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[#Phonepunk#]

sounds like they are re-trying a bunch of stuff they attempted during the X Box One's release. for a while you couldn't even play used games on it at all.

 

[Maddux4164]

We DO have offline options folks:

We call it the Xbox One S

Don will never die

 

[Anteeey]

This video proves otherwise and that either the guy claiming online DRM is twitter attention whore for followers or he did not have his Xbox set as his home console.

Yup! Lower the pitchforks.

 

[Flashy Wizard]

Huh?? The S is a digital only console it has to connect to the internet.

Lol my bad. That should’ve read Series X in her room. I understand the Series S because it’s always online but the X....that’s pure bs if true.

 

[Doncabesa]

Absolute bullshit. The guy reset his Xbox entirely after setting it up once so he could see if it had to be online for setup or not, which removes the Home setting and then didn't set it as his home console again.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Its 2020, fucking get over it.

 

[JLB]

The smoking Xbox, now this... russian hackers got unemployed after election and are trying the videogame business?

 

[Abriael_GN]

It's hilarious that some are still responding like this isn't fake news promoted by a disreputable website that writes reports out of random twitters with zero verification

 

[AmateurPong]

Glad to hear that this is unfounded bs.

 

[oldergamer]

I read this and was like, WOT. Now i'm not surprised it wasn't true.

 

[sn0man]

why have an online setup for the beginning anyway? If you've got a disc-based game, you shouldn't have to setup online in the first place. I wish MS would stop trying to make fetch happen with this.

 

[M1chl]

whats a home console? isnt every console a home console?

Nah if you every had a PS4 or X1 you have to set home console for your account. If console have none of those home profiles (which can happend, because probably none of us actually un-homed our own past console), I guess it's doing this stuff, but that's really not on MS.

 

[nowhat]

A reviewer would have picked up on this previously, surely?

I have no idea whether this is true - but I find your idealism quite endearing. Not very realistic necessarily though.

 

[FunkMiller]

The smoking Xbox, now this... russian hackers got unemployed after election and are trying the videogame business?

There‘s a pile of smoking XsXs right next to the uncounted Trump ballots in a dumpster, just off the freeway near Wilmington if anyone’s interested.

 

[MrFunSocks]

why have an online setup for the beginning anyway? If you've got a disc-based game, you shouldn't have to setup online in the first place. I wish MS would stop trying to make fetch happen with this.

Day one patch. If you don’t have internet in 2020 you shouldn’t be dumb enough to buy internet connected electronic devices.

Why isn’t this thread closed and title updated yet? More anti-Xbox FUD as always that’s completely false but allowed to spread like wildfire around here.

 

[Bungie]

This guy is a joke or this is a bug only few people are having. I just tested it & all my games launched fine.

 

[sn0man]

Nah if you every had a PS4 or X1 you have to set home console for your account. If console have none of those home profiles (which can happend, because probably none of us actually un-homed our own past console), I guess it's doing this stuff, but that's really not on MS.

You don't have to do that with any PS1, 2, 3, and PS4; and only with a PS5 Digital Edition (not a disc-based PS5). You can just create a profile and then you can play games. No need to get the internet involved to play stuff you've purchased.

 

[inflation]

Day one patch. If you don’t have internet in 2020 you shouldn’t be dumb enough to buy internet connected electronic devices.

Why isn’t this thread closed and title updated yet? More anti-Xbox FUD as always that’s completely false but allowed to spread like wildfire around here.

There are still hundreds of thousands of people can't access to internet but have a smartphone.

 

[M1chl]

You don't have to do that with any PS1, 2, 3, and PS4; and only with a PS5. You can just create a profile and then you can play games. No need to get the internet involved to play stuff you've purchased.

Well BC games are download from internet anyway? Not sure with X1 games, but with X360, disc were basically just a licence... I don't have problem with that, because games without internet in mind are no longer produced (patches mainly)....

 

[sn0man]

Day one patch. If you don’t have internet in 2020 you shouldn’t be dumb enough to buy internet connected electronic devices.

Why isn’t this thread closed and title updated yet? More anti-Xbox FUD as always that’s completely false but allowed to spread like wildfire around here.

You don't need day 1 patches for PS systems. No FUD here.

 

[PuffyCan]

Some fanboys are really working overtime to spread FUD in the past few days lol

 

[MrFunSocks]

You don't need day 1 patches for PS systems. No FUD here.

No FUD? Apart from the bullshit “always online drm for physical games” FUD you mean?

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

You don't need day 1 patches for PS systems. No FUD here.

Does the PS5 work offline out of the box with no patches?

 

[Flintty]

I smell FUD.

 

[vkbest]

Lol at the usual Nichegamer trying to stir controversy and reporting stuff from a random Twitter account without doing any verification. It's sadly funny that someone still believes these charlatans are worth reading, let alone making a thread out of.



The thread should have ended here.

The question, why do you need set the home console for a Physical disk? That is DRM itself

 

[Chukhopops]

You don't need day 1 patches for PS systems. No FUD here.

Do you have a source for that? Because every reviewer mentioned they didn't even test using the "final" launch firmware, so how could that firmware be on systems which have been sitting in boxes for weeks?

That would be the first console to not have a day 1 firmware or patch for a very long time.

 

[ZehDon]

You don't need day 1 patches for PS systems. No FUD here.

 

[sn0man]

Does the PS5 work offline out of the box with no patches?

Obviously the digital edition needs the internet to get games. The disc edition doesn't need the internet though.

