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[Ozriel]

The recent Phantom Blade zero trailer was also mindblowing.

 

[RoboFu]

 

[Brakum]

The FROM formula makes sense when you're like a knight in bulky armor or something, I agree it's been overdone here lately and the return of faster action games feels refreshing.

to be fair from also made the best fast paced melee action game game ever by a long shot

 

[NeverYouMind]

to be fair from also made the best fast paced melee action game game ever by a long shot

 

[Brakum]

Oh you should definitelly check it out. It's called sekiro

 

[NeverYouMind]

Oh you should definitelly check it out. It's called sekiro

The rhythm game?

Have fun with that...

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[Gp1]

I'm old, I still remember when Ninja Gaiden games weren't about having fun.

The name "The ancient ship of Doom" is not by chance

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

lol... first of all it's not a souks like, secondly the combat is so much worse than in multiple other similar games

It's very much a Souls inspired game. Same basic gameplay formula eg semi open levels, and the game essentially being a boss rush game. Fortunately the developers did not make a carbon copy and instead put their own twist on upgrades, mobility, combos and spells. The combat in Wukong is much better than any FROM game I've played.

 

[BennyBlanco]

The original NGB is even better OP.

 

[Gojiira]

One of my long term favorites. I remember when the series first got redone on the original Xbox and it was a hard bitch back then. This game has everything you want in an action game.

Save girl with big tits = check
Gruesome violence = Check
Kickass smile on your face gameplay = check
Sweaty palm with heart pounding moments = check
Fast Furous and Fun = Check
Despite being old it still holds up with the best of them = Check

You want to play a From software game that has a high frame rate, doesn't make you feel like your moving in water, generally more fun, and more challenging? If you have not played this and like From software games, you owe it to yourself! I play in on an emulator with 4k and 120FPS and it it glorious!

Oh lol what a stupid take.
Different type of game, completely not comparable.
NG is closer to DMC and erm DMC3 and 5 are still the best Character Action Games ever made period. They have their own flaws sure, but yeah still the best.
To add to that Sekiro does NG better than NG…

 

[Spiral1407]

The basic texture work is worse, as it pretty much always was when going from the PS2/Xbox gen to PS3 gen.

What are you even talking about?

 

[Dr. Acid Avatar]

Am I the only one who hits the camera button in Ninja Gaiden like a fucking maniac? I'm hammering that button every millisecond.

 

[Lionel Richie]

The original NGB is even better OP.

Absolutely and it's worth getting an Xbox for it and NG2.

Edit: not the OG Xbox, the Series Ass or Ex.

 

[NeverYouMind]

Am I the only one who hits the camera button in Ninja Gaiden like a fucking maniac? I'm hammering that button every millisecond.

Pro tip on PC: just create a macro which presses it on every directional button press. Otherwise,

It recenters after every izuna drop.

 

[KàIRóS]

Why are you comparing a Hack and Slash to an Action RPG to begin with?

 

[Codes 208]

Scientists hate him for it.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WILL SHOCK YOU!!

 

[Kacho]

That's dumb. Fans don't support great character action games, that's why the genre's in decline, everyone's like no, 1, no, 2, no, 3, no, vanilla, no, black, no, sigma, no, remake, no, remaster, trashing the rest whether it's Bayonetta, DMC, Ninja Gaiden or whatever so we get one per aeon. Support great games you enjoy rather than try to elevate one by trashing something you don't like a toddler which in the end works against it, like it can't be good on its own merits and all you can do is say something else is trash, big woop, so you say it's better than something you deem trash, what a high bar

It’s true. I’m guilty of this myself.

 

[kevboard]

It's very much a Souls inspired game. Same basic gameplay formula eg semi open levels, and the game essentially being a boss rush game. Fortunately the developers did not make a carbon copy and instead put their own twist on upgrades, mobility, combos and spells. The combat in Wukong is much better than any FROM game I've played.

Souls Like:

-RPG Stats with build opportunities
-Set Respawn Points
-Currency gained from enemies
-Loss of currency upon death with 1 chance to get it back

WuKong satisfies only 2 points here, which is the set respawn points and currency gain from enemies. missing the most important last one, and that last one needs to be there for it to even be souls related, as it's the one defining thing that truly differentiates them from other action RPGs... and WuKong isn't even an RPG either... which is the other prerequisite.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

What are you even talking about?

This applies to this entire thread.

Just...what?

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

The only way this thread makes sense is if the only From game OP has played is Ninja Blade

 

[HAYA8U5A]

The Otogi games were no slouch back then either on the OG Xbox. Ninja Gaiden, Otogi, Crimson Sea.......

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

If you looked at the big bad samurai or door to monastery side by side there would be no way to come to that conclusion.

I've looked at screens of both and I can pretty much tell you Black has sharper textures.

What are you even talking about?

7th gen was king of blurry low res textures, they tried to make up for that with a lot of bells and whistles but sometimes PS2 and Xbox games had sharper texture.

I think it had something to do with RAM or something, but I remember replaying Max Payne 2 on PC in 2010 and my jaw dropped at much higher res and sharper it's textures were compared to anything new at the time, thankfully with the advent of the 8th gen consoles it got to where you could have both, but yeah.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Meanwhile I'm yelling at everything that isn't NES Ninja Gaiden to get off my fucking lawn.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

But from software games have a….

