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Bloodborne Reviews Thread

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Chobel

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Unpopular opinion time.

I'm genuinely curious why Bloodborne is getting such high praise - a metacritic score on par with Dark Souls. While I love the Dark Souls series, and they are some of the best games I've played, it just feels the same. The core mechanics are the same and overall it's just more Dark Souls, very little has changed. It's similar to people praising Call of Duty every year when very little has changed and they haven't really done anything differently until Advanced Warfare came out where it brought in a nice change of pace.

I just think there is a double standard going on where other games are shit on if they don't reinvent themselves, while we have Bloodborne that has had minimal changes since Demon Souls came out. I know some people will argue against, and tell me, "BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE GUNS!" To an extent sure, but if you deny this is a Dark Souls-esque clone, you are sadly mistaken.

Regardless, I'm going to play this game because I love the Dark Souls games, but it's just been bugging me.

Not sure if serious.
 

nib95

Banned
This guy?

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So is he generally anti Japanese stuff or what? What does Japan weirds him out even mean? Lol. It's kind of amusingly ironic his Avatar has him proudly showing off the American flag.
 
Eh he's aloud to have an opinion. Then again he seems to be one of the few journalists who doesn't seem to be distancing themselves from Totalbuscuit, they're having a nice conversation about how they both don't like the game.

Very few journalists have distanced themeselves from totalbiscuit. He is friends with Jim sterling and normally has a member of the media talk in his podcast.

Why would you distance yourself from someone who has 400k followers. Seems silly.
 

nynt9

Member
Unpopular opinion time.

I'm genuinely curious why Bloodborne is getting such high praise - a metacritic score on par with Dark Souls. While I love the Dark Souls series, and they are some of the best games I've played, it just feels the same. The core mechanics are the same and overall it's just more Dark Souls, very little has changed. It's similar to people praising Call of Duty every year when very little has changed and they haven't really done anything differently until Advanced Warfare came out where it brought in a nice change of pace.

I just think there is a double standard going on where other games are shit on if they don't reinvent themselves, while we have Bloodborne that has had minimal changes since Demon Souls came out. I know some people will argue against, and tell me, "BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE GUNS!" To an extent sure, but if you deny this is a Dark Souls-esque clone, you are sadly mistaken.

Regardless, I'm going to play this game because I love the Dark Souls games, but it's just been bugging me.

So you haven't played the game, yet you are claiming the game plays the same way as its spiritual predecessors?
 
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someone doesnt like the game

I just went through all of the reviews of the new Fast & The Furious movie. I couldn't believe that none of them brought up the effects of fossil fuels on the environment.

edit: I agree with the premise of his comment, but it is fashioned in an inflammatory manner. Moreover, there is no moral ambiguity about killing evil monsters.
 
I enjoy tea, cupcakes and hugs, but I also don't mind violence in video games because it's not real.

Why even bring up gender?

Sometimes people get angry and say some things that don't make sense upon any real analysis. (Edit: Perhaps I'm giving him too much credit here and he really does believe all this.) The very idea that he's seeing gender in something genderless, is a clear sign he's in defense mode, and is clawing at whatever he can to vilify people striking out against him. This is one of those, "Be careful when you fight with monsters, lest you find yourself becoming one," scenarios.

The notion that violence in games is the main way we seem to interact with them and there's very little criticism on that topic isn't a bad thought, but perhaps picking a game with "blood" in the title and criticizing it for being violent is a bit ridiculous. The horror and violence is kind of the point.
 

Gorillaz

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There really isnt any argument you can make for "this game has too much violence" in Bloodborne. The entire ethos of the game and the soul series it came from was "kill or be killed". This isnt the bioshock infinite 'problem' here, the world your in encourages the violence.
 

Dahlifyr

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That's nonsense, games(and films) are art, and art has always been "political." Art is a reflection and interpretation of life, the ability to create it is one of the greatest achievements man has ever done and instead of pretending that enjoying and critiquing said art destroys it, maybe you should make a good counter argument (hell technically I'm on your side, I don't thin bb should be critics for its violence but at least I'm arguing my point not just whining about the debate itself).


What i mean is that what happens in a game shouldent have a big impact on the outside of the game, its hard for me as an none native speaker of the english language to explain....

Take for example two hockeyplayers fighting on the ice, then a couple of month later they play together in the same national team. They separate what happens on the ice from the world outside of the rink.

Sorry, its really hard to explain my thoughts in a correct matter:)
 
Its whatever- I just hate that we ignore the other side. He's also getting sent the most hateful, caveman bullshit.
Well, that's what he wanted. He wanted that attention, and he got it. Trust me, you don't need to make him a victim here; he clearly enjoys the confrontation. Some people get off on it, especially since social media allows their voice to carry to millions of people.
 

vpance

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I agree with this. It's DS with different skin. Not a bad thing now but this formula will get milked sooner or later.