 

[MrFunSocks]

The question, why do you need set the home console for a Physical disk? That is DRM itself

You don’t. This is FUD.

 

[elenapska]

This is confirmed to be FAKE why the thread is still open?

 

[Iced Arcade]

Sooooo needs to set his console to "home"


Good lord people, how do some of you function with a calculator.

 

[sn0man]

Do you have a source for that? Because every reviewer mentioned they didn't even test using the "final" launch firmware, so how could that firmware be on systems which have been sitting in boxes for weeks?

That would be the first console to not have a day 1 firmware or patch for a very long time.

No stories. Just reading the articles from other folks.
"Similar to other Xboxes (and unlike Sony consoles), an online connection is mandatory to get going, and the process here is exactly like Xbox One - which is to say, time-consuming and rather frustrating."
Xbox Series X Console Review - Eurogamer

Edit - Updated with more:
Here is another data point.
"Yes, there's a system software update to download - but it's not mandatory and you're free to examine Sony's early UI if you want to."
PS5 Console Review - Eurogamer

 

[inflation]

Alright guys, now we are one of the Sources on that article. Good work.

 

[RaZoR No1]

whats a home console? isnt every console a home console?

Nope, only if you set it up a a home (main) console.
This is mostly important for your subscriptions and digital library.
On Xbox you get two licenses for digital games.
One for the home console
One for the account.
Therefore it is possible to use one digital game on two Xbox at the same time (game sharing).

First person has to play on the home console and the person / account who bought the game on the non home console.

This applies to all other subscriptions, too (Gamepass, EA Play, Xbox Gold etc.)

Edit: for Physical Disc's it does not matter, if you set it up as a home console or not. The disc itself is the game license

 

[Abriael_GN]

The question, why do you need set the home console for a Physical disk? That is DRM itself

Translation of the above:

"Bohohoooooooooooooooh! evil Microsoft! They make me set the Xbox as home console! I need to find an excuse to preserve some of the misplaced outrage from this trainwreck of a thread!"

 

[vkbest]

Translation of the above:

"Bohohoooooooooooooooh! evil Microsoft! They make me set the Xbox as home console! I need to find an excuse to preserve some of the misplaced outrage from this trainwreck of a thread!"

The question is why do you need internet for a physical game? I think is a simple question. So if you don’t have internet and buy the console, can’t you play?

 

[TBiddy]

Translation of the above:

"Bohohoooooooooooooooh! evil Microsoft! They make me set the Xbox as home console! I need to find an excuse to preserve some of the misplaced outrage from this trainwreck of a thread!"

Whatever it takes it seems. Imagine there are adult people acting like that..

 

[LeftThumbstick]

So much bullshit being posted in here about Xbox in the last two days, it's honestly becoming a joke.

 

[quickwhips]

This doesn't make sense. Either the game had an update to play and didn't have it all downloaded from the disc or something else weird is going on. Home console shouldn't make a difference for physical games if they are downloaded before going off line.

 

[Outrunner]

The question, why do you need set the home console for a Physical disk? That is DRM itself

Indeed. Also the guy says that the console is set to home console.

 

[inflation]

The question is why do you need internet for a physical game? I think is a simple question. So if you don’t have internet and buy the console, can’t you play?

I guess not. You need internet to turn the console on in the first place.

 

[AmateurPong]

Alright guys, now we are one of the Sources on that article. Good work.

I've nevered followed this Nichegamer website, but this seems like something that could have been debunked with a few minutes of testing. You know, doing some minor investigation on their end instead of rushing to put out unverified headlines of things they've "heard" online. I know it goes without saying that games journos are a joke these days, but damn.

 

[Antwix]

Fake news?

Thanks for sharing this video. Truly is fake news.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Indeed. Also the guy says that the console is set to home console.

The guy says a lot of bullshit. It's funny that some would just believe "the guy" lol.

It's already been proven wrong from multiple sources. May want to accept it and move on.

 

[sn0man]

I guess not. You need internet to turn the console on in the first place.

Yes. This was one thing the Xbox One never removed as part of their purging of DRM. Another part is that to create a profile to save your game you need to create an online profile.

I'd love MS to have removed these, or made these at the very least optional. I've got a PC for digital, so it's not like I refuse to go online. I just value the offline features of a console.

The question was, when will Sony do the same thing for PS. So far, the answer is maybe sometime after launch of PS5, but not at launch. (FWIW, Nintendo doesn't require online for the switch either. You can buy carts and just use it, like a SNES, an Xbox 360, and all the consoles of yore.)

 

[Outrunner]

The guy says a lot of bullshit. It's funny that some would just believe "the guy" lol.

It's already been proven wrong from multiple sources. May want to accept it and move on.

multiple sources as credible as him

 

[Abriael_GN]

Alright guys, now we are one of the Sources on that article. Good work.

Yo Nichegamer, if you're reading, what about you verify somedude's tweets before you make a "story" (read: fake news) out of it?

Yanno, it'll save you having to backpedal.

multiple sources as credible as him

Guess some truly are desperate for fake controversy.

 

[sainraja]

So what happens when your internet goes down or on outage, you cant play games ?

My internet was down for about a month or so this year and I did have issues with playing games offline with my console set as the home console. I mention this to clarify another point, you also have to make sure to set the console to "offline" because if you don't do that and some games were marked to be updated, it will not let you play those without connecting.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Are we any closer to the truth 2 pages in?

 

[Abriael_GN]

Are we any closer to the truth 2 pages in?

We hit the truth 6 posts in.