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Toonami |JulAug17| Most Definitely the Work of an Enemy Stand
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But he should have the easiest time killing it.Do the Joseph dance
JadedWriter
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Silver Chariots real power is allowing Polnareff to defy physics while he poses.
Seriously, how can you screw up an anime about Alexander? You have to actively try at that point.
The Greatsword looking good, real good in Monster Hunter World. This is quickly shooting up to be one of my most anticipated games and I haven't been into most MP focused games this generation.
Me: "Wow that looks like Peter Chung's artstyle!"
*Looks at Wikipedia page for Reign*
"Everything makes much more sense now."
That was pretty much the final line/panel in volume 1.
Guess the new concern now is the color scheme. MonHun has some of the best art around and with it going HD, it can finally show the world what it's made of and yet it looks so drabby. LIke the colors are not going to pop. Also unsure about blood being replaced with...rocks?
There is blood they just took it out of the demos
Hellwarden
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I really should try Monster Hunter...but first Yakuza Kiwami.
*does Majima dance*
*does Majima dance*
Crimson_Echidna
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So I'm watching Lupin Episode 8 on Funimation and my God, this is the worst "little kid" voice I've ever heard. The little girl sounds like she's straight out of South Park.
JadedWriter
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Kurama is one dude you don't want pissed at you. Even Hiei fears him.
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YoodiHoshi
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Except one of the abilities of the Bomb Devil literally can't work until he explains what it does. It's kinda funny. An ability that powerful needed a good enough condition/drawback, and that's what Gen had chosen. Supposedly a play on how the villains tend to say exactly what they're about to do before actually doing it, but this time for a reason.
It's like they forgot to get someone to voice her & someone had their kid in the studio, so they just used her. Thank goodness she wasn't the lead for the episode.
It helps people tend to listen if you tell them you plant bomb on them
Well at least Ryuk is good and looks cool.
JadedWriter
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I cannot fucks you up until I tell you specifically how I'm going to fucks you up.
I still can't get over how stupid the whole "well we called ourselves something in Japanese, therefore they're totally gonna look for someone in Japan" plot point is.
That'd be like if they were all "WELL, WE'RE CALLED "LE KILLER", SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL LOOK FOR SOMEONE IN FRANCE"
If you can't think of a good way to incorporate something because of the change in location, just don't do it at all.
That'd be like if they were all "WELL, WE'RE CALLED "LE KILLER", SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL LOOK FOR SOMEONE IN FRANCE"
If you can't think of a good way to incorporate something because of the change in location, just don't do it at all.
They just decided to throw in Dafoe without any makeup/effect, brilliant.
Hellwarden
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The Death Note movie seems like it's trying to match the straight faced absurdity of the anime to an extent.
The problem is, the"take a chip and eat it" scene was clearly supposed to be amusing. It's supposed to make you laugh.
When I look at the live action film, I'm not sure which parts I'm supposed to take seriously.
The problem is, the"take a chip and eat it" scene was clearly supposed to be amusing. It's supposed to make you laugh.
When I look at the live action film, I'm not sure which parts I'm supposed to take seriously.
JadedWriter
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Oh yeah if some of you are complaining about complicated Nen shit now then...well you guys need to hold onto your butts. Because there's one that's really going to fuck with your heads. It's that stupid complicated.
Nen is pretty straight-forward. Togashi is just terrible at explaining it.
I usually think of nen as being two separate but interrelated systems -- there's the general fighting system based around aura manipulation, and then there's the specific hatsu, which follow their own special rules, based around the category and limitation system. Or in other words, it's a martial arts ki system + a detailed magic system. (And they're not really that separate when you get down to the details, but that just gets confusing.)
And, to be fair, a lot of the naming issues are translation problems. The literal translations of ten, zetsu, ren, and hatsu are "shroud", "suppress", "enhance" and "release", for example, so it's actually really straight-forward and literal. But the dub couldn't get away with translating them into English, people would complain.
I usually think of nen as being two separate but interrelated systems -- there's the general fighting system based around aura manipulation, and then there's the specific hatsu, which follow their own special rules, based around the category and limitation system. Or in other words, it's a martial arts ki system + a detailed magic system. (And they're not really that separate when you get down to the details, but that just gets confusing.)
And, to be fair, a lot of the naming issues are translation problems. The literal translations of ten, zetsu, ren, and hatsu are "shroud", "suppress", "enhance" and "release", for example, so it's actually really straight-forward and literal. But the dub couldn't get away with translating them into English, people would complain.
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Hatsu's start getting really fucking weird though.
CN has been showing it again lately alongside Teen Titans Go.
Nen is all about aura at its base. Everything Nen related is made from aura that has been manipulated and given some specific use in some manner by its user. Something as simple enough as using it to shield yourself from attacks or to strength your own natural abilities to far more elaborate and complex things like creating a clone (Kastro) or transforming it into electricity directly (Killua). Get the basics down and then mastering them is important as the more efficient your use of Nen and the more fine tuned you can become in its innerworkings the greater the abilities and strength of a Hatsu as well as improving just about everything else.
The training might seem redundant in some ways but if you can't get the simple stuff down pat you're never going to be a great Nen user. That is unless you use conditions but even making smart decisions about what rules and risks you apply to your powers can separate the good Nen users from the great ones.
Edit: I love nuanced power systems over vague ones that let their characters do whatever because of the rule of cool. Nen can has this issue at times but with how "grounded" a lot of the basic ideas are it makes a lot of sense. As I said its like he basically developed the RPG aspect of a videogame but as a narrative tool for his writing.
