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We never got EP3 because Gaben couldn't think how to reinvent the wheel again...

efyu_lemonardo

May I have a cookie?
Here's the thing I don't get about the "wait for it to be revolutionary" argument:

The late 90s to early 2000s were a period of technological discovery and innovation in gaming that's not coming back. That ship has sailed. We're now in a stage of refinement, where what was established then is being expanded upon and polished.

The next big breakthrough is not "just around the corner", as some VR enthusiasts would have you believe. They've been saying this for over a decade and VR remains niche for the exact reasons everyone had predicted - it's cumbersome and isolating and there are no good solutions to emulating the sense of touch and feeling of force.

Empty buzzwords like "The Metaverse" are just like the flying cars promised in the 1950s: they may or may not materialize in Gabe's lifetime, and if they do will not be what everyone expected them to be anyway.

Generative AI is just as likely to turn the development pipeline and player experience on their heads before VR or AR become mainstream, and there's no telling what'll happen after that.

In the mean time, no one is stopping Valve from making great, interesting games that continue to flesh out the Half Life universe and keep it relevant for new generations of gamers.

The holy grail of a new technological revolution will happen when it happens, and Valve will be able to make Half Life 5 or 6 to showcase it, whatever it'll be. No one will fault then for "merely" releasing best-in-class games until then.

If Doom, Mario etc can keep getting new releases, so can Half Life. They don't all have to completely reinvent the wheel, as long as they continue to experiment while retaining their respective franchises' identity.
 
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HJuggernaut

Neo Member
Wrong. We didn't get HL3 because Gabe was worried that if the game didn't deliver it would negatively impact the Steam store. If you remember when Left 4 Dead 2 came out how angry people got and boycotted Steam. This is the real reason we never got HL3.
 

Sophist

Member
Wrong. We didn't get HL3 because Gabe was worried that if the game didn't deliver it would negatively impact the Steam store. If you remember when Left 4 Dead 2 came out how angry people got and boycotted Steam. This is the real reason we never got HL3.
I don't remember that. L4d2 is currently the 12th best rated game and the 4th most reviewed game on Steam.
 
I watched the 20 years anniversary, and I kinda get their argument. You can't look at the problem with today's glasses, you have to look at it from a contemporary perspective. In the documentary they are not only saying, that they did not create Ep 3, because it did not feel revolutionary enough. They are also saying that the staff moved to other projects, like Left for Dead. And of course they probably knew that other projects would make more revenue for Valve than Ep 3 as a single player game. They are also saying that Ep 3 probably would have taken two years to develop. At the time, the source engine must have fealt stagnant. It was already pushed to it's limits with Ep 2. At the time the engine was seen everywhere, mostly due to modding projects from the community. And just like when Wolfenstein came out in 2009 people were sick of the "Doom 3 look", people were sick of the source engine look.

I still disagree with the sentiment, though. I would have much preferred an Ep 3 around the Borealis - I just think a ship in the snow is a cool motive.

And Valve has already proven that they are willing to go back to old material, with the HL2 "Update" update (mostly fan made), endorsing Black Mesa (again fan made), and now the 20th anniversary update. I would also liken this to the efforts from Bethesa, like Machine Games adding content to Quake, the Quake and Quake II remakes etc. I am also thinking of Hello Games, and how long they have been adding content to No Man's Sky.
 
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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Is that true though? Judas is currently aiming to reinvent the wheel after we all thought everything had been done to death already in the genre, and I doubt it'll be the last one to try new things in the future.
Judas I assume is a modern day game, I don't know as I've never heard of it but you have to take into context the technology of the time when Eps2 was released and Eps3 was being talked about, yeah nowadays we have all sorts of insanely powerful processors, graphics cards and huge amounts of ram so the sky's the limit but back then, nah the ceiling had already been hit for FPS
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
All it needed was the portal gun and the ability to shoot people in the side of the head through them.

This. Bring back the grav gun. Introduce the portal gun and really go to town on the physics.

Valve, you're committing a crime against humanity by not giving the world HL3.
 

Ivan

Member
I remember Gabe saying that AI will make single player games interesting again in next seven years (now that's just a few years ahead).

I think that might be their direction for something new and really cool for next Half-life.

I'm sure they're experimenting with that all the time...
 
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