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

definitely not more challenging, souls games are by design filled with a ton of bullshit to cheaply fuck the player up, enemies doing insane damage and a huge focus on patterns to succeed; considering how you can blast through nearly every encounter with ultimate techniques in NG2, it was never really all that difficult.

 

[kiphalfton]

Weird comparison, but okay

 

[Bonfires Down]

There’s room for both. Ninja Gaiden for those who want a fun and engaging game, and FromSoft for those who want something annoying and repetitive.

 

[Represent.]

every game makes FROM combat look like ass. They have ass combat. Slow, clunky, ugly, poorly animated, horrible hit reactions, and weapons feel like paper.

 

[Gaiff]

But from software games have a….

 

[Bernardougf]

Opinions how do they work ?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

From Software Soulsborne games. SS tier

Tecmo/Team Ninja's Gaiden style games. A tier

Cheap knock offs of From Software games like Lies of P.  C and B tier

 

[RedC]

The only way this thread makes sense is if the only From game OP has played is Ninja Blade

Still wish it was made backwards compatible on Xbox One.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I've looked at screens of both and I can pretty much tell you Black has sharper textures.

Black has no depth to its textures. A nearly imperceptible reduction in sharpness is hardly a deal breaker.

 

[clintar]

I just want to play a from soft game

 

[Durin]

Ninja Gaiden 2 is a good game but has some weak/cheap sections like the constant Rocket Spamming which artificially inflate the difficulty and are unnecessarily frustrating. I remember playing through it back in the day. and thinking "What the fuck is this nonsense?" Did they tweak any of those weaker aspects in this "remaster"?

Also, not a fan of Ninja Gaiden 2's dismemberment system. Once you get the scythe that lets you cleave multiple enemies easily with each strike, you're doing more and more finisher animation kills that trivializes the need to do much comboing in the combat system.

Still a solid game, but Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the best character actions games ever made, even with dated visuals.

 

[Rickyiez]

Huh this is like comparing apple to orange. Devil may cry V Vergil smokes any Ninja gaiden though

 

[Gamer79]

Oh lol what a stupid take.
Different type of game, completely not comparable.
NG is closer to DMC and erm DMC3 and 5 are still the best Character Action Games ever made period. They have their own flaws sure, but yeah still the best.
To add to that Sekiro does NG better than NG…

Your face is stupid.

I believe it's a fair comparison.

 

[NeverYouMind]

Huh this is like comparing apple to orange. Devil may cry V Vergil smokes any Ninja gaiden though

Nah, he is like Ayane on her period and Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge is not even a high mark for the series.

 

[Arachnid]

Oh lol what a stupid take.
Different type of game, completely not comparable.
NG is closer to DMC and erm DMC3 and 5 are still the best Character Action Games ever made period. They have their own flaws sure, but yeah still the best.
To add to that Sekiro does NG better than NG…

They are very comparable though lmao

Ninja Gaiden Black is the best character action game ever made.

And no, Sekiro does not do NG better than NG. Any Souls game is basically NG casual mode. Sekiro is basically parry simulator. Your first playthrough will always be the hardest, and the second you figure out the pattern recognition and parry loop, and the rest of the game is cake. Meanwhile, the skill ceiling in NG2 is arguably the highest of any action sword fighting game. NG2 master ninja is miles beyond DMC3 Dante Must Die. The amount of perfect precision and efficacy needed in every fight on the fly is fucking insane. The difficulty spike from normal to hard is brutal, and master ninja is 10x worse.

 

[ChoosableOne]

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Combat - Ninja Gaiden

From Soft - Art style

They have different strengths.

 

[El Muerto]

Nioh makes Dark Souls look like ass. In both graphics and gameplay. But Ninja Gaiden is a separate beast and shouldnt be compared to Fromsoft games.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Not 100% comparable in my opinion. The gameplay it's more like a satisying and tough version of the undemanding cookiecutter freeflow system from Spider-man and not like Souls games at all.

 

[Salmonboy]

I'm so tired of all the effects all at the same time. It looks like any modern Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter game. Soul-less

 

[darrylgorn]

It's somewhere in between Bayonetta and DS.

 

[GymWolf]

Ninja gaiden is literally another genre unless you consider from games as character action games ala dmc/bayo.

Next what, we compare the dishonored series against latest dooms because you have a gun and first person view in both??

 

[Thief1987]

Any semi-competent action game make fromsoftware games play and look like ass, it's not a high bar to reach

 

[Esppiral]

From software games already look and play like ass, they don't need help to prove that.

 

[Dorfdad]

Ninja Gaiden 2 is a good game but has some weak/cheap sections like the constant Rocket Spamming which artificially inflate the difficulty and are unnecessarily frustrating. I remember playing through it back in the day. and thinking "What the fuck is this nonsense?" Did they tweak any of those weaker aspects in this "remaster"?

Why I hated and will never play them. They built cheats into boss fights to artificially piss you off and extend the gameplay. I broke a 360 disc and controller playing that game. I swore if any Ninja Gaden games since.