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Titan submarine for Titanic tourism - Nightmare fuel
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01011001
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I wouldn't say that. those are usually using high tech stuff. while this sub looked lile the weekend project of some dad that worked on it for 5 years every weekend lol
I agree, but i still think its going to make thrill seeking rich dudes think twice about that sort of thing for a while.
Dr.Morris79
Member
(PJW link removed, culture war political commentary)
If, wait, what?
This cant be all true, can it? If so, then what in the actual hell is going on in this modern world?
If, wait, what?
This cant be all true, can it? If so, then what in the actual hell is going on in this modern world?
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
In case anyone wants to see the full video of that CBS story about this company from 6 months ago.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
"OHHH WOW! LOOK AT ALL THE GUTS IN THERE"
"Completely unexpected, but totally awesome"
That probably resonated slightly differently when they recorded than it does at the moment.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
"Ok guys. As a reminder when the reaction starts happening we all agreed to act super amped up at the same time. Let's make sure we time it right because reshooting it will be a pain in the ass"
jufonuk
not tag worthy
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www.instagram.com
Popped on my insta timeline no idea who the guy is.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
It's pretty weird, I don't know if it seems so jarring because of the current news story or if it just seems like a horrible way to do science broadcasting, but you're right, that was definitely the brief!
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Teenager who died on Titanic sub was ‘terrified’ but went because it was Father’s Day
Azmeh Dawood told NBC News that her nephew only agreed to go on the expedition because it was important to his father
www.independent.co.uk
Sad. The teenage son was scared about taking the trip, but went to please his Dad as it was father's day.
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SJRB
Gold Member
Rocket propulsion is a whole different level compared to letting a titanium coffin sink in the ocean, honestly.
Jeff Spicoli
Member
At 4000 meters, It happens much faster.
Maybe they feel nothing
Tweet is missing. What did I miss?
Ammogeddon
Member
From what I’ve been hearing Oceangate were warned against using a composite hull but they went ahead with it anyway.
I know carbon fibre is strong and light but having used a number of carbon fibre components on my bike I know it’s not unbreakable and prone to delaminating.
I just don’t understand why they would continue pushing to use a material that isn’t fit for its intended purpose.
I’m sure this will all come out in the investigations.
I know carbon fibre is strong and light but having used a number of carbon fibre components on my bike I know it’s not unbreakable and prone to delaminating.
I just don’t understand why they would continue pushing to use a material that isn’t fit for its intended purpose.
I’m sure this will all come out in the investigations.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Serious question, but did they not test the material/sub first without humans to ensure it could cope with those pressures?
Surly it would have been logical to send multiple test subs without humans on board down to those depths to test the material. Did they even do this, or did they just build it and hope for the best on the first try?
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Gotta respect James Cameron. He is known for not mincing his words.
Props to James Cameron for not holding back on live tv in pretty much saying this idea was catastrophically retarded from the start.
kuncol02
Banned
It wasn't first trip of that type of ship to Titanic. That submersible had to even be rebuild do to signs of fatigue after only bunch of tests. They had to know it's unsafe. What they were doing was way beyond neglect.
John Marston
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IlGialloMondadori
Member
Cameron in his latest interview says they have data they had emergency signs, and they dropped weights to make an ascent. Seems like they were alerted to the carbon fibre delaminating and tried to ascend and it imploded. They’ve known this for probably the entire week.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
I have to hand it to the Oceangate guy.
At least he had the bravery/stupidity to stand by his product. Can’t fault him on that, he stood by his product. But much to his detriment. It bloody killed him and unfortunately others. What ever our thoughts on the occupants of the sub. They were human beings and that was a horrible way to go. Regardless of wether they felt anything or not. They were humans before this and now they are just mush. What a fucking nightmare scenario.
Why they got into it in the first place. Is way beyond me?
(Semi rhetorical question). Yeah it must be great to have those bragging rights and think of the interesting stories they thought they were going to tell. Etc
More money than sense sometimes.
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GnomeChimpsky
Member
Lead content designer at Blizzard weighs in:
SJRB
Gold Member
Lead content designer at Blizzard weighs in:
In come the smoothbrain room temperature IQ takes from the eternal self-proclaimed victims.
