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The Last of Us Part II Remastered Announced + Trailer. Release Slated for January 2024
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
vivftp
Member
For the "why does this exist?" crowd it's quite simple:
1. PS4 game is released
2. Sony wants a PC version and thus commissions an updated version
3. As there is work being put in towards an updated version, the PS5 gets an upgraded version too. PS5 always takes precedent though, so the PS5 version comes out first with PC version later.
The PC version hasn't been announced yet (keep in mind the PS5 version leaked ahead of their planned announcement) but it's obvious to anyone paying attention that a PC version is coming.
It's something that many gamers want, and it's an additional revenue stream that doesn't require a monumental effort on NDs part. Plus in this case they apparently had a bunch of newer folks working on it to get them caught up.
They may have planned for this to land within proximity to season 2 of the HBO show but of course that got delayed due to the strikes. That's it. It's really that simple.
cybertailor
Neo Member
too bad it doesn't seem to have gotten a big visual upgrade. I hoped a remastered ps5 version would come closer to he first reveal gameplay trailer that had more realistic enemy face animations and reactions.
Eiknarf
Banned
How much will a new PS5 version be ?Glad I sold my PS4 Version right after I got the Platinum Trophy for 60€
Now I can buy the PS5 Version
Yoboman
Member
You genuinely think they spent 4 years on a port?
They are 700 people strong, more than big enough to slice off a dozen people for ports and upgrades
Puscifer
Member
I mean I hope it at least uses the cutscene assets, the quality they swap in and out of is bonkers. If not far as I'm concerned it's a cash grab
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Since Quake, Quake 2, Portal, Half Life, Cyberpunk 2077, etc.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
you're woke. Literally. You are awake as you type those words.Shitty ultra woke game
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Ok so it’s $40 now on PSN.
The upgrade is 10 to that smooth $50
The hard copies will def be $70
This is just more of a push towards digital. But you save money. Double edged sword videogame bullshit
The upgrade is 10 to that smooth $50
The hard copies will def be $70
This is just more of a push towards digital. But you save money. Double edged sword videogame bullshit
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
That fucking No Return mode has my pee pee on edge...
ThatPolishGuy
Member
Hmm... They will probably release PC version about time season 2 drops on HBO Max to get them sweet tv series monies- and for now PS5 playerbase only. And it looks like it isn't rushed so Nixxies may work on this one. At least that's what I thought about when I didn't saw PC release date. It seems like this is the most logical conclusion. Given the port of the first game was broken on PC or still is. And I don't think they will not drop it on PC, especially when s2 drops on HBO Max- it would be stupid, since it will definitely move some sales like it did with the first game. And by that time everyone on PS5 who was interested in upgrading or buying the native PS5 version will already buy it or upgrade.
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TLOU2 already offered graphical upgrades with the free PS5 patch akin to a lot of these. This is the remastered edition that's more about the added content. Besides it's not like we didn't just get yet another $50 rerelease of Skyrim 'Anniversary edition' so it's not even different to list. There is at least a $10 upgrade path on TLOU2 for this edition.
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MasterCornholio
Member
And many devs charge for content.
What's you point that they all have to add free content to their games?
I can't imagine Blood and Wine not being sold as DLC for example.
You need to accept that it costs money to develop content. They have the right to charge for it if they wish. The only real debate is whether or not the content is worth the asking price.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Developers charge for content all the time.
Resident Evil games charged you for costumes and DLC and most of the DLC content was short.
If I recall correctly, the Grand Theft Auto PS5 upgrade was $10 for a limited time.
Tony Hawk 1+2 upgrade cost $10
This doesn't count all fighters and shooters because they charge money for costumes, characters, stages, and skins.
Resident Evil games charged you for costumes and DLC and most of the DLC content was short.
If I recall correctly, the Grand Theft Auto PS5 upgrade was $10 for a limited time.
Tony Hawk 1+2 upgrade cost $10
This doesn't count all fighters and shooters because they charge money for costumes, characters, stages, and skins.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Starfield's DLCs and expansions would be free, then? And Phantom Liberty should have been free too?
Please say, yes, as I have a few assignments that I'd like you to do for me, free of charge, of course.
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Zathalus
Member
The PS5 TLOU2 was absolutely nothing like any of those. They substantially upgraded the game with new graphical features in those ai listed (some more then others). The TLOU2 patch simply unlocked the frame rate. Personally I think the upgraded PS5 features that don't add new content should be free, but any new content (new levels, new model etc...) should definitely be paid for. The $10 is not the worst upgrade path ever offered, but there are plenty of examples of better ones. As for Skyrim, the Special Edition graphical upgrades were free, the Anniversary Edition added a ton of content and that was paid for (with a discount for Skyrim owners), exactly like I think it should be done.
