Sybrix
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Isn't CDkeys cheaper.
Are CDKeys sending out the keys yet?
Isn't CDkeys cheaper.
It makes sense to play it on a subscription you already own and then buy it when you stop paying for said subscription later down the line if it really is something people will play for years, when the game is most likely going to be significantly cheaper
I don't really undersatand this mentality of "I'll pay full price to support the developer" either, shouldnt Microsoft be supporting their developers, they shouldnt need to be relying on charity from customers to make their games sustainable on gamepass
But then why do people buy any MS game on Steam instead of using PC GP?I'd honestly be surprised if less than 5% of people playing this game on console actually pay full price for the game
And most people playing on PC will probably just buy a months worth of Xbox Gold rather than pay full price for it, any sensible person would anyway
Are you saying there would be no hype or interest for this game if it wasn’t exclusive?MS badly need a big exclusive for their consoles. The Xbox'ers badly need a big exclusive to play on their consoles.
The game will easily sell 20m copies on Steam over time. Xbox sales will be dismal.
The bragging from the Xbox fans in this thread, as though Xbox have had any positive contribution to this game, is laughable.
They could shit the game out last year but they delayed it almost a year to polish it out.
I’m not saying it wouldn’t happen if not for Microsoft, but yeah it happened.
I’m not an Xbox guy (PC) but Microsoft buying Bethesda is the lesser evil. If Sony would money hat this one, it most likely would be delayed on PC. And that would be a disaster.
WE’LL BE PLAYING STARFIELD NEXT WEEK!!!!
Bethesda has been owned by Microsoft for almost three years. Implying Microsoft had no impact on the game seems very unlikely. Microsoft was the reason the game got delayed as well, so that extra dev time is certainly positive.The bragging from the Xbox fans in this thread, as though Xbox have had any positive contribution to this game, is laughable.
Bethesda has been owned by Microsoft for almost three years. Implying Microsoft had no impact on the game seems very unlikely. Microsoft was the reason the game got delayed as well, so that extra dev time is certainly positive.
Like how Deathloop and Ghostwire were delayed on PC?
Tell that to Fallout 76.I seriously doubt Bethesda needed Microsoft to tell them the game needed to be delayed.
It just doesn't make any sense to me that you would pay £70 for a game you have barely even seen much of, when you can just pay £10 for a months subscription to see if the game is actually worthwhile or not, and then if you like it, just pay the extra £60 in a months time when the game has most likely come down in price by that extra £10But then why do people buy any MS game on Steam instead of using PC GP?
I counted 13 MS published games in the Steam Top Sellers today before I stopped looking. It’s obvious some people want to play only on Steam and/or want to buy their games (nothing wrong with that).
I seriously doubt Bethesda needed Microsoft to tell them the game needed to be delayed.
No, like Final Fantasy. You never know. I don’t care about your stupid console wars, just release game on PC so it’s safe and preserved.
It just doesn't make any sense to me that you would pay £70 for a game you have barely even seen much of, when you can just pay £10 for a months subscription to see if the game is actually worthwhile or not, and then if you like it, just pay the extra £60 in a months time when the game has most likely come down in price by that extra £10
I understand some people like to play games on steam rather than use the Microsoft store
Tell that to Fallout 76.
Pretty sure as a first party studio they sure as hell would need permission either way.
No I'm pretty sure there would have been a simultaneous PC release so you're just coming up with weak justification
One of the most notorious console warriors is pretty sure. Yeah, okay. Luckily we don’t have to worry about it because it releases on PC day one.
Er you realize its been the no.1 most wishlisted game on Steam since the steam page went up a year or two right?, it also was no.1 best global seller for over 8 days when pre-orders went up 3 or 4 months ago. Its going to be massive on Steam.The Xbox Series install base is smaller than that of the Xbox One in the similar period of time since launch. On top of that you have Game Pass butchering the sales, not only on Xbox but on PC as well, which is the platform where Game Pass is the most popular, meaning that Steam sales are going to be very hurt as well.
Cyberpunk 2077, which was in much better shape on PC than it was on consoles, has only done 20M in over 32 months since launch across all platforms. So PC sales for CDPR's latest must be in the ballpark of 8-12M, being very generous. And that's for a game which was never made available on any subscription service.
So 20 million sales? No fucking way.
My desire to war and superior intellect are not mutually exclusive
And what are you? The arbiter of console neutrality?The fact that you participate in console wars tells everything that we need to know about your intellect.
The fact that you participate in console wars tells everything that we need to know about your intellect.
Are we just forgetting Fallout 76 happened or something?Most people don't need to demo a Bethesda title to know if they're going to like it or not
I don't participate. I lead. Something that requires a great deal of charisma, intelligence and dedication. You bottom barrel feeders can't even compare to me
I hope this is just an act and nobody is seriously like that in real life. It’s just for lols, right? If yes, then fair play, if not, just don’t forget to take your medication tomorrow.
