprise it's not as powerful as PS5, so it's instantly a bad system. Just funny to read is all I'm saying
ChorizoPicozo
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i was not taking about the price
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