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MasterCornholio
Member
It's the argument that's really bothering me.
Devs are evil becuase they charge for content. Doesn't really make any sense to me because content can cost money to develop. Its great if we get it for free but there's nothing wrong with devs charging for it.
I guess what we need to focus on is the nature of the content and the price.
If this was a 60$ upgrade I can see why some would be extremely angry with it. But at 10$ it's a lot more bearable given the content they are adding to to the game.
MasterCornholio
Member
Starfield's DLCs and expansions would be free, then? And Phantom Liberty should have been free too?
Please say, yes, as I have a few assignments that I'd like you to do for me, free of charge, of course.
I could have gone with just Oblivion GOTY edition but I paid a little more and got the Deluxe version which contains additional content.
When Oblivion came out I remember buying Shivering Isles for it. I think Knights of the Nine was free though.
I disagree, the patch was similar to a couple you've listed with it offering a performance mode that doubled framerate as well as other improvements like reduced load times.
As for skyrim I'm personally finding it difficult to see how that's better and how it should be done. Charging $50 for a 12 year old game or $20 for the upgrade doesn't seem like better value to me at all. No matter how many creation club mods they decide to bundle. Only those who had already paid for all DLC got the SE and still had to pay double this price to get the anniversary edition. I'm glad they didn't take that approach.
Zathalus
Member
The reduced load times was because you are running the game on the PS5, not because the patch did anything. It literally changed the FPS cap from 30 to 60. That's it.
And Skyrim was obviously the better path, the Special Edition offered a large visual overhaul (way more then this does) and moved everything to a newer API for the PC. Then several years after the Special Edition came out, it got an next gen for patch for free as well. The only thing that was charged for was all the creation club mods which is quite a bit of content, like dozens of weapons, armor, new houses, entirely new systems, new dungeons, and new quests. As I said, graphical update free, new content paid for. Well, unless your name is No Man's Sky.
Is this the worst upgrade path offered? No, it is not. Is it among the best? Certainly not either.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Are the missing shadows and textures from df video also fixed?
Zathalus
Member
Yeah, all the graphical bugs have been fixed. As well as excessive VRAM and CPU utilization. Much shorter load times as well.
Aaron Olive
Member
No… we’re tired of playing old ass games where is the new shit at? Game companies making one game or maybe two in 7 to 10 years is not a good look for the future of gaming it shows creativity is dying.
Truth.
PS3
U1 2007
U2 2009
U3 2011
TLOU 2013
4 games in 1 Gen in a span of 7 years of console launch, U1 one year after launch.
PS4
UC 4 2016
TLOU pt 2 2020
2 games in 7 years of console launch, U4 3 years after launch.
PS5 - 3 years in, 4 years Nov 2024.
Remakes of remakes DO NOT COUNT!
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Imagine saying “wheres the new shit at” at the end of 2023.
KillaJamm
Member
700 people and not a whiff of what they are cooking though? I just think the remake and remaster were a waste of resources thats all, like I said before get the whole team working on a new project but that's my opinion
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You know their multiplayer game was delayed, right?
That was out of Naughty Dog's control and it messed up their release schedule.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Hyped for this in a way now just to see how good it looks again. For £10 it’s a no brainer.
Aaron Olive
Member
Still doesn’t change the fact it was the same shit and last of us related… where are the new IP’s? ND is becoming creatively bankrupt!
Nov 2024 comes…. Now enhancement for PS5 pro
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RickMasters
Member
Agree… basically they been working on yet another remaster and a gaas game based on the remaster they are about to release…that from the sound of things is in development hell…..
Something ain’t right with Sony these days.
Pedro Motta
Member
I'm saving this for later, you gonna be slapped so hard you will ask the mods to ban you from this forum. hahaha
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Is there any enhancement to the performance mode other than better AO? The patch already runs it at a locked 1440p60 and ND have never used a resolution above 1440p (other than 4K) with the exception of the TLOU remastered on PS4 which ran at 1800p60 on the pro.
Offering an unlocked fps isn’t really something I’d call an enhancement.
Offering an unlocked fps isn’t really something I’d call an enhancement.
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Bernardougf
Member
Oh nice a remaster of a three year old game ... how thrilling sony.. thank you.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Where's Sucker Punch's new game? Bluepoint's? Took over 4 years for God of War Ragnarok and Horizon Forbidden West to release.Still doesn’t change the fact it was the same shit and last of us related… where are the new IP’s? ND is becoming creatively bankrupt!
