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[Ithil]

Of Oz The Wizard has been done "dark" correctly already, and it didn't require any grittiness, political intrigue or blood.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Some parts of it look promising but I'm not sure I want to see a dark and gritty Oz. We'll see.

EDIT: I must have forgotten or was just freaked out but now I remember watching Return to Oz as a kid in the early early 90's at some point.

 

[El Topo]

"Van Helsing resurrects Dracula so they can both get revenge on the secret soceity who killed their loved ones, utilizing a bad American accent and alternative energy by day and a fucking Katana in 1800's London by night"

Wait, hold on, is that a bad thing?

 

[Retro]

Wait, hold on, is that a bad thing?

Even putting aside how far it veers off the source material (which left me with the distinct impression that whoever wrote the thing glanced at the book's Wikipedia page for all of eight seconds), there's a certain point where the absurdity of what's happening starts to gnaw at the edges. The more I look at a phrase like "Dracula battles a secret society by ruining their oil profits," the more my brain simply refuses to recognize it as more than a jumble of random words. I glanced up at it now and my brain read it as "Protestant dishwasher magenta faculty eleven <bathtub emoji>."

I don't feel I need to justify my distaste for the series further than the fact that even NBC knew well enough to scrap it after one season, and they gave Matt LeBlanc's Friends spin off two.

 

[FuturusX]

Pure shite. One season at best. Whom ever cut the trailer needs our sympathy for having to work with that garbage footage.

 

[El Topo]

Even putting aside how far it veers off the source material (which left me with the distinct impression that whoever wrote the thing glanced at the book's Wikipedia page for all of eight seconds), there's a certain point where the absurdity of what's happening starts to gnaw at the edges. The more I look at a phrase like "Dracula battles a secret society by ruining their oil profits," the more my brain simply refuses to recognize it as more than a jumble of random words. I glanced up at it now and my brain read it as "Protestant dishwasher magenta faculty eleven <bathtub emoji>."

I don't feel I need to justify my distaste for the series further than the fact that even NBC knew well enough to scrap it after one season, and they gave Matt LeBlanc's Friends spin off two.

Nah, it is perfectly fine to dislike that show. There were a lot of ideas/plots that are utterly ludicrous and the core concept itselff was already bizarre. I still enjoyed the show despite all that, but I won't pretend that it was particularly great or well thought-out. I'm a sucker for revenge stories though and it was nice to see a villain as the protagonist.

Also he didn't just try to ruin the oil profits of the Order of the Dragon. He tried to do that by...introducing magic wireless energy, but in London, right next to their heart of operations, instead of, I don't know, a more reasonable area? I love how over-the-top everything in that show was. I mean

Spoiler

the leader of the order is killed by his own undead children

, that's pretty savage.

 

[Retro]

Nah, it is perfectly fine to dislike that show. There were a lot of ideas/plots that are utterly ludicrous and the core concept itselff was already bizarre. I still enjoyed the show despite all that, but I won't pretend that it was particularly great or well thought-out.

Also he didn't just try to ruin the oil profits of the Order of the Dragon. He tried to do that by...introducing magic wireless energy, but in London, right next to their heart of operations, instead of, I don't know, a more reasonable area. I don't know, I love how over-the-top everything in that show was.

My mind shut off when Van Helsing resurrected his literary arch-nemesis. That's just a bridge too far for me, like they just jotted down character names and occupations and then filled in the rest. All the rest was just seeing how absurd it could all get.

I mean, people are free to enjoy what they want, but there's a certain point where "We're doing our own fresh take on _________" almost always spells disaster and ends up looking like pure comedy. That's how you end up with Katana Dracula Tesla from Texas, and that's how you end up with Stupid Sexy Jesus Scarecrow.

 

[El Topo]

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I take it you didn't like it when they introduced a magic seer that was sent by the Vatican (or something like that) or when they had Van Helsing develop a serum so that Dracula can walk in the light to attend a shareholder meeting? Man, I miss that show. Imagine the storylines we could have gotten.

 

[Revolver]

Lord that looks bad. But it reunites D'Onofrio and Singh so I'll give it a shot. Shuddup, I liked The Cell.

