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[Neuromancer]

That's a pretty weak argument. Zampelli is comparing all gamers who played the game. And you are using a very selective sample of achievement minded gamers who use a particular website.

That comparison is bullshit.

Or does raptr have access to all achievements by all players that played the game regardless if they've ever used the site?

Ok tell you what, if you have a better way to track it you let me know. Until then my numbers are the best we have. Theres no site that tracks all achievements and of course there's no way to track achievements of offline gamers (who I would argue are probably more likely to play the campaign).

I think his 5% is the bullshit here, personally.

 

[Ryu751]

One last note of discussion, but why are games the only media the fans care so much about review scores. If you didn't make the game, and enjoy it then post some impressions. Who cares if IGN has a different view.

 

[IN&OUT]

I've never played either game, but if things are exactly as you state for each, but TitanFall is just more fun than InFamous, I would certainly hope it'd be scored higher.

I don't mind reviewers scoring TF higher than any other Sony exclusive, its just the amount of nitpicking that magically appear while reviewing Sony games. just wait and see how every technical aspect will be emphasized, nitpicked and blown out of proportion. mark this post for future reference.

Notice how almost all reviewers are brushing aside all these technical details while reviewing TF.

lets just wait and see.

 

[Moneal]

Ok tell you what, if you have a better way to track it you let me know. Until then my numbers are the best we have. I think his 5% is the bullshit here, personally.

his number doesn't even take into account the people that never play the game online. and seeing as 40% to 50% of 360s never connect to live could be a lot.

 

[JLeack]

If you're going to try to call out bias, you probably shouldn't make such a biased post yourself.

I like how he completely disregards all the positives. Good stuff.

 

[Gestault]

Based on a lot of the video reviews I'm seeing, I think having the visuals downplayed as they've been has pushed it to a point where I think the game looks pretty darned acceptable.

 

[hawk2025]

Ok tell you what, if you have a better way to track it you let me know. Until then my numbers are the best we have. I think his 5% is the bullshit here, personally.

There is a better way -- PS4 trophy data straight from the console.

Approximately 35% of people that played Ghosts finished it last time I checked, and it was roughly equivalent to other single player games.

I like how he completely disregards all the positives. Good stuff.

Well, sometimes people do that when they are very biased.


They even see imaginary framerate differences between two versions, for example.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

I like how he completely disregards all the positives. Good stuff.

you're one to talk.

 

[Teddified]

Ok tell you what, if you have a better way to track it you let me know. Until then my numbers are the best we have. Theres no site that tracks all achievements and of course there's no way to track achievements of offline gamers (who I would argue are probably more likely to play the campaign).

I think his 5% is the bullshit here, personally.

For the PS4 trophies I see that 25.1% of people got the "The Ghost Killer" Trophy for COD:Ghost PS4 ed.

 

[Ryu751]

I don't mind reviewers scoring TF higher than any other Sony exclusive, its just the amount of nitpicking that magically appear while reviewing Sony games. just wait and see how every technical aspect will be emphasized, nitpicked and blown out of proportion. mark this post for future reference.

Notice how almost all reviewers are brushing aside all these technical details while reviewing TF.

lets just wait and see.

Reviewers largest weight on their review is whether the game is a new experience. Sony 1st party games have not been the most unique for years. Look at Journey score compared to Resistance 3.

 

[Moneal]

One last note of discussion, but why are games the only media the fans care so much about review scores. If you didn't make the game, and enjoy it then post some impressions. Who cares if IGN has a different view.

because review scores have been known to manipulate consumer buying. and can either create or destroy a game and possibly a gaming community. if this game was bashed by reviews less would have bought it and it wouldn't have near as large a community and might not have a sequel. reviews can go a long way to making games and breaking them too.

 

[Ricky_R]

Based on a lot of the video reviews I'm seeing, I think having the visuals downplayed as they've been has pushed it to a point where I think the game looks pretty darned acceptable.

You've reached stage 5.

 

[djblackice]

There is a better way -- PS4 trophy data straight from the console.

Approximately 35% of people that played Ghosts finished it last time I checked, and it was roughly equivalent to other single player games.





