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The Project Gotham Racing Appreciation Thread
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That was one fuckin awesome videobenzy said:Not sure what environment that is, but I don't think that version of the McLaren was ever in the PGRs.
Oh, remember this video guys? :O
http://youtu.be/EjhhpcxrW6U
And so is this....Gat dayum, offscreen capture really highlights the amount of effort they've put into creating those locales...the insane amount of building textures, environment objects, the volume of crowd... wow.Fortinbras said:
diffusionx
Gold Member
I liked the motorcycles.
The only thing I didn't like about PGR4 was that they simplified the kudos system a bit too much, and de-emphasized it. Any challenge with kudos was a total breeze.
The only thing I didn't like about PGR4 was that they simplified the kudos system a bit too much, and de-emphasized it. Any challenge with kudos was a total breeze.
Quoting Wario64 from this thread:
Wario64 said:Saw this posted on the other forum
Bizarre Creations did a very impressive job
Click on a thumbnail to enlarge it
-bakalhau-
Member
adelante said:
Erm... The first picture at night... Which one is real life? Honestly.
â Narayan
Member
MSR and PGR4 are my favorites in the series. Wish we could have gotten a Richard Jacques soundtrack in PGR4. Meh, I just play the MSR soundtrack in the background.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yes, PGR2 is the best racing game ever made. Truly fantastic soundtrack as well, title theme in particular.
i think what added to 4s 'failure' was timing as well, it being released in the same year as forza 3.
i think what added to 4s 'failure' was timing as well, it being released in the same year as forza 3.
Spaceman Spiff
Member
Congrats on the wonderful thread, Enzo and Xun. Thanks for the memories.
Looking back on the list of titles in the series only underscores the fact that the team at Bizarre were absolute masters of the racing genre. They imbued the games with genuine character, and any potential future PGR without their unique touch is a PGR I'd rather not have.
Having played every game in the series from MSR onwards, I'm still amazed how each one remains a worthwhile experience with something unique to offer. PGR2 remains the best, though. It's still one of the most diverse, polished, and rewarding games I've ever had the pleasure of playing.
I really need to get back into it one of these days, though I can't be bothered to dig out the OG Xbox. How does the 360's BC PGR2 hold up?
Looking back on the list of titles in the series only underscores the fact that the team at Bizarre were absolute masters of the racing genre. They imbued the games with genuine character, and any potential future PGR without their unique touch is a PGR I'd rather not have.
Having played every game in the series from MSR onwards, I'm still amazed how each one remains a worthwhile experience with something unique to offer. PGR2 remains the best, though. It's still one of the most diverse, polished, and rewarding games I've ever had the pleasure of playing.
I really need to get back into it one of these days, though I can't be bothered to dig out the OG Xbox. How does the 360's BC PGR2 hold up?
Lovegooder
Banned
Any custom soundtrack I create for a racing game always includes tracks from MSR, even a couple of the radio commercials.
Club Paris
SWATCH TIMING!
Club Paris
SWATCH TIMING!
PGR2 was the closest to racing nirvana with a controller. It was like you were dancing and wrestling with the cars, and when you got things right - you flew around the tracks. Edinburgh with it's amazing complexity will always be my fav track in any racing title.
Never had so much fun online as well.
Never had so much fun online as well.
PGR4 is still the absolute best experience I have yet had with my MS wheel. Yes, even moreso than Forza 3(the game I bought the wheel for).
The game just hit an absolute perfect balance of sim and arcade, all handled fluidly on thw wheel with amazing force-feedback and response.
The game just hit an absolute perfect balance of sim and arcade, all handled fluidly on thw wheel with amazing force-feedback and response.
The Mana Legend
Banned
I have only played PGR3 and 4, but 4 was, by FAR, the better game. Fucking fantastic game.
Also, I loved Blood Stone also, and it has made me want to seek out the rest of Bizarre's games.
Also, I loved Blood Stone also, and it has made me want to seek out the rest of Bizarre's games.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Brandon F said:
This. The only other racer I've had as much fun playing with was GRID. I absolutely love it when developers can get the perfect balance between arcade and sim, and PGR4 and GRID did that absolutely brilliantly.
Awesome thread!!
I so remember when my brother phoned me up like a hysterical school girl telling me about this awesome racing game on the Dreamcast.. It of course was MSR..
When PGR came out on the Xbox, it had lost nothing, with PGR2 being my all time favourite, it had the right arcade handling model for real fun, and the graphics where superb at the time..
PGR3 was a bit of a disappointment, it was a great game, just not quite so awesome, however, I still to this day have this as my desktop on one of my PC's, my first photo attempt in the game..
I think PGR4 was a mixed bag, like it was trying too hard to do everything, perhaps it was me, perhaps it was because after 3 PGR's I was burnt out..
