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[3N16MA]

Most of the China box office regulars on the BOT forums are declaring $250M dead for Transformers 5 in China. TF5 is currently trailing Warcraft, which ended up with $220M total. It might be able to make up the difference, but $230M is looking like the high end for the Last Knight.

So that is $90M or more lost in China. At least $100M lost domestically (after TF4 already dropped $100M from TF3). The rest of the overseas territories aren't going to be much better.

We are likely looking at a WW total for Transformers 5 that is under the first film. Sort of crazy to think that it and Logan could end up separated by as little as $50M worldwide.

Time to pack it up. You had a good run.

See you on the reboot.

My 3 year old daughter has asked me about 20 times why she can't see Wonder Woman.

Maybe she'll be old enough to see the sequel in theatres.



In other news, I should be seeing the "now 98% on Rotten Tomatoes" Baby Driver on Thursday. Two others are going with me, so I can now safely predict that the opening weekend will be >$30. Sorry Zyzzyx Rd.

My niece is almost 5 and she wants to see it. My sister passed on letting her watch it right now as she does not watch any films geared towards adults. Perhaps a little down the road.

 

[kswiston]

Considering TF5 had a $100+M upfront from China, those distributors are probably pretty furious about this performance.

Paramount is not getting any sort of benefit of the doubt in future sequels.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Fall

Fallll

 

[What did he mean by this?]

Can the insensitive "Chinese have shit taste" articles stop being spread now? They hate it too

 

[Toa TAK]

Ah

So now they see the errors of their ways

 

[BronsonLee]

What are you talking about, I can't see shit

 

[3N16MA]

When do we get a Transformers film that takes place on Cybertron?

 

[Toa TAK]

When do we get a Transformers film that takes place on Cybertron?

When they get infinite money to make it

Hope you liked those opening 5 mins in Dark of the Moon

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

China does care?

 

[kswiston]

Dark of the Moon was at one point the 5th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Age of Extinction peaked as the 10th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Revenge of the Fallen wasn't nearly as big overseas, but I think that it peaked at #20-21 of all time worldwide.

The Last Knight could feasibly miss the Top 100.

 

[3N16MA]

When they get infinite money to make it

Hope you liked those opening 5 mins in Dark of the Moon

It was the best part. Only it felt like less than 5 minutes.

 

[Anth0ny]

Most of the China box office regulars on the BOT forums are declaring $250M dead for Transformers 5 in China. TF5 is currently trailing Warcraft, which ended up with $220M total. It might be able to make up the difference, but $230M is looking like the high end for the Last Knight.

So that is $90M or more lost in China. At least $100M lost domestically (after TF4 already dropped $100M from TF3). The rest of the overseas territories aren't going to be much better.

We are likely looking at a WW total for Transformers 5 that is under the first film. Sort of crazy to think that it and Logan could end up separated by as little as $50M worldwide.

FINALLY THIS NIGHTMARE IS OVER

I need to make an amendment


"Luckily, in 2017, humanity smartened up... and Transformers 5 bombed. Now things make sense. The end."

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Dark of the Moon was at one point the 5th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Age of Extinction peaked as the 10th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Revenge of the Fallen wasn't nearly as big overseas, but I think that it peaked at #20-21 of all time worldwide.

The Last Knight could feasibly miss the Top 100.

 

[Toa TAK]

Hallmark of animation

 

[shintoki]

 

[JigglesBunny]

I would imagine all that Lucy goodwill is gone

Lucy had goodwill?

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Hallmark of animation

From what I remember, the best looking part of the movie was when all those good guy toys got slaughtered.

 

[GabeTheGrouch76]

Most of the China box office regulars on the BOT forums are declaring $250M dead for Transformers 5 in China. TF5 is currently trailing Warcraft, which ended up with $220M total. It might be able to make up the difference, but $230M is looking like the high end for the Last Knight.

So that is $90M or more lost in China. At least $100M lost domestically (after TF4 already dropped $100M from TF3). The rest of the overseas territories aren't going to be much better.

We are likely looking at a WW total for Transformers 5 that is under the first film. Sort of crazy to think that it and Logan could end up separated by as little as $50M worldwide.

 

[Toa TAK]

From what I remember, the best looking part of the movie was when all those good guy toys got slaughtered.

That's messed up.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Not wrong though. That first half hour contains the entire movie's quality animation.

 

[broncobuster]

Rough night? More like Rough year

Girls Trip will probably outdo Rough Night.

 

[Mario007]

See, he should be getting some credit for it but everyone's too busy crapping on him. He's in a no-win situation with the public. It's sad.

Same thing will happen with Justice League honestly. It will be Johns and Whedon getting the praise and Snyder getting the hate.

Just for WW, think of Snyder and his production company basically acting like Feige and the Marvel factory.

 

[DMczaf]

Considering they produced it, Zack himself put her in BvS, put her in Justice League as the founding member with Batman, Zack came up with the story for WW and the stunt guys tha worked with the Snyders were used on WW, yes it took Snyders pushing WB to get WW off the ground.

See, he should be getting some credit for it but everyone's too busy crapping on him. He's in a no-win situation with the public. It's sad.

Because sometimes...truth isn't good enough...

 

[kswiston]

Girls Trip will probably outdo Rough Night.

How can it not at this point? Rough Night is going to end up making $25-30M domestic total.

