lolsehwagGod damn.
lolsehwagGod damn.
Dont even think he was fit enough to play, should have played Tiwary.He has been absolute shit this tour. What the hell is going on with him.
What about it?So umm... how about that India?
Soon to be 3rd place tonight and will probably miss out on finals the way they're playing.
Indian fast bowlers unable to adjust to Gabba heat. Zaheer was dropped because of it.
Well duh .. but I think its more because of fatigue. Playing 4 tests, 2 t20s and then a big triangular isnt easy. India doesnt have the bench strength of Australia/SL when it comes to quicks.They're from India . They should be familiar with it. I am glad irfan is back. He did good.
Mission accomplished.![]()
Stepping on nerves, one post at a time. Every time I see the blocked post from the troll, seems like my posts are hitting bulleye.
Hey I cant celebrate a whitewash? I cant comment about the other guy ofcourse, pretty sure he has nothing so he's digging up graves.You want to tone this down a bit guys? Some of us enjoy the cricket more than the point-scoring.
Hey I cant celebrate a whitewash? I cant comment about the other guy ofcourse, pretty sure he has nothing so he's digging up graves.
He asked for it (dancing around defeats) and is now getting it in heaps. Sucks to be him.Man, this India - Pakistan shit has to stop lads. I know that cricket makes for lovely banter, but this should be a friendly thread.
First the Ian Bell recall and this, Indian seniors too soft confirmed. Kohli should have been the captain for this match and he would have given Thirimanne a proper send off. Plus Jaywardene claiming high ground? lolcricinfo said:Virender Sehwag has said R Ashwin had warned Lahiru Thirimanne before running him out for backing up too much before the ball was bowled. In the 40th over of the Sri Lanka innings, Ashwin ran the non-striker Thirimanne out, a dismissal that is called - perhaps uncharitably to the former India allrounder - Mankading.
The umpires asked India if they wanted to reconsider the appeal and Sehwag, captaining in the absence of MS Dhoni, withdrew the appeal. It was withdrawn, Sehwag said, "because if we appealed and umpire gave him out, then somebody will criticise that, you know, that was not spirit of the game". Sehwag was asked if it was not soft to let the batsman off even after the warning. "It's soft, but that's the way we are," he said.
Mahela Jayawardene, the Sri Lanka captain, said he was not aware of the warning. When told what Sehwag had to say about Ashwin's warning in the previous over, Jayawardene said the warning should have been official. "I don't know," Jayawardene said. "Then it's… he should warn him through the umpires. You need to ask the umpires if he was warned."
The warning, to be fair to Jayawardene, was not a conspicuous one. It wasn't spotted on TV, nor did Ashwin pull out of a delivery before the actual taking off the bails. However, to be fair to Sehwag and Ashwin, this need not be the kind of official warning that umpires make to bowlers for running onto the danger area. So it is possible that Ashwin had indeed warned Thirimanne beforehand, but that was not spotted by those watching.
However, this only makes it more curious as to why India withdrew the appeal. "Everybody was discussing it, but the umpires called me and I said, 'We can give him one more warning but if he does it again we will [run him out] because that's the ICC rule'," Sehwag said. "If somebody is taking an early start, then the bowlers have the full right to run him out."
The ICC had become more strict in this ruling last year - allowing bowlers to "Mankad" somebody any time before releasing the ball as opposed to the earlier rule where you had to do it before entering your delivery stride - to keep the batsmen from gaining unfair advantage. It even falls under Law 42, which deals with fair and unfair play. Sehwag, though, had no problem with the umpires consulting between themselves and asking the captain to reconsider the appeal, despite the law being clear on it.
"I think he [Paul Reiffel, the umpire] went to Billy Bowden. Billy Bowden is the senior umpire, and he asked him, and they discussed, and they called me, and they said, 'It's your call now. If you appeal, we can give him out'. So I took the decision that okay, we can give him one more warning."
There were suggestions that it was Sachin Tendulkar who persuaded Sehwag to withdraw the appeal, but Sehwag said it was his own decision. Either way, Jayawardene said he wouldn't have even appealed. "I don't play like that," he said.
However, Jayawardene admitted that Thirimanne was at fault. "The rules have changed, I know, to try to make sure there is no advantage given to the batsman," Jayawardene said. "I probably felt there was a little bit of fault in our guy as well in trying to do that, to be honest. But I mean, end of the day, spirit of the game was the winner."
Sticking with the popular opinion, Jayawardene said that it was "nice and clean" to not run a batsman out who is technically indulging in unfair play. "I wouldn't have got the bails off in the first place, to be honest," he said. "Try and keep it nice and clean, and tell the umpires to try and keep an eye on the guy. But if he still keeps doing it regularly, and if he is taking advantage, yes then, but I think they did the right thing in the middle. The seniors got together. Like I said, let's move on."