Well, sometimes people do that when they are very biased.


They even see imaginary framerate differences between two versions, for example.

Goddamn. Ether.

 

[Glorified G]

I love how that Canadian paper review is the lowest review score on the meta, and someone said that they're probably the only site not bought with the hype.. or whatever it was. Lmao. TF is really rattling some cages.

My cage will be rattled when I go DD on the game and it takes 12 hours to complete at midnight!

I love that you and question the credibility of one of the biggest publications in Canada that's been around for over a century because they didn't give a score that you liked, while you have no issue with Polygon. Who btw was just $750,000 pile of cash in MS bank account a couple years ago. That doesn't matter, because you liked their score.

I only see one cage rattled.

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

I will be surprised if both of you still have your account by tomorrow

 

[Garrett 2U]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

I'm sorry that today is such a bad day for you

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Game is fun, I love moving about, and titans are cool.
But it is very light on content, and if I hadn't gotten it cheaper via a mexican VPN I would be dissapointed.

7/10, a fun game, but it might get stale.

 

[M.W.]

My guess was pretty accurate: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103766315&postcount=4162

 

[bomer]

Not a single 7? Really? For a game like CoD with slightly new things. I find that so hard to believe that no journalist felt the wave of apathy that washed over me in the few hours I spent playing the beta.

 

[djblackice]

I love that you and question the credibility of one of the biggest publications in Canada that's been around for over a century because they didn't give a score that you liked, while you have no issue with Polygon. Who btw was just $750,000 pile of cash in MS bank account a couple years ago. That doesn't matter, because you liked their score.

I only see one cage rattled.


I will be surprised if both of you still have your account by tomorrow

It's midnighter20c. Check his post history and be enlightened with all the drive by trolling. It's almost like a passion for him.

 

[Darksol]

That's a mating display. Most captive ostriches are raised in the presence of humans and so when they mature they view humans as potential mates.

Really? Fascinating! Oh nature, how I love you ^-^ Thanks for the info.

 

[Dragon]

I love how that Canadian paper review is the lowest review score on the meta, and someone said that they're probably the only site not bought with the hype.. or whatever it was. Lmao. TF is really rattling some cages.

My cage will be rattled when I go DD on the game and it takes 12 hours to complete at midnight!

MS doesn't do preloading?

 

[RedProwlingDevil]

That not having single player did not affect these scores at at hence why they are so inflated or that these reviewers are judging this game solely on multiplayer because single player is really a tutorial for COD's and Battlefield-esque games. Mid you this game to me would have been epic had there been single plater and not a light story tacked on multiplayer the way Brink did.

 

[BigSpleenAttack]

Not a single 7? Really? For a game like CoD with slightly new things. I find that so hard to believe that no journalist felt the wave of apathy that washed over me in the few hours I spent playing the beta.

There is a 7.................

 

[Ryu751]

because review scores have been known to manipulate consumer buying. and can either create or destroy a game and possibly a gaming community. if this game was bashed by reviews less would have bought it and it wouldn't have near as large a community and might not have a sequel. reviews can go a long way to making games and breaking them too.

Reviews have the same effect on other media also. On top of that I don't want sequels.

 

[equippedwithtowel]

Congrats to Titanfall! The first next-gen-in-mind, non-ported, highly-anticipated, over-85-Metacritic, non-sports, non-BF4, non-platformer, only-AAA, first-person-shooter game today!

Spoiler

It's highly anticipated in my heart

edit:

Lol, missed the fps qualifier. Oh well

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

Someone is definitely rattled by the scores.

Only that net newspaper sites score has rattled me a bit. In a good way a bit. Because we always know there's always that one guy.

MS doesn't do preloading?

Not that I'm aware of. And if so.. please someone school me on it and let me know where I can get my early DL on.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Only read the last two pages, somehow this thread ended up better than the Gears 2 review thread in 08 and the Virtua Fighter 5 review thread in 07. Scores are about where I expected, game looks fun with a bit of room for improvement in a sequel (I never had time to play my beta copy for PC).

 

[Orayn]

Based on a lot of the video reviews I'm seeing, I think having the visuals downplayed as they've been has pushed it to a point where I think the game looks pretty darned acceptable.