The training might seem redundant in some ways but if you can't get the simple stuff down pat you're never going to be a great Nen user. That is unless you use conditions but even making smart decisions about what rules and risks you apply to your powers can separate the good Nen users from the great ones.
Edit: I love nuanced power systems over vague ones that let their characters do whatever because of the rule of cool. Nen can has this issue at times but with how "grounded" a lot of the basic ideas are it makes a lot of sense. As I said its like he basically developed the RPG aspect of a videogame but as a narrative tool for his writing.
Alright, so, I might as well ask a valid question instead of just ranting about another of DBZ's many problems.
How "powerful" is Shenron exactly? We've never given any indication (from what I can remember) of his "strength" or "power" aside from summoning items for people or bringing back hundreds of people back from the dead except for those who're "more powerful" or being told "I can't do it because *insert character like Beerus* is stronger than me"
Not to mention, it's been stated they can create new dragon balls as shown by the Namekian ones, so why not make some that're able to do more powerful things?
Edit: I guess just to cover all my bases, do we know if Shenron has the power to grant a wish among the lines of "I wish we could go back a day" or "please take us back to 6 hours ago" similar to Whis?
How "powerful" is Shenron exactly? We've never given any indication (from what I can remember) of his "strength" or "power" aside from summoning items for people or bringing back hundreds of people back from the dead except for those who're "more powerful" or being told "I can't do it because *insert character like Beerus* is stronger than me"
Not to mention, it's been stated they can create new dragon balls as shown by the Namekian ones, so why not make some that're able to do more powerful things?
Edit: I guess just to cover all my bases, do we know if Shenron has the power to grant a wish among the lines of "I wish we could go back a day" or "please take us back to 6 hours ago" similar to Whis?
No we don't know if he can manipulate time though I doubt it.
Shenron is as strong as he's "master" who right now is Dende, who while not a fighter is stronger or really more powerful than Kami was
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Shenron is legit shook of Beerus. "Holy shit it's Beerus-sama. I'mma get da fuq outta here."
Ever since last week, they started showing TT 2k3. Guess the demand was high enough.
Considering Whis has the ability, my guess is it was either addressed previous or toriyama forgot to have someone ask shenron to do that, especially with the cell saga having time travel when trunks could've used the dragon balls to wish him back ## years to stop the androids or wished the androids good & nope, I'm going off topic.
On the one hand, that kind of makes sense, but then again, I'm trying to think of when we ever saw Dende's powers aside from the Frieza arc, becoming the new Kami, & making the new Dragon Balls. But I just wanted to ask since I want to make sure when I criticize something, I'm doing so with the right facts/knowledge, so feel free to correct me on anything I might have wrong.
Ya know, despite Togashi over explaining Nen, at the very least it feels like he's trying to cover his bases & treats it like a RPG mechanic (basically MP put into different forms of aura is how I'm being told is the simplest way of summarizing it). It's confusing at times, absolutely, but I still get a sense that he put a lot of thought into it. With DBZ, I feel like it's left too broad/inconsistent as to what it can & can't deus ex machina, especially when in last night's episode, not even a few minutes after Bulma's parent stated "you can just wish us back alive with the dragon balls if we somehow die", they completely forget that when Gohan is stated to be dead (which...Goku shouldn't really know from what I remember, let alone saw the body). Why am I suppose to feel tension when literally a moment ago, you completely removed it with telling us death has no consequences?
....alright, that's my complaint about DBZ for the week. I'm going to try to leave the more rantish/reactionary comments for during the show itself & try to be more constructive the rest of the time.
Everyone is afraid of Beerus besides Whis but they should be afraid of is the bomber, have you heard of the bomber.
Plus Beerus can erase you from existence
JadedWriter
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There's is also Champa "Yo fuck dat fool Beerus, I fucks him up."
And Vados "I have the worst and laziest GoD"
RadioHeadAche
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There has to be at least one guy with a detonator on his crotch.
something something "his dick is about to explode"
YoodiHoshi
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From the Toonami Tumblr
EN GARDE!
And I do agree that Togashi had been terrible at explaining Nen. Plus I think he got a bit complacent after the 1999 anime ended, or after he concluded the Phantom Troupe Arc.
While the 2011 anime did get rid of some small things I actually liked out of the G.I. Arc, it is a much more palatable week-to-week experience this way
EN GARDE!
And I do agree that Togashi had been terrible at explaining Nen. Plus I think he got a bit complacent after the 1999 anime ended, or after he concluded the Phantom Troupe Arc.
While the 2011 anime did get rid of some small things I actually liked out of the G.I. Arc, it is a much more palatable week-to-week experience this way
The real issue with Dragon Ball is that it started out as a light-hearted comedic series, and the general inconsistency of the universe makes sense when everything was always a bit tongue-in-cheek. Z, on the other hand, is really serious all the way through, which brings with it an expectation of more consistency than a light-hearted series does.
I suspect, in retrospect, that the editor interference that resulted in Cell and Buu just caused the seriousness of the Frieza saga to take over the entire series, and it wasn't meant to be that way. And the anime ups the seriousness even more, hence Toriyama pushing hard in the other direction with Super.
I suspect, in retrospect, that the editor interference that resulted in Cell and Buu just caused the seriousness of the Frieza saga to take over the entire series, and it wasn't meant to be that way. And the anime ups the seriousness even more, hence Toriyama pushing hard in the other direction with Super.
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