 

[Zaph]

Will watch just to see how someone as meticulous as Tarsem works within the limits of TV. I'm gonna guess poorly?

The Fall is still a masterpiece though.

 

[VistraNorrez]

Will watch just to see how someone as meticulous as Tarsem works within the limits of TV. I'm gonna guess poorly?

The Fall is still a masterpiece though.

He shot The Fall on the back of other jobs. That's why he was able to shoot that in those incredible locations. He's used to using limitations to his advantage.

 

[Elandyll]

I guess I must have terrible taste, because it looks like something I could enjoy, keeping my expectations in check.
Some of the hyperbole looks... weird. "The worst thing I have ever seen"?

I dare not ask what Gaf people think of one of my most beloved miniseries of all time, "The 10th Kingdom"...

 

[Ithil]

I guess I must have terrible taste, because it looks like something I could enjoy, keeping my expectations in check.
Some of the hyperbole looks... weird. "The worst thing I have ever seen"?

I dare not ask what Gaf people think of one of my most beloved miniseries of all time, "The 10th Kingdom"...

The 10th Kingdom was great and absolutely nothing like this.

 

[Elandyll]

The 10th Kingdom was great and absolutely nothing like this.

Well, we won't know until it airs, but yeah, chances of it being anywhere close to it are remote.

Wonder why they would show this early January instead of during the Xmas Holiday though?

 

[hythloday]

Nah, it is perfectly fine to dislike that show. There were a lot of ideas/plots that are utterly ludicrous and the core concept itselff was already bizarre. I still enjoyed the show despite all that, but I won't pretend that it was particularly great or well thought-out. I'm a sucker for revenge stories though and it was nice to see a villain as the protagonist.

Also he didn't just try to ruin the oil profits of the Order of the Dragon. He tried to do that by...introducing magic wireless energy, but in London, right next to their heart of operations, instead of, I don't know, a more reasonable area? I love how over-the-top everything in that show was. I mean

Spoiler

the leader of the order is killed by his own undead children

, that's pretty savage.

If they'd just stuck with "Dracula masquerading as an American entrepreneur in 1800s London" I would have been totally down with that. I enjoyed the first few episodes and JRM is a good actor. When they brought in the Secret Society With Katanas for Some Reason, that's when they lost me. Just a plain Secret Society, that's all well and good. I'm sure 1800s London had loads of those. But we didn't need the ninja fights.

Anyway this Oz thing.. I just don't get it. Passion of the Scarecrow aside it just didn't look entertaining.

 

[Retro]

I take it you didn't like it when they introduced a magic seer that was sent by the Vatican (or something like that) or when they had Van Helsing develop a serum so that Dracula can walk in the light to attend a shareholder meeting? Man, I miss that show. Imagine the storylines we could have gotten.

I mean, like I said I was completely checked out from episode one, so I could have kicked back and said "fuck it, let's see where this train wreck goes." But I'm a big enough fan of the book (yeah yeah, I know) that I couldn't stop being irritated by, ya know, everything.

My wife was watching it, which is the only reason I kept doing so.

 

[Mokujin]

I genuinely don't know what to say after watching that trailer.

Of Oz The Wizard has been done "dark" correctly already, and it didn't require any grittiness, political intrigue or blood.

This movie was fantastic.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Of Oz The Wizard has been done "dark" correctly already, and it didn't require any grittiness, political intrigue or blood.

 

[carlsojo]

The Dracula series was okay. A lot of stupidity (*cough* wireless energy vs. oil *cough*), but some entertaining ideas and scenes here and there.

It would have been pretty good I think actually if they had focused more on the... vampires and stuff instead of the incredibly dull economic and energy bullshit.

 

[Not]

This is the perfect example of a show trying too hard.

Next, lets get a gritty interpretation of Winnie the Pooh please...

No, actually, please

 

[120v]

Of Oz The Wizard has been done "dark" correctly already, and it didn't require any grittiness, political intrigue or blood.

re-watched this for the first time in 15-20 years... was blown away how well it held up. they really don't make em like that anymore

 

[Not]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalin...return-to-oz?utm_term=.urEG18DopG#.jexmoJ3KRm

This. Movie. Looks. Awesome.

 

[Escape Goat]

Looks like another crappy One more Upon A Time.