Thirimanne, though, kept backing up too far even after the let-off. He was careful with Ashwin, but with Vinay Kumar and Irfan Pathan, he kept taking the liberty. Why didn't those bowlers try something similar? "Because they were not aware," Sehwag said. "You have to be aware. Ashwin was aware, and I was aware when I was bowling. You have to be aware when the non-striker is taking a start."
He asked for it (dancing around defeats) and is now getting it in heaps. Sucks to be him.
In the 40th over of the Sri Lankan innings at the Gabba, R Ashwin spotted the non-striker Lahiru Thirimanne was about three feet outside the crease even as his back foot was about to land. Ashwin didn't go through with his delivery, turned around, ran Thirimanne out, and appealed.
For some reason though, the umpire Paul Reiffel didn't rule him out immediately, and went on to consult with the leg umpire, and asked the Indian captain if they indeed wanted to appeal. That, despite the rule changes last year, which clearly state the bowler is "permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."
During the time that the umpires consulted, the Indian team had a change of heart, much like they did with the case of Ian Bell at Trent Bridge last year, and withdrew the appeal. It was a classical case of this beast called "spirit of cricket" coming in the way of the laws of cricket. We criticise the ICC for not doing enough to address the lack of balance between bat and ball, but it was defeated by the players themselves in this case.
The rule change last year - allowing the bowler to run a batsman out any time before he has released the ball as opposed to previously when he would have to remove the bails before entering his delivery stride - was one aimed at taking away the unfair advantage the batsmen gained by leaving their crease early. In 1947-48, incidentally in the same country of hard but fair play, when Vinoo Mankad similarly ran Bill Brown out, Mankad found support despite moral posturing.
This particular ruling falls under Law 42, which deals with fair and unfair play. The laws of the game clearly consider unfair the act of batsmen gaining a few feet before the bowler has even delivered. India, by not continuing with the appeal, only abetted unfair play. The "spirit of cricket" also suggests - although this is not written anywhere - that the bowler should warn the batsman once before going ahead with the run-out, which is probably why India withdrew the appeal. Why such charity, though, for a batsman indulging in unfair play?
Cricket as a sport is full of idiosyncrasies that make it a special sport; this is not one of them. This one clearly puts the bowler, trying to prevent a batsman from unfair play, fight some sort of imaginary guilt before appealing for a run-out. The question "do you really want to do it" comes with a weight, with a suggestion there might be consequences beyond the game in question.
Not that this incident stopped Thirimanne from gaining similar unfair advantage in the rest of the innings. Which is good on him actually. He took note of the warning, stayed in when Ashwin bowled, but kept leaving his crease when lesser-alert bowlers, like R Vinay Kumar and Irfan Pathan, operated. He was aware of the consequences, and he was taking his chances.
There is a school of thought that India actually avoided an incident that could have brought controversy and disrepute to the game. There will be parallels drawn to the Bell run-out that India got reversed during the tea break in Nottingham last year. Opinion was divided back then, but this was clearly more generous from India. You could argue Bell made a genuine, honest mistake back then, but if Thirimanne were to plead innocence here, he would need to come up with a more meaty excuse than the ignorance of Law 42.
Bell was dopey, Thirimanne was trying to gain an unfair advantage. India should have known the difference. Then again, it should never have come down to India. Ashwin had appealed, Thirimanne was not inside his crease, the finger should have gone up immediately. Spirit of cricket should not have been allowed to come in the way of fair cricket.
Man, this India - Pakistan shit has to stop lads. I know that cricket makes for lovely banter, but this should be a friendly thread.
P Name M W L T BP TP NRR
1 Australia 5 3 2 0 2 14 0.433
2 Sri Lanka 5 2 2 1 1 11 0.481
3 India 6 2 3 1 0 10 -0.733
England have now leapfrogged Pakistan to go fifth in the ICC ODI rankings.
Both England and Sri Lanka needed some time to adjust to the conditions. I would not have been surprise if PAK/Eng would have played test match now, england will win easily. Same with Sri Lanka.
In Pakistani english, he probably meant SL would beat SA if they were to play the test series now.What?
What?
In Pakistani english, he probably meant SL would beat SA if they were to play the test series now.
artist formerly known as irfan made me laugh![]()
I think he's taking more shots at me but I'll let it go this time ..
Fucking Ryder. Get's into the 40's and freezes like a possum in headlights. What a fat blubbering idiot. Both McCullum's need a hit round the head with a bat as well, just outright idiots.
What a choke.
Rugby starts this weekend, maybe I can just pretend the cricket season's already over.
Dont worry, one game doesnt change things. They're still the world champions of chokership.south Africa you chokers![]()