But this thread is going to make me pop PGR4 in and give it another go, being a new 360, it'll be from scratch, maybe it'll rekindle the old PGR2 love affair!
I so remember when my brother phoned me up like a hysterical school girl telling me about this awesome racing game on the Dreamcast.. It of course was MSR..
When PGR came out on the Xbox, it had lost nothing, with PGR2 being my all time favourite, it had the right arcade handling model for real fun, and the graphics where superb at the time..
PGR3 was a bit of a disappointment, it was a great game, just not quite so awesome, however, I still to this day have this as my desktop on one of my PC's, my first photo attempt in the game..
I think PGR4 was a mixed bag, like it was trying too hard to do everything, perhaps it was me, perhaps it was because after 3 PGR's I was burnt out..
But this thread is going to make me pop PGR4 in and give it another go, being a new 360, it'll be from scratch, maybe it'll rekindle the old PGR2 love affair!
SolarPowered
Member
Did I ever tell you that you are awesome, Enzo?
I freaking loved this particular racer as a kid and the gifs in the rain thread just flooded my mind with all the good times me and my buds had with the game. PGR4 was a blast and PGR2 started it all for me.
I freaking loved this particular racer as a kid and the gifs in the rain thread just flooded my mind with all the good times me and my buds had with the game. PGR4 was a blast and PGR2 started it all for me.
i nerini del buio
Member
So many hours spent on pgr2 online...
Back then the xbl community was lovely too, no screaming racist kids around. Good times really, miss them so much. Plenty of time for videogames during highschool :/
The thing I loved the most about pgr2 was how you could feel every difference in height on the road and how it impacted the car's handling. Edinburgh especially was tough.
It really was a hardcore game.
Oh, and best car in a racing game, ever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLHr_1htW2Q
Back then the xbl community was lovely too, no screaming racist kids around. Good times really, miss them so much. Plenty of time for videogames during highschool :/
The thing I loved the most about pgr2 was how you could feel every difference in height on the road and how it impacted the car's handling. Edinburgh especially was tough.
It really was a hardcore game.
Oh, and best car in a racing game, ever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLHr_1htW2Q
my ratings out of 5 hearts
F1 ------ <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
F1 97 -- <3 <3 <3
MSR --- <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
PGR3 -- <3 <3 <3
PGR4 -- <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
sadly never had an xbox, so didnt get to play PGR or PGR2
F1 was the most fun ive ever had in a formula one game (and still was up to fa 2010 from codies)
F1 97 was a great upgrade, but i never really got into it as much as the first game
MSR opened my eyes to how dull gran turismo was getting.
PGR3 signalled next gen for me, so far ahead of anything out so far.
PGR4 was the icing on the cake, absolutely stunning.
F1 ------ <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
F1 97 -- <3 <3 <3
MSR --- <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
PGR3 -- <3 <3 <3
PGR4 -- <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
sadly never had an xbox, so didnt get to play PGR or PGR2
F1 was the most fun ive ever had in a formula one game (and still was up to fa 2010 from codies)
F1 97 was a great upgrade, but i never really got into it as much as the first game
MSR opened my eyes to how dull gran turismo was getting.
PGR3 signalled next gen for me, so far ahead of anything out so far.
PGR4 was the icing on the cake, absolutely stunning.
PjotrStroganov
Member
PGR3 had bad physics. 4 did not. 4 wins.
Loved the bikes. They felt and sounded really nice.
Loved the bikes. They felt and sounded really nice.
Loved PGR4... So many amazing memories of that game! Thanks for putting this thread together Enzo.
Loved putting the Gulf livery on all my cars.
For those who want to see more of this gorgeous treasure of a game, here's a link to the Photomode thread.
Loved putting the Gulf livery on all my cars.
For those who want to see more of this gorgeous treasure of a game, here's a link to the Photomode thread.
h3ro said:Loved PGR4... So many amazing memories of that game! Thanks for putting this thread together Enzo.
Loved putting the Gulf livery on all my cars.
For those who want to see more of this gorgeous treasure of a game, here's a link to the Photomode thread.
Wow and double wow at your image. It is just a picture, and I can feel the speed. Kudos to you (pun intended)
Arsenal2022
Member
I remember when the 360 launched, seeing ads of PGR3, and I'll always remember the closing shot of a car skidding to a halt with the London Eye in the background. It was what signalled this gen for me, and when I jumped on 3 years later (lol) PGR4 was one of the first games I got, and I still play it on a regular basis; I played through a year of the career just the other day for no reason apart from just how fun it was, and the split-screen multiplayer is a beast.
And dem graphics. What they could have gone on to produce considering just how good PGR4 was would have blown our minds.
And dem graphics. What they could have gone on to produce considering just how good PGR4 was would have blown our minds.
