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Rich from DF with the analysis on this one.

So what happens when PlayStation Studios gets to grips with Xbox hardware and how do the results compare with their PS4/PS5 efforts? That's what we're going to find out today as MLB The Show 21 gets a thorough analysis on PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. Some intriguing results here...

Summary incoming:

- PS5 and XsX are native 4k, the game looks identical between the two systems (according to Rich), same textures, post-processing, lighting, shadows, etc. All graphics settings the same. No DRS, holds native 4k.
- Series S - 1080p, possibly lower res textures than XsX and PS5?
- Framerate dips on all platforms, including PS5 and XsX
- PS5 does have framerate advantage, the hard dips happen on both consoles but dip harder on XsX
- Hard dips are mostly exclusive to non-interactive cutscenes.
- Interactive gameplay is mostly 60 with some small dips on both consoles (more frequent small dips on XsX than PS5)
- Series S has similar performance target but less stable than both XsX and PS5

Unless I brainfarted, I don't think he covers loading times

Spoiler

I am honestly just glad that everyone can play the best sports game on the planet. I love this franchise.

 

[Shmunter]

Green guys. You won’t like it here

But if you’re tough enough, bring it on!

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Shmunter]

Green, Japanese sku version of blood!

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

Another one

 

[RaZoR No1]

Did I do right?

 

[Topher]

 

[Shmunter]

It was a Trojan Horse all along. Put it on Xbox, demonstrate PS5 superiority. Destroy Phil.

Jim Ryan is a genius.

Sorry Phil, I’d no longer go gay for you. Too much of a bitch.

 

[Zeroing]

We all know the game is spying on the Xbox hardware learning every “secret sauce” from the Xbox hidden chip and the wonders of directX

joking I couldn’t contain myself

 

[Warnen]

would think Sony would drop this game onto psn+ it’s so embarrassing.

 

[Shmunter]

We all know the game is spying on the Xbox hardware learning every “secret sauce” from the Xbox hidden chip and the wonders of directX

joking I couldn’t contain myself

Comedy gold frankly. This is what these types of threads need

 

[Portugeezer]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

 

[skit_data]

I sell tin foil hats for only $1.

This thread will bring in my yearly income, from all sides

 

[Shmunter]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

Boss move by Jim Ryan.

 

[killatopak]

 

[Topher]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

 

[Zeroing]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

Yes and MS purposefully made the series S underpowered!

 

[rickybooby87]

So...Plays best on PS5?

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

PS5 vs SX: PS5 wins
PS4 Pro vs One X: One X wins

 

[fighterman101]

Looks like the series x and ps5 versions are basically the same except Xbox gamers get to play the game for "free"

 

[sircaw]

I am just happy this is not cricket, I love crickets.

 

[Shmunter]

PS5 vs SX: PS5 wins
PS4 Pro vs One X: One X wins

Begs to reason, One X is more powerful than Pro. Just like PS5 is more powerful than XsX seemingly.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Fuck me, sony cant even make a locked 60 FPS title on these consoles with these last gen looking graphics? awful.

Another one!

Good move from Sony, but overall a great play by MLB in signing the gamepass deal. Both companies got fucked in some way.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

Was waiting for this shit to start

 

[shenmue mugen]

Going to try it on the One X.

 

[FrankWza]

You get what you pay for....

 

[rickybooby87]

Anyone actually know how long it'll stay on GamePass for? Typically, unless first party or super old, they get rotated out right?

 

[Topher]

You get what you pay for....

you also keep what you pay for....

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Unless I brainfarted, I don't think he covers loading times

loading times ps5 8.4s, xsx 11.8s, ps4pro 20.5s

 

[Kazza]

Green guys. You won’t like it here

But if you’re tough enough, bring it on!

You sure about that, bruv? I think it's the Sony bros who need to vacate the thread.

Having the Sony crowd entering this thread in the hope of being consoled by the odd higher framerate is like a dude who comes home to catch his wife getting shagged by his most hated neighbour and who then desperately tries to console himself by making her tell him that he is better in bed

 

[DenchDeckard]

Was waiting for this shit to start

down to 33FPS on xbox in some places. There is no way this game is optimised.