Wasnt there a game that came out last year which tried to do that? Totally forget the name of it. Anyways, it doesn't matter. Few if any devs are making Souls like games (or Souls worthy games) because at the end of the day it's still a quirky non mainstream genre. Western devs will never set out to make harder than average AAA titles without difficulty options.
 

Dynomutt

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I just went through all of the reviews of the new Fast & The Furious movie. I couldn't believe that none of them brought up the effects of fossil fuels on the environment.

Talking about fossil fuels and movies, thats how I felt about The Land Before Time series. Why focus only on dinosaurs? So simple minded, linear, and lazy. Also when is little foot gonna be big foot?
 

PhatSaqs

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So how long to beat the game's main story? And is the game really difficult or pretty standard?
Like all souls games, its not easy and theres a learning curve as to how you approach an area full of enemies or even single enemies. If youre one that tends to get frustrated that you cant Rambo your way thru a tough section Id say tread carefully.
 
Wasnt there a game that came out last year which tried to do that? Totally forget the name of it. Anyways, it doesn't matter. Few if any devs are making Souls like games (or Souls worthy games) because at the end of the day it's still a quirky non mainstream genre. Western devs will never set out to make harder than average AAA titles without difficulty options.

Lords of the Fallen. Was quite a bad clone. You could beat every enemy by running at them with a shield.
 

Docflem

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What i mean is that what happens in a game shouldent have a big impact on the outside of the game, its hard for me as an none native speaker of the english language to explain....

Take for example two hockeyplayers fighting on the ice, then a couple of month later they play together in the same national team. They separate what happens on the ice from the world outside of the rink.

Sorry, its really hard to explain my thoughts in a correct matter:)

I'm sorry but I don't understand how your example fits here, but I'm happy to keep trying to get through the language barrier. Basically your example doesn't work because art is an expression/an idea, while the two hockey players are just compartmentalizing what happens on the field vs off.
 
That's nonsense, games(and films) are art, and art has always been "political." Art is a reflection and interpretation of life, the ability to create it is one of the greatest achievements man has ever done and instead of pretending that enjoying and critiquing said art destroys it, maybe you should make a good counter argument (hell technically I'm on your side, I don't thin bb should be critics for its violence but at least I'm arguing my point not just whining about the debate itself).

So what is Furious 7 politically stating as an art form?
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
its a console exclusive game..he is a very pc centric gamer..wadda u expect?

I mainly use my PC for gaming too, but have a ps4 and am loving bloodborne. I think most people grew out of console wars shit in middle school, but apparently paid professionals aren't past it yet.
 

kcp12304

Banned
Where's the meltdown? I want to see it!

There is no meltdown. Just people getting salty at other people getting salty. The guy doesn't like the game and I see people are yelling at him on twitter. It's a bit sad.

There are dozen's of 9s & 10s but folks can only focus on the few outlier opinions. People seem to always need a punching bag when someone doesn't like a game they are hyped about.

It doesn't bother me. The reviewers who seem to "get" souls game like the game so that's the important thing for me.
 

vin-buc

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I'm sorry but I don't understand how your example fits here, but I'm happy to keep trying to get through the language barrier. Basically your example doesn't work because art is an expression/an idea, while the two hockey players are just compartmentalizing what happens on the field vs off.

Yes, art is an expression/idea but it's not always political. Some games sure but all? No. There are some people who just over think things.
 

Jomjom

Banned
Can we all just get back on topic now?

Which major outlet reviews are we still waiting on at the moment? Biogamergirl report in yet?
 

Killer

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Wasnt there a game that came out last year which tried to do that? Totally forget the name of it. Anyways, it doesn't matter. Few if any devs are making Souls like games (or Souls worthy games) because at the end of the day it's still a quirky non mainstream genre. Western devs will never set out to make harder than average AAA titles without difficulty options.

Lords of the fallen. DS still better game than that.
 

Dahlifyr

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Yes, art is an expression/idea but it's not always political. Some games sure but all? No. There are some people who just over think things.

This is pretty much what i ment, games/music/movies are entertainment and sometimes they have political message and allt that. But nowadays we do seem to really over think/analyze things alot.

Thx for writing out my thoughts:)
 

kcp12304

Banned
Can we all just get back on topic now?

Which major outlet reviews are we still waiting on at the moment? Biogamergirl report in yet?

Surprising number of big sites (IGN, EuroGamer, Kotaku, Polygon). Glad to see these sites hold back the score so they can get themselves enough time to review the game.
 
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