Agreed. It's a little on the plain side, but the art direction is good and the overall look is cohesive. I didn't think it was a bad looking game at all based on my time with the PC beta, apart from a few fugly textures.

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

Can you express your discontent without being that guy? Please?

EDIT: Good night, foul prince.

 

[Moneal]

Reviews have the same effect on other media also. On top of that I don't want sequels.

not nearly as much as they do for games. look at action movie reviews and how they do at box office. they usually bomb at reviews but rake in at the box office. yet very few games have ever bombed critically and still done well financially.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

Thats quite an unfair comparison as you are comparing a gameplay which is proven fun to almost all to a gameplay which is fun for a decent amount of people

 

[Card Boy]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

I'm literally laughing at work.

 

[Hip Hop]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

That post history. Almost like a Sony shill.

 

[Papercuts]

IN&OUT's post history always manages to make me cringe.

 

[VanWinkle]

Spoiler

It's highly anticipated in my heart

edit:

Lol, missed the fps qualifier. Oh well

Oh I'm sure he doesn't count Wii U anyway, so long as it doesn't fit his narrative. Good pick, though.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

I will be surprised if both of you still have your account by tomorrow

War... war never changes.

 

[SpacLock]

That post history. Almost like a Sony shill.

Yeah... How does this guy still have his account...

 

[PsihoPerihelion]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

How can the game be sub-HD if it's above the HD standard (720p) ? Also, is Second Son already out? I mean, your reviews sounds really positive, so it must be.

 

[Amon37]

9s and 10s smh

 

[Banjo Tango]

GAH WRONG THREAD

 

[doemaaan]

This thread looks like a zoo gone wild.

 

[Gestault]

Map scale is ringing some UT 2003 bells.

 

[Amir0x]

Please stop quoting IN&OUT guys, it's not improving the quality of his post bros >_<

 

[EightBitNate]

^Sorry Amir0x^

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

This is such a bad post. Let's go deeper.

Titanfall

-Sub HD

You clearly have no idea what "sub HD" is or where the line for HD is drawn. HD resolutions are 720p or higher. Titanfall is 792p, a whopping 72 lines above 720p.

-Bad AI

People have described it as a blast to play anyway.

- Multiplayer only

Again, why is this a problem if it's described as lots of fun? Most people I know didn't even touch BF4's campaign.

-Massive fps drops.

At least the devs attempted to get it at 60fps vs 30.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.

Yes gaming journalism is controlled by the government. Illuminati420blazeit

Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD

Funny how 3 of the 4 things you used to describe Second Son pertain to it's graphics. It will be a great game, but you obviously can't tell why.

- good AI

Not that's it's game breaking, but some impressions are saying the AI is dumb. Why don't you pay the Infamous thread a visit some time?

Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

...

This has to be the most stress-inducing post I've ever put my eyes on. I refuse to believe that you're serious. May God have mercy on your soul.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

9s and 10s smh

Too low? I agree. Would of given it an 11 after playing that "Cloud cityish" map!

 

[DR3AM]

any reviewers complain about no SP but the game still costing $60?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

If it would of been COD with mechs, I wouldn't buy it. Having played the beta I don't think I've enjoyed a FPS multiplayer more than this, in terms of gameplay it felt a hell of lot more enjoyable than my experiences with the COD series.

 

[Poimandres]

People are melting down and calling bias on the reviews when the average is only 87%? Really?

It's not like the game is being showered with perfect scores or anything.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

I'm not surprised you posted this. Not in the slightest.

 

[maabus1999]

Titanfall

-Sub HD
- Bad AI
- Multiplayer only.
-Massive fps drops.

Gaming journalism: Brilliant, breathtaking , revolutionary....bla bla...cloud!
9/10.


Upcoming Infamous SS review:

-locked fps.
-gorgeous graphics.
- Full HD
- good AI


Gaming journalism:
"Everything is brilliant about this game except there is a single drop in frames from 30 to 29 during one explosion, so...."

7/10

Haha, now this is a troll post. Good job, hope it was worth it.

 

[LowEndTorque]

Super curious to see how Destiny will compare score-wise.