 

[Shaanyboi]

When do we get a Transformers film that takes place on Cybertron?

Do you think they're going to drastically inflate their budget so much as to do that? Why do you think these movies emphasize the humans so much? Because any time even a single Transformer is on screen, they cost a shit ton of money, let alone having to do a full cg environment.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

So when are Transformers movies just gonna become CG animated family features? 15 years time?

That's messed up.

Gotta use all those frames to make sure kids know their fave is dead as dead can be so they can buy new toys, man.

 

[kswiston]

It's probably too late to scrap the Bumblebee film given that it starts production in the next month or so, but I bet that Paramount will be watching its budget like a hawk.

Paramount also has new leadership, so who knows what happens to the Transformers franchise now.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

If they're making Bee a VW and setting it in the 80s and giving creative control to the Kubo guy, the chances this more or less becomes a "soft reboot" (whatever worth the term actually has) goes up quite a bit, I think.

We'll probably get a much better idea of that when we get the Bee designs. Like, if he's a lot chunkier, and has a face (and HORNS!) then I think the idea that we're kinda stepping away from the Bay-iteration.

 

[hodayathink]

How can it not at this point? Rough Night is going to end up making $25-30M domestic total.

Can Girls Trip''s OW end up beating out Rough Night's domestic total? Now that's a fun question.

 

[Toa TAK]

I like the Bay designs tho

Only dude I didn't care for was this abomination:

 

[3N16MA]

Do you think they're going to drastically inflate their budget so much as to do that? Why do you think these movies emphasize the humans so much? Because any time even a single Transformer is on screen, they cost a shit ton of money, let alone having to do a full cg environment.

Paramount is in the dumps right now. Prime time to get them to overspend and try to correct a problem.

It's to our benefit.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Is that the one that farts parachutes?

 

[Toa TAK]

Is that the one that farts parachutes?

 

[3N16MA]

Is that the one that farts parachutes?

That's Jetfire.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I like the Bay designs tho

Only dude I didn't care for was this abomination:

Reminds me of a corpse from a movie but I can't remember which one.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Reminds me of a corpse from a movie but I can't remember which one.

Toht right after his face melts all the way off?

edit: so who is that one?

edit edit: I still can't believe they made Starscream look like a gorilla dorito

 

[Shaanyboi]

Paramount is in the dumps right now. Prime time to get them to overspend and try to correct a problem.

It's to our benefit.

The only thing they're prime to do right now is scrap and reboot this whole awful franchise with a tone and design that isn't utterly revolting in every sense of the word.

 

[Toa TAK]

Toht right after his face melts all the way off?

edit: so who is that one?

edit edit: I still can't believe they made Starscream look like a gorilla dorito

Fucking Wheeljack.

Woah hey

I like Starscream's design.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

That's WHEELJACK?

Jesus Christ.

edit: I can't follow you to the land where this is a good Starscream design, Toa.

I just can't

 

[kswiston]

Toht right after his face melts all the way off?

I was going to say the same thing.

It reminds me of this

crossed with Doc Brown from Back to the Future.

 

[3N16MA]

Toht right after his face melts all the way off?

edit: so who is that one?

edit edit: I still can't believe they made Starscream look like a gorilla dorito

.

 

[Toa TAK]

That's WHEELJACK?

Jesus Christ.

edit: I can't follow you to the land where this is a good Starscream design, Toa.

I just can't

But it looks so cool when he transforms!

*WUBWUBWUBWUB*

 

[Sibersk Esto]

That's WHEELJACK?

Jesus Christ.

edit: I can't follow you to the land where this is a good Starscream design, Toa.

I just can't

He's supposed to be smart.

So he's Albert Einstein.

Get it?

These movies are smart.

 

[Toa TAK]

He's supposed to be smart.

So he's Albert Einstein.

Get it?

And in the same movie they make the claim that Sentinel was the Albert Einstein of the autobots.

 

[Inceptional]

Dark of the Moon was at one point the 5th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Age of Extinction peaked as the 10th highest grossing film of all time worldwide.

Revenge of the Fallen wasn't nearly as big overseas, but I think that it peaked at #20-21 of all time worldwide.

The Last Knight could feasibly miss the Top 100.

Bay should've quit while he was ahead. Now he'll be forever known for driving the Transformers film franchise into the ground instead of building it up and leaving on a high note.

They should start over and Pixar that shit. Does Paramount even have an animation division? Seriously, I'm totally blanking here and it would be weird for them not to, wouldn't it?

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Toht right after his face melts all the way off?

Yes! That's the one. I knew it was from Raiders but I was thinking of Forestall for some reason.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

But it looks so cool when he transforms!

Yeah, that moment did look pretty cool.

 

[3N16MA]

Did anyone have any clue what was going on in the TF5 trailers? Seemed like a hot pile of mismatched garbage.

 

[hodayathink]

Bay should've quit while he was ahead. Now he'll be forever known for driving the Transformers film franchise into the ground instead of building it up and leaving on a high note.

They should start over and Pixar that shit. Does Paramount even have an animation division? Seriously, I'm totally blanking here and it would be weird for them not to, wouldn't it?

Viacom/Paramount owns Nickelodeon, I think. So while I don't think they have an animated movie division, they could release animated movies.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

And in the same movie they make the claim that Sentinel was the Albert Einstein of the autobots.

There can be only one