I don't know the exact number, I only said half as a guesstimate. My point is that there's a lot. How many? Well, X hasn't shared data about the number of bots, but they did say that they will "die trying" which sounds like a lot to me.
Having a little trouble understanding what you are saying here, can you rephrase?
Relax dude, take a deep breath. We can speculate about the ulterior motives of the ultra wealthy all day long. That may be true, that may not be. My point is not everything they do is money driven. Sometimes its for something greater, like pushing forth an ideology, or for some greater cause, increase public perception, etc. They've already reached the top, so what else is there to do? Musk has already stated that the Twitter takeover was never about making money, it was to restore free speech. He even admitted in retrospect it wasn't financially smart, but it was necessary nonetheless to give the voice back to those being silenced. He's not too worried about the loss, bc any way he has other assets to keep him afloat.
Okay, what if the goal of some investors isn't always to make money, but for something else instead? What if its for something greater?
What hole?
Meanwhile, Musk makes $30 billion in a single day after Tesla crushes earnings. Sorry your expectations got shot down pal. 
What hole?
Big freaking deal.
Jack Dorsey may have turned sour but Saudi Prince def seems happy despite the loss. It's not clear whether or not most were happy with the takeover. He's making money hand over fist, even filed lawsuits against advertisers to claw back in money to X so he can just simply use that money to pay back whatever he owes to the investors, hook line and sinker. Doesn't even have to touch a cent from his Tesla earnings.
Another article mentions that it's not cars either, but profiting from selling carbon credits and selling solar panels and batteries.
www.ft.com
Seems quite wishful to think those suits would make back billions of dollars. He already had to sell billions of Telsa stock to acquire Twitter.Big freaking deal.
He already admitted that he doesn't care if he loses money from X, if that's what it takes to bring back freedom of speech. You make it sound like it's really going to hurt him when it's not. This is a nothingburger. He's on track to become the world's first trillionaire. AI, space exploration, and robotics are going to be huge within the next decade, perhaps even the rest of the century and millenium. And he's leading at the forefront of it all. Aside from his several assets and income streams, he also has plenty of social and venture capital. He sells more EVs than any other company. Not to mention he often gets headlines whenever he says something. He can make a simple tweet and it will create shockwaves in the stock market. He's not going bankrupt. He's not going anywhere. You're just wishing it would happen when that's far from reality.
Oh ok I gotcha.
What is a real nothingburger is the claim of bringing back free speech. You already admitted that isn't what's happening on X. In reality, free speech never went anywhere. People could still talk about whatever somewhere else if Twitter was unavailable. Which is what people are doing now by leaving X. Digital freedom of movement with speech. People weren't forced to use twitter and conform to twitter standards outside of their website.
How much do you think will this have an effect on Elon Musk? He's already projected that his line of Optimus robots could help make Tesla a $25 trillion company . Everyone keeps bringing up that he owes investors money, not realizing that Musk is a very saavy billionaire who knows how to offset his losses while maximizing his gains. After all, he's a billionaire for a reason, right? As
Toons
has pointed out.
It won’t at all other than reputation with banks who are going to eat many billions of dollars in losses.How much do you think will this have an effect on Elon Musk? He's already projected that his line of Optimus robots could help make Tesla a $25 trillion company . Everyone keeps bringing up that he owes investors money, not realizing that Musk is a very saavy billionaire who knows how to offset his losses while maximizing his gains. After all, he's a billionaire for a reason, right? As
It was that quality, reading that it would lock him in, that got me to change my position from Twitter reject to accept his offer when he was trying to buy. $44Billion was ridiculous. Reading the news got me to yell SELL IT!!!! at the screen.
Show me proof that X is on the verge of bankrupcy then. Until then, your wishful thinking has no basis in reality. His loss with X is hardly going to make a dent in his finances.
You think X is financially healthy? Even given the headline? Where do you think it's going? It's losses already have made a dent in his finances to the point he had to make a statement. That's not wishful thinking, that's the reality. He'd be worth a lot more money if he hadn't failed with Twitter. He's already down billions.