Are we just forgetting Fallout 76 happened or something?
Different team, trying somehting new, and the game is actually in a very good state today.Are we just forgetting Fallout 76 happened or something?
Different team, trying somehting new, and the game is actually in a very good state today.
Are you forgetting Todd and his teams legacy?, Morrowind, Oblivion, Falloit 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4.
I love how Bethesda (Todd and his team) have had a narrative built around them since MS bought them that they are not a very good team, and not the fact that their games are beloved and huge sellers.
I wouldn’t say that’s a narrative, more like an outlier opinion from a select few who prefer safe, boring, hand-holdy forgettable ‘polished’ games.Different team, trying somehting new, and the game is actually in a very good state today.
Are you forgetting Todd and his teams legacy?, Morrowind, Oblivion, Falloit 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4.
I love how Bethesda (Todd and his team) have had a narrative built around them since MS bought them that they are not a very good team, and not the fact that their games are beloved and huge sellers.
The same mistake intentionally or unintentionally is done also for all Ubisoft games, due to the fact all studios are named "Publisher"+"City".Fallout 76 was not made by the same team that made Skyrim, Oblivion and now Starfield.
I see your point but right now Starfield is #3 just below BG3 and Counter Strike GO, it’s clearly selling well and that’s before launch and reviews.It just doesn't make any sense to me that you would pay £70 for a game you have barely even seen much of, when you can just pay £10 for a months subscription to see if the game is actually worthwhile or not, and then if you like it, just pay the extra £60 in a months time when the game has most likely come down in price by that extra £10
I understand some people like to play games on steam rather than use the Microsoft store
that’s all it is. i’m not even a PC ‘gamer’ but I repurchased MCC in Steam after looking at Microsoft’s crappy launcher for 10 minutes.I understand some people like to play games on steam rather than use the Microsoft store
It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on itFallout 76 was not made by the same team that made Skyrim, Oblivion and now Starfield.
this is a pretty ignorant take should we ignore that Respawn are a separate team within EA or just lump them in with the madden team?It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on it
Fallout 76 is a dead game, it is in now way in a "good state", nobody even plays it any moreDifferent team, trying somehting new, and the game is actually in a very good state today.
Are you forgetting Todd and his teams legacy?, Morrowind, Oblivion, Falloit 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4.
I love how Bethesda (Todd and his team) have had a narrative built around them since MS bought them that they are not a very good team, and not the fact that their games are beloved and huge sellers.
That's like saying all Sony games are done by Sony, doesnt matter which developer worked on them.It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on it
Its in a very good state today compared to launch. In fact you can even play it like a standard Fallout game today if you want to, and thats what people wanted in the first place, not a MP Fallout game.Fallout 76 is a dead game, it is in now way in a "good state", nobody even plays it any more
No it isntThat's like saying all Sony games are done by Sony, doesnt matter which developer worked on them.
It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on it
What on earth has that got to do with anything?It was literally made by different human beings, what the fuck are you even trying to say?
Plus Bethesda Austin who made the majority of 76, i cant remember what studio they were called before Bethesda bought them (could probably Google it) but i remember their game dev history left a lot to be desired. In fact i'm not even sure why Bethesdsa bought them really.It was literally made by different human beings, what the fuck are you even trying to say?
What on earth has that got to do with anything?
So were not allowed to judge developers on their past games now, because they may have been worked on by somebody else?
It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on it
What on earth has that got to do with anything?
So were not allowed to judge developers on their past games now, because they may have been worked on by somebody else?
Righty' OIt 100% matters. What the fuck are you smoking?
Bethesda is a publisher w/ many different teams under there belt.
Not to mention Todd Howard didn't even direct Fallout 76. Jeff Gardiner did.
Go check the ratings the last 25 years of Todd Howards directed games & come back to me. Anything he directs turns to gold.
Furthermore, as shit as Fallout 76 was at launch, it's grown quite a gathering since the game is actually good now.
GAF hates every game (that's why I am here).Reality: studio and Game Director with 4 GOTY.
NeoGAF: Bethesda bad.
It was made by Bethesda, it shouldn't even matter which "team" worked on it
Righty' O
Big Rigs 2 is going to be game of the year because they hired somebody else to do the artwork confirmed
You cant seriously be suggesting that Todd Howard and his upper management had zero input into the development of Fallout 76, I mean seriously?lol.....of course it matters. It wasn't Todd Howard's team. We are talking about knowing what to expect explicitly because Starfield is Todd Howard's game so how in the hell does it not matter that Fallout 76 wasn't a Todd Howard game?