PjotrStroganov
Member
From the photo thread.
quinntendopower
Banned
loved the series
getting all platinums was always fun
EXCEPT for the 66 corvette sting ray 427 Washington D.C. Cone Challenge. I put holes in my closet doors over that one.
i drove myself almost insane perfecting it. i remember having almost double the Kudos i needed i was getting so many
getting all platinums was always fun
EXCEPT for the 66 corvette sting ray 427 Washington D.C. Cone Challenge. I put holes in my closet doors over that one.
i drove myself almost insane perfecting it. i remember having almost double the Kudos i needed i was getting so many
-MikePriester-
Member
What a thread, thanks Enzo.
I only started on PGR3 and that's the reason I bought my 360 after playing it in Gamestation. Was blown away by the graphics and sound.
PGR4 is still one of my favourite games of all time and will be for a long time. Just had soo much fun playing it and especially bulldog online
Gonna have to play some now.
I only started on PGR3 and that's the reason I bought my 360 after playing it in Gamestation. Was blown away by the graphics and sound.
PGR4 is still one of my favourite games of all time and will be for a long time. Just had soo much fun playing it and especially bulldog online
Gonna have to play some now.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
Some highlights of the PGR games I've played:
Oh, and the medal system of the Kudos challenges in the PGR games is genius. Much better than just having a single, global difficulty setting.
And on a final note, despite its many achievements, Forza will probably never receive the love and affection that the Bizarre games get. It's just too impersonal a game.
- PGR2: An under-appreciated fact of why this game's online play was so great was its online collision physics. Where in the later games (and many other online racers) cars spin out if they even get near each other, PGR2 had a very robust (and surprisingly lag-resistant) collision system, which enabled very close online racing.
- PGR3 had the most realistic physics, with pretty heavy understeer in many cars, which made it difficult to drive for some. Also it had the best in-car view (which surprisingly was a bit worse in PGR4).
- PGR4 had the best career mode of any racer I've played. Still not ideal (the Codemasters F1 games could surpass it, if they get it right), but much better than the random collection of races that are the career in most other racing games.
Oh, and the medal system of the Kudos challenges in the PGR games is genius. Much better than just having a single, global difficulty setting.
And on a final note, despite its many achievements, Forza will probably never receive the love and affection that the Bizarre games get. It's just too impersonal a game.
SolarPowered
Member
Dude, we should totally race sometime. I have not played the game in a while, but I could probably do well enough.enzo_gt said:
I say this because I saw you online. You were probably taking those PGR pictures then and there.
state_vector_collapse
Member
Great thread I still play PGR4 to this day. For me it is probably still the most impressive game of this gen graphics-wise. The detail in the cities is amazing. Even now, watching replays of New York and seeing the draw distance as the cars cross the bridges is breathtaking.
My only disappointment, is that after MSR they never captured London as well as that first game. The central reservations, bollards etc, all added to the authenticity. And it's a pity no other game ever managed to use the custom radio stations in the way PGR2 did - mixing in your own songs with the games D.J's was genius.
I still play PGR4 to this day. For me it is probably still the most impressive game of this gen graphics-wise. The detail in the cities is amazing. Even now, watching replays of New York and seeing the draw distance as the cars cross the bridges is breathtaking.My only disappointment, is that after MSR they never captured London as well as that first game. The central reservations, bollards etc, all added to the authenticity. And it's a pity no other game ever managed to use the custom radio stations in the way PGR2 did - mixing in your own songs with the games D.J's was genius.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Here are my pics from back in the day: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/r.flynn/PGR4/
Shame Bizarre got ideas above their stations and wanted to branch out from the series. No idea why they bothered, their action games were always a disaster a d Blur was destined to fail.
Shame Bizarre got ideas above their stations and wanted to branch out from the series.
No idea why they bothered, their action games were always a disaster a d Blur was destined to fail.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
adelante said:
Damn that looks good.
PGR3 & 3 are still untouched in the graphics department imho!
MidnightCowboy
Member
PGR4 is the best racing game this generation for me. It's just so fun to play. I love the arcade/sim fusion.
KennyLinder
Member
PGR2 is the best. The end.
1500 hours+ online play, absolutely perfect. Best game on Xbox.
Amazing environments, tracks, car choice, handling, online play, voice chat. Perfect. PGR3 was laughable and '4 was just taking the piss. They got bored and added bikes, shut the fuck up.
1500 hours+ online play, absolutely perfect. Best game on Xbox.
Amazing environments, tracks, car choice, handling, online play, voice chat. Perfect. PGR3 was laughable and '4 was just taking the piss. They got bored and added bikes, shut the fuck up.
sechsterangriff
Member
djplaeskool said:
Few racing experiences can compare to driving in London at night (Dreamcast clock) listening to the amazing soundtrack and funny commercials.
Before I had a driver's licence and could go for a drive at night this is what I had. I still put the soundtrack on the player to this day.
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Lovegooder said:
The memories!!! ;_;