During the lead up to buying Twitter he was making larger and larger offers claiming he had the backing. Then when it got to $44billion stock price it sold.....I don't know what in the hell do you mean?
I never said or claimed X was financially healthy. I never disputed that. How much in losses compared to his capital gains and profit surges? Billions? How do you know this for a fact? Show me proof that his losses are in the billions. He would've been worth a lot more money, sure, but I don't think that matters hardly, if any at all. And I'm still waiting for proof that shows X is going bankrupt. It's not. End of story.
As a private company there isn't much public disclosure. You should know that.
I can see you're getting worked up over this
. Chillax, it's just a debate. I'm not even upset, but you clearly are. Your poor grammar and lack of coherence is proof of that. Relax, breathe, think before you type, and make it coherent.
So in other words, you have no proof. Ok. Guess I'm not the only one pulling opinions out my ass then.
That's not it at all.I can see you're getting worked up over this
Of course and in the end Jack Dorsey got the short end of the stick when he backed out at the last minute. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
My opinion is informed by events from the headline of the thread, events from the last few years, and the direction they're going. Yours is entirely based on nothing but denial.
Here's a article to catch up on
Thank you for the link. Also, much appreciated for being more coherent. You did what I advised you to do.Here's a article to catch up on
Elon Musk may have to sell billions in Tesla stock to rescue X
Plunging U.S. revenue at X risks opening up a "massive hole" on its balance sheet that Musk needs to plug to stave off its financial collapse.fortune.com
OK whatever you say boomer. At least you're more coherent this time.
Say you've lost without saying you've lost.
That was basic info you should have known or been able to look up yourself.
My friend, the only thing lost here is you losing your cool by becoming hostile and aggressive, esp when i was very polite to you in the beginning. Instead of directly addressing my arguments, you've been attacking me instead. Simply bc you have no argument. Only a loser would resort to personal attacks rather than making an actual debate.
Not at all. Again you're denying your own behavior and projecting.
Eh… you could fill a page with all of Musk’s “predictions” and “projections” being wrong, way way off, etc. Let alone all of his “free speech absolutist” talk when he hasn’t run Twitter anywhere close to that. Literally banning people for things he said in interviews he wouldn’t do. If you really think me calling him full of shit deserves this response then more power to tou.You're free to believe whatever you want about Musk. All the while he continues to make progress for humanity and makes billions while you sit behind your little screen lashing out criticisms which falls on deaf ears. Some of us do care about his financial well being as we want to see things like the widespread use of EVs, exploring Mars, or robots taking over the world.
I doubt his reputation with the banks would matter much. He still has several other VCs, connections, his fanbase, etc that make up for that.
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He's king of these kind of predictions, this is far from the most egregious lolX was supposed to be a bank by now
Musk told employees that “someone’s entire financial life” will be able to run on X by the end of 2024.
I believe the talk was he wanted/wants to turn it into the Western equivalent of China’s WeChat app which does messaging, is a social media platform and handles payments among other things.So Musk was trying to turn Twitter into PayPal?
Sure, obviously he's got a background in that with Paypal which helps. But WeChat is also Tinder, Uber (for food and transport), Zoom, Amazon and others. He's talked before about thinking WeChat is great and that X should be an "everything" app like that is.
True. Most people use wechat because they have to. Getting banned off that can be like a death sentence. But china does have payment systems like alipay or unionpay. Unionpay is basically the chinese equivalent to visa, alipay is their paypal. In some cases it's not that wechat is an everything app exactly, other things can just piggyback off of it. Companies put their stuff on it in partnership (like sub apps) to increase their revenue, so it just became an everything app
Somehow we've gone full circle and managed to convince conservatives to happily endorse billionaire rhetoricians masquerading as populists in order to help out their billionaire friends, all so we can dunk on gender pronouns together on twitter