"Their existence is an act of extreme violence," mate do you even know what those words mean? Go out and touch some grass.
TrebleShot
Member
Well yeah but you have to still hope and search, they would hardly say without definitive proof that they died, you have to consider families etc.
Interfectum
Member
He deleted the tweet, tweeted he’s ‘in a bad place’ then protected his tweets. What a cowardly piece of shit.Lead content designer at Blizzard weighs in:
LostDonkey
Member
Turned to man paste in an instant.
LegendOfKage
Member
WTF is wrong with people? I went to verify that tweet myself, but the account is now locked, so I'm guessing it's real.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
They fired the dude that told them it was unsafe.
2 former OceanGate employees voiced safety concerns years ago about the hull of the now-missing vessel | CNN
Two former OceanGate employees separately voiced similar safety concerns about the thickness of the now-missing Titan submersible’s hull when they were employed by the company years ago, and a statement from a research lab appears to show conflicting information about the engineering and testing...
www.cnn.com
Also, according to James Cameron, one of the fatal flaws of the design is that the hull will get successively weaker after multiple dives, so the thing will be fine the first few times. Until it's not. And then you're dead.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Re: smooth brains not mourning billionaires: There's a pretty great stat that's been floating (unintended) around for a few years that goes a bit like this:
If you earn $5k a day every single day, how long will it take to become a billionaire?*
The number might surprise you.
In the case of earning $5k a day (putting you firmly in a fraction of the 1%) the answer is that you're never ever, ever, ever going to make it to billionaire status. Not unless you live to be around 500 years old. To get to be a billionaire with a daily income within a still fairly long working career, you need to be making more like $55k every day. Every single day.
If that sounds far fetched:
50 years at work.
50x365 - total number of days: 18250
1,000,000,000 (a thousand million) divided by 18250 = 54,794
That's a salary of about $20m for 50 years. And you have to keep all of it, pay no tax. And it has to be your salary from the age of 20. And you have no days off. Then at 70 if you spend none of it, you'll just about be a billionaire.
So, when you think of how insane that number is, how difficult it would be to burn through that money arriving daily if you weren't actively trying to do so, and how in the case of the wealthiest billionaires they're getting significantly more than that daily - Bezos has $150bn - and then consider the things that money could do, I can understand how people end up thinking that billionaires aren't the brightest and best of us, but instead the most shameless and selfish, I think that's why some people don't care much when one of them dies.
*https://www.truthorfiction.com/if-y...ld-you-still-have-less-money-than-jeff-bezos/
If you earn $5k a day every single day, how long will it take to become a billionaire?*
The number might surprise you.
In the case of earning $5k a day (putting you firmly in a fraction of the 1%) the answer is that you're never ever, ever, ever going to make it to billionaire status. Not unless you live to be around 500 years old. To get to be a billionaire with a daily income within a still fairly long working career, you need to be making more like $55k every day. Every single day.
If that sounds far fetched:
50 years at work.
50x365 - total number of days: 18250
1,000,000,000 (a thousand million) divided by 18250 = 54,794
That's a salary of about $20m for 50 years. And you have to keep all of it, pay no tax. And it has to be your salary from the age of 20. And you have no days off. Then at 70 if you spend none of it, you'll just about be a billionaire.
So, when you think of how insane that number is, how difficult it would be to burn through that money arriving daily if you weren't actively trying to do so, and how in the case of the wealthiest billionaires they're getting significantly more than that daily - Bezos has $150bn - and then consider the things that money could do, I can understand how people end up thinking that billionaires aren't the brightest and best of us, but instead the most shameless and selfish, I think that's why some people don't care much when one of them dies.
*https://www.truthorfiction.com/if-y...ld-you-still-have-less-money-than-jeff-bezos/
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Yeah, I gather that's correct, but also that they could have scanned the carbon fibre in some way to check it's integrity after each dive, but that wasn't really what this operation was up for doing.