 

[mckmas8808]

Fuck me, sony cant even make a locked 60 FPS title on these consoles with these last gen looking graphics? awful.

Another one!

Good move from Sony, but overall a great play by MLB in signing the gamepass deal. Both companies got fucked in some way.

Come on dude lol

 

[Shmunter]

loading times ps5 8.4s, xsx 11.8s, ps4pro 20.5s

Gfx superiority and SSD superiority. They really went through the checklist thoroughly

 

[Shmunter]

Fuck me, sony cant even make a locked 60 FPS title on these consoles with these last gen looking graphics? awful.

Another one!

Good move from Sony, but overall a great play by MLB in signing the gamepass deal. Both companies got fucked in some way.

Oooh, this guys bringing the goods. Look out!

Nah, lol just messin with ya, you’re alright.

 

[Bramble]

Sony purposefully made it worse on Xbox.

Fun fact: One X is better than Pro version. You hate to see it.

 

[Shmunter]

You sure about that, bruv? I think it's the Sony bros who need to vacate the thread.

Having the Sony crowd entering this thread in the hope of being consoled by the odd higher framerate is like a dude who comes home to catch his wife getting shagged by his most hated neighbour and who then desperately tries to console himself by making her tell him that he is better in bed

That absolutely made no sense, but I still liked it

 

[DenchDeckard]

Come on dude lol

I'm just playing really, here for the fun on this one.

 

[Fess]

Phew I’m surprised it was this close, Sony have serious balls lol

 

[Shmunter]

Think that’s representing Phil, tearing up.....*sniff*

 

[Heisenberg007]

Runs better on PS5 than XSX = "Sony purposefully made it worse on XSX".

Runs better on Xbox One X than PS4 Pro = "Well, One X is more powerful than PS4 Pro after all"

 

[Topher]

... is like a dude who comes home to catch his wife getting shagged by his most hated neighbour and who then desperately tries to console himself by making her tell him that he is better in bed

That's rather specific.

 

[skit_data]

I really do wonder about all these ”technical parity” stuff from the ”Sony is evil because marketing agreements on RE8”-thread.

Seeing as Sony publishes the game on their platforms and MLB themselves publishes the game on other platforms, how the hell do these contracts look? Thats a contract I want to see.

 

[isoRhythm]

like a dude who comes home to catch his wife getting shagged by his most hated neighbour and who then desperately tries to console himself by making her tell him that he is better in bed

If you wanna talk, we're here for you

 

[SlimySnake]

There are three explanations for the stark disparity in performance.
1) Despite using PC parts, consoles are still not closed box PCs despite some veterans claim. There is clearly some secret sauce or at least some differences here. Otherwise a 12 tflops GPU with a 3.6 ghz cpu with faster ram bandwidth can never beat out a lower speced GPU from the same GPU family.
2) XSX has a bottleneck somewhere because these drops shouldn't happen regardless of how this thing is optimized for PS consoles. It's a straight port of a PS4 game running on a PS5 which might share some APIs but it's running on a completely different hardware architecture than the PS4 Pro.
3) DirectX vs OpenGL APIs?

I really fucking wish they had ported this on PC so we could see how this would run on a 12 tflops RDNA 2.0 gpu because that would also be using DirectX APIs which would confirm that their codebase isnt optimized for DirectX.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

This game shouldn't be dropping frames on anything. Shit job done by whoever made it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

You guys can have the extra fraction of a frame per second. I just played on GP the other day with the 3 year $1 upgrade. Who wants to pay $70? lol

 

[killatopak]

Well like Rich said, it could be growing pains of studio used to doing exclusive games on a console who now has to develop it on multiplatform not even a year into next gen.

 

[Gamerguy84]

This thread

 

[Kilau]

Do they cover the base consoles? Can’t watch right now.

 

[fighterman101]

This is actually a good port for xbox series x, I don't get the whole "Sony sabotage the game" outburst is coming from. This is also Sony first time working on an xbox game and biggest difference between the two seems to be cutscene FPS which doesn't really affect the game play. In fact, most people just skip the cutscenes to play the game lol.

My biggest concern is the online and how well it works for xbox. Haven't tried the online, but if it sucks than we have a bigger issue.