You’re the mirror image of an era poster.Lots of SBI sympathizers in here today.....yall can GFY
On topic, the game itself is generic from a gameplay perspective which was the feeling that i got from the previews anyways.
No, I did very specifically say:
Yes, nothing "ABOUT IT" because SBI is involved with this game, duh.
The irony that you're the sweetest baby in this thread lmao.
What the fuck.
Can we just ban all mention of Sweet Babyt outside of the Sweet Baby thread.
I believe it's on PS+ so maybe more players there? The review scores are also middling so not too surprised.
I have done enough research to say definitively that it has.
Your continued need to gaslight and create strawman arguments is the same tactic employed by extremists. Maybe Era is more your pace?
Yet a poster who has played the game says the opposite. I wonder who we should believe, the one who experienced it, or the other loonie who "researched" it via Twitter posts.
I'm not the one crying about SBI and blocking people merely because they're involved with a game lmao. "Destroying gaming", sure. Your takes are the mirror image of era posters. You're just sitting on the other side of the crazy car.
A user with a history of defending this crap, especially when it is being pushed on their favorite plastic box! Definitely hard to figure that one out! /s
Neither am I. But you are the one throwing the hissy fit, refusing to engage in good faith, and throwing childish insults left and right because people are tired of grifters taking hold in the industry.
So rather attack the person rather than the argument? We have a name for this fallacy.
The ones refusing to engage in good faith are the likes of you who so far have in no way defended their stance of the game pushing any kind of agenda because they haven't played it. Your sloppyjoe buddy posted a bunch of tweets that had very little to do with the content of the game and went on a tangent about SBI "destroying our hobby". He rightfully got laughed at yet here you are backing him with the same nonsense. Pray tell, what kind of agenda is being pushed with this game to justify your overreaction?
Everyone is laughing at you and your buddy. I have no love for SBI, but you guys are completely ridiculous. As I said before, you're the mirror image of era posters.
No one is defending SBI and certainly not me. I'm defending shitting on a game merely because SBI is involved with it. I think that some of the stuff the game does is awesome and stated the following in the demo thread:
You haven't played the game and when I brought up a poster who has, you attacked his character rather than what he said. I then asked you directly what kind of agenda the game is pushing since you've apparently done your research on it, and this is your response. And you have the nerve to say that I'm not the one debating in good faith. Not a single counterpoint from you. None. Just "you project and gaslight", obviously not knowing what these terms even mean.
I pointed out the users history and tendencies. No where did I “attack” their “character”.
This is the response to someone who refuses to engage in what people actually say, instead twisting their words and making radical assumptions to dismiss and demean the other users.
It is clear you are unable to handle a real conversation and project your failings and misunderstandings onto others. Yes, every post of yours involves some sort of gaslight attempt, strawman argument, or other logical fallacy.
You're using their character as an indictment to their credibility. You're not addressing the argument they put forth but who they are. This is what we call an ad hominem, but I suspect you knew this.
And still nothing about this game. At this point, it's clear you're full of it and your "research" amounts to a whole lot of nothing. You have no interest whatsoever in discussing it as I've repeatedly asked you about the game and what kind of agenda it pushes but you blatantly ignored it every time.
Oh, and this here isn‘t a hissy fit and refusing to engage in good faith for you?
Last time I checked GFY wasn‘t the best way to engage in good faith.Lots of SBI sympathizers in here today who signed into their GAF accounts by mistake instead of their Reeee ones.....yall can GFY
Well for what it's worth, I played over an hour and it isn't bad to be honest?
Well...fuck.
Not to mention with the ongoing Russia/Ukraine incident, I dont' see them wanting to go near Red Alert any time soon.
Red Alert 2 would've been a nice bonus. I am actually more interested in Tiberian Sun (which is one of the best games ever made, imho).
I fixed it for you.
SBI and similar consulting companies are a cancer for the industry. They need to be removed already or they simply will grown.
And that's the problem. The well has already been poisoned and barely anyone in this thread or elsewhere who are caring to discuss the quality of the game itself. There's no point in making an |OT| if everyone chooses to talk about everything but the game itself.
I agree it must suck.
We don’t even have the full detail of what role SBI played in this game. That would take actual investigatory research that a lot of people aren't willing to do. An example of research:
No one here has played the game to confirm or deny the existence of propaganda in the video game. It is an assumption being made from an assumption. I just don’t see the fairness in that.
Wouldn't it be just as naive to think the opposite point of view with zero evidence? Neither of us have played the game yet you're taking a hard stance based on assumption.
No, I'm literally not. I'm asking people for evidence, and I'm being met with 'because bad company is bad and anyone who associates with them is bad'. Again, how is this any different than era's way of thinking?
I don't know, maybe if someone out there provided the thread with actual evidence of political propaganda in Tales of Kenzera Zau and additionally evidence that SBI is being paid per copy sold of this game, I would believe you more.
I doubt EA had high expectations to begin with. Feels like we're going through a phase where publishers test the market with social/identity focused games to see how they do. When the games inevitably fail to move the needle publishers will move on.
As I explained before, this is era logic. Remember when they outright banned Hogwarts Legacy from being discussed because the author of the IP is "transphobic", without caring about supporting a developer that doesn't necessarily share those views, nor acknowledging that the game has nothing transphobic about it? It was a guilty-by-association conclusion which is exactly what is being done in this thread. I like to think Gaf posters are more nuanced and reflective than this.
No one is banning discussion of the game. People are saying they refuse to play games that involve a particular company that is known for pushing political agendas, hiring active racists, and being awful writers. Trying to claim this is akin to "banning" discussion is idiotic and further shows how far you reach for disingenuous assertions for strawman arguments and gaslighting.
Sucks to be them. If you enjoy the game, continue to enjoy it. Don't complain because some of us refuse to touch a game that involves this particular company. That is our choice, just as it is yours to enjoy and buy games that involve said company. DEI has and always will be a racist concept that many of us want absolutely nothing to do with. SBI didn't suddenly create DEI nor were they the first to help push it in gaming. The developer had all the time in the world to realize that DEI is a cancerous, regressive concept.
The fact that you continue to claim this says all we need to know about why are you going so hard trying to silence, gaslight, and create strawman arguments in this thread.