Herbspiceguy
Member
Hamish Harding, 2 years ago, and his visit to the bottom of the Challenger Deep using a 2 man titanium vessel (37 million USD cost) made by Triton (the company James Cameron mentioned in his recent speaking out on the Titan):
His big money probably got him to board that vessel, but he seems quite knowledgeable and aware of the extreme circumstances and risks involved. Makes it more bizarre why he'd join on the Titan.
From what I've read, Shahzada Dawood wasn't a deep-sea/submersible nut like Hamish, but was obsessed with the Titanic.
On a side note:
This Chinese submersible went as deep as the Triton one:
Seems like a manned ultra deep-sea race between nations, of which I'm still not sure which vessel/country actually set the current depth record. Also, I love the design, it's like a submersible you'd see in a Ghibli production.
As someone who hasn't really paid a lot of attention to deep-sea exploration, this stuff is fascinating to me.
His big money probably got him to board that vessel, but he seems quite knowledgeable and aware of the extreme circumstances and risks involved. Makes it more bizarre why he'd join on the Titan.
From what I've read, Shahzada Dawood wasn't a deep-sea/submersible nut like Hamish, but was obsessed with the Titanic.
On a side note:
This Chinese submersible went as deep as the Triton one:
Seems like a manned ultra deep-sea race between nations, of which I'm still not sure which vessel/country actually set the current depth record. Also, I love the design, it's like a submersible you'd see in a Ghibli production.
As someone who hasn't really paid a lot of attention to deep-sea exploration, this stuff is fascinating to me.
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jufonuk
not tag worthy
Thought experiment.
How comes this question/statement
“I made this 250k sub. Some parts are off the shelf and it is controlled by a Logitech controller Also we didn’t want anyone nor inspirational to design it. It’s also not certified
Wanna go see the titanic with me ?
It’ll cost you though “
If I posed this question to anyone they would tell me to fuck off.
But anywhere any sniff of anyone with money who made the above. gets involved it’s suddenly
“Yea please sign me up” ?
How comes this question/statement
“I made this 250k sub. Some parts are off the shelf and it is controlled by a Logitech controller Also we didn’t want anyone nor inspirational to design it. It’s also not certified
Wanna go see the titanic with me ?
It’ll cost you though “
If I posed this question to anyone they would tell me to fuck off.
But anywhere any sniff of anyone with money who made the above. gets involved it’s suddenly
“Yea please sign me up” ?
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Okay so I've got a long way to go then:
And obligatory: Schrier can go fuck himself.
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EarsOfASnake
Member
Yup, I don't understand why you have signed up for this; especially Hamish Harding who has been in a legit, properly certified, submersible vehicles.
Cyberpunkd
Member
The same reason why companies see regulations and safety requirements as "killing innovation".
kuncol02
Banned
There is no deep-sea race. Technology is so well known and tested that even private expeditions (Cameron) can travel to bottom of Challenger Deep.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Sad for that kid who just lost his Dad, obviously nobody thought they were going to die, but it's surprising that Harding knew what a professional outfit looks like and went ahead with Titan. I wonder if he just got blasé.
Cyberpunkd
Member
He also dove to the deepest point of the planet - Challenger Deep - in a submersible he co-designed over 6 years. This guy is one of the foremost experts on deep water exploration, he just moonlights as a film director in his spare time.
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darrylgorn
Member
This is what happens when you don't enforce any regulatory standards.
Fucking CNN man. Headline RN:
"Authorities are scouring the ocean floor for insights into what caused the implosion that killed all five passengers"
Insights to what caused the ... implosion. I have a fucking insight as to what causes implosions at 13000 feet underwater CNN, but I'ma hold onto it til they finish checking the ocean floor for clues.
**edit: they changed the headline
"Authorities are scouring the ocean floor for insights into what caused the implosion that killed all five passengers"
Insights to what caused the ... implosion. I have a fucking insight as to what causes implosions at 13000 feet underwater CNN, but I'ma hold onto it til they finish checking the ocean floor for clues.
**edit: they changed the headline
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TastyPastry
Member
how exactly did they die? i hope it was at least painless and quick
LordCBH
Member
Bolted by hand, sir. All the bolts on that thing were hand tight. Because that’s safe lol
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