Nov 2024 comes…. Now enhancement for PS5 pro
People who use the term "creativity bankrupt" don't know what they're talking about.
Eiknarf
Banned
I feel like most people would be ok with a brand new native PS5 TLOU Part 1 remaster being $50, not $70.Ok so it’s $40 now on PSN.
The upgrade is 10 to that smooth $50
The hard copies will def be $70
This is just more of a push towards digital. But you save money. Double edged sword videogame bullshit
Maybe it’ll launch at $50???
Moses85
Member
I guess 70€
But I will wait for a Price drop or buy it pre owned.
Yoboman
Member
It's no secret they've changed how they are revealing games. Both TLOU remake and TLOU2 Remaster have been revealed 3 months before launch
Game development also isn't a linear process, pre production and full production have different team sizes. Ports can be done with a small, mostly programming team. They've also split and significantly increased the staff count for the Factions project.
Suffice to say, them not having revealed what they are doing is no indication of issues nor is having smaller projects like this rolling out in the meantime
Eiknarf
Banned
What do you all think the LOST LEVELS will be? Three unfinished environments where we can play through and get a sense of how it might’ve been had they been in the the final game?
Do ya think there will be cut scenes ?
Will we be able to play em “right out of the box”, or do ya think we’ll have to “unlock” it (possibly by completing the game)?
I guess with the commentary - they will tell us where in the game they would have been inserted chronologically
Do ya think there will be cut scenes ?
Will we be able to play em “right out of the box”, or do ya think we’ll have to “unlock” it (possibly by completing the game)?
I guess with the commentary - they will tell us where in the game they would have been inserted chronologically
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I think:
- Unfinished environments/levels to play through.
- Not locked, but would be a part of the story (optional)
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
And the game got nominated for fucking GOTY in 2023. This doesnt include the two latest VR titles for ps5 and Meta quest and the remake.
Yet.. Not a fucking peep from a single one of you complaining about TLOU 2 remaster.
Again. Druckmann. Rent. Free. in your skulls.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Apparently the roguelike No Return mode will have at least 12 different levels
Edit: Huh, they deleted their tweet. Here's a gamesradar article in its place.
www.gamesradar.com
Edit: Huh, they deleted their tweet. Here's a gamesradar article in its place.
The Last of Us 2 Remastered dev says they created 12 different levels for its roguelike mode
No Return features several newly-playable The Last of Us characters
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Midn1ght
Member
I'm currently playing it and can confirm that the game has been fixed for the most part. I wish they would drop an additional patch or two to optimize it even more and fix the last few issue (reflections in water is still blocky in a few area).
No stutters at all as well, it's in a good state but not perfect.
Also, did you play it on a NVMe Drive and did you have a texture streaming issue?
I'm playing on a regular SSD and had a few textures loading a bit late. I know I should upgrade but wondering if this issue is solved using an NVMe.
Zathalus
Member
I did play on a NVMe drive, I don't recall any texture streaming issues but I do have 24GB of VRAM so not sure if that helped as well.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Because threads like this exist.
Drama - Are characters personalities and original writing being replaced by unified political views? Is escapism dying?
(Warning: PLEASE BEHAVE! this is not a homophobic or racist thread. It's not about that but effects of forced politics on our games) Last post on this by @Vick (sweet baby inc thread) was locked due to some craziness but I want us to have good place to discuss this or at least highlight which...
Many gamers and people in general HONESTLY do no want anything outside of what they agree with or are used to; to be a focus in entertainment. And it's even worse if that creative thing gets praise. Every Naughty Dog thread is like this these days.
Mediocre Arachno-Lad
Banned
The only redundant version here is the original PC release. These are all ports to different platforms and I fail to see the word "REMASTER" on any of those boxes. So not sure how that relates.
Rent free in your head much?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's no secret they've changed how they are revealing games. Both TLOU remake and TLOU2 Remaster have been revealed 3 months before launch
Game development also isn't a linear process, pre production and full production have different team sizes. Ports can be done with a small, mostly programming team. They've also split and significantly increased the staff count for the Factions project.
Suffice to say, them not having revealed what they are doing is no indication of issues nor is having smaller projects like this rolling out in the meantime
I wish they WON'T do this for their next big AAA game though. Give us at least one year before the game drops. No reason ND's game should only get 3 months' worth of coverage prior to release. Unless it's a Remaster, then that's okay.
It's the same game being "remade" for different generations of consoles and PC. How is it NOT the same as this?
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