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Will the result of the US elections force behaviors of video game publishers and pop culture in general (not an actual politics thread)?

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DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
There's already massive pushback against the woke shit recently even without counting the election especially this year with many of their games flopping or not meeting expectations. Plus shows too like that Star Wars show and others. This will hopefully further increase the change back to when games were normal and sane. Also back to when if a game did include a gay or lesbian character, it was still done normally and not in the face like how Gay Tony was in GTA IV, Veronica in New Vegas, Arcade in New Vegas, that dude in Deep Fear on the Sega Saturn etc without the whole insane and non binary, they, them, shit, it crap.

Majority of gamers and even non gamers are tried of all this insanity and mental illness crap being forced on us. It has made many people that never used to mind woke stuff too much to hating it now.
Yeah think this is exactly it. Both the failure of woke shit and (in part) the election result are caused by the pendulum swinging the other way.

But it’s kind of laughable to think that companies would be like “we need to make games that ideologically align with the US president”. Publishers don’t give a shit about that. The only thing they care about is money. Or more accurately, the only thing their investors care about is profit, and if they can’t deliver, the market will punish them for it.

I hope people don’t forget that when Trump got into office in 2016, that wasn’t the “death of the SJW”. The Left became very angry and emboldened to be even louder with their politics. Remember how so many creatives back then talked about how the villain in their show/movie/game was representative of Trump? Get ready for more of that.

Activists will continue to use our favorite IPs as platforms to “fight Trump” and “own the chuds”, so ya’ll better buckle up.
For sure. Early 2016 was the first time I became aware of the whole wokeness thing, but it greatly accelerated after the election.

I think the big difference today is that audiences are way more conscious about this shit now and they overwhelmingly hate it. And they’re not afraid to criticize it and make a mockery of it anymore.

Devs/publishers who don’t get that through their heads will soon run out of other people’s money to squander.
 

Denton

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Trump won cause a stick of butter is $10, a shit mobile entry level car is like $40,000, and an 800 sq ft starter patio home in podunk nowhere is like $300,000, it had little to nothing to do with culture wars.
While I am not a yank, I think it is delusional to pretend people's disgust with identity politics/DEI/wokeness/whatever-you-wanna-call-it had "little to do" with his win. Imho together with stopping mass unchecked immigration and economy it was in TOP3 most important reasons why people, moderates and former leftists vote for him, and for many it was reason number 1.
 

nemiroff

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No. Left policies overwhelming make people and whole populations better off over the long term - workers protection, sick leave, hiring and firing.
In my mind, these aren't even "left policies"; I'd call them essential policies for a modern, democratic capitalist society.
 

mdkirby

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Yes, but it will take time. We won’t see much of the effects for at least 2-3 years.

Studios with some foresight who have games releasing in the next 12 months may be delayed to rework or remove some of the most ideologically driven scenes.

Remits from the top will realign studios to some degree, in time, however this may vary significantly in miliage depending where they are based. Some studios have been flooded with activists at many levels, and in Europe you can’t just sack people without cause. Being too ideological is not grounds for dismissal. Big publishers, particularly if a recent game by one of the developers has flopped may try to get around this by simply closing the studio, making a new studio and selectively hiring more neutral developers and the best talent.

But yeah, nothing will be quick. There will be several more concords, and it will be financially a very very painful couple of years for the industry. If activist games were flopping hard already this year, now the push back is fully cemented it will only get more pronounced.
 

Nickolaidas

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Yes, but it will take time. We won’t see much of the effects for at least 2-3 years.

But yeah, nothing will be quick. There will be several more concords, and it will be financially a very very painful couple of years for the industry. If activist games were flopping hard already this year, now the push back is fully cemented it will only get more pronounced.
I agree. We get at least 2 more years of Veilguards and Concords, IPs like Mass Effect and Dragon Age will be put on ice again and 2-3 devs like Bioware may be absorbed/disbanded altogether.

Wokeness didn't appear overnight, so it won't go away in a single day as well.

But I want to believe that in 2025, there are going to be not-woke games starting to be developed. And will be released in 2027-2029.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Do people not realize this culture war woke shite is absolutely irrelevant outside of small insular communities? Nobody gives a fuck, nobody in my firm talks about it, none of my circle of friends give a fuck nor does any in my family, people are too busy worrying about their fucking bills to be concerned about whether there's a cock under a fucking dress, I may rant about it on here infecting certain games but if I brought up these talking points with my social circle id be laughed outa the pub
 

mdkirby

Gold Member
I agree. We get at least 2 more years of Veilguards and Concords, IPs like Mass Effect and Dragon Age will be put on ice again and 2-3 devs like Bioware may be absorbed/disbanded altogether.

Wokeness didn't appear overnight, so it won't go away in a single day as well.

But I want to believe that in 2025, there are going to be not-woke games starting to be developed. And will be released in 2027-2029.
yeah there will 100% be some significant fallout to veilguard's seeming significant commercial failure. If that's a major restructuring, or complete shutting down and reset is the only question imo.
 
God i hope so, sooner those weirdos are out of the gaming space the better.


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Dr.Morris79

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Do people not realize this culture war woke shite is absolutely irrelevant outside of small insular communities?
You can't be serious, right?

You get that it's infected society from top to bottom? From school to media, from the perception of 'males' as a whole and 'Toxic' masculinity?

These things are not 'insular communities', it's half of the human race for christ sake.

The Harris campaign just fucking run on 'Men bad, vote women'

Where have you been? :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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