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[The Chairman]

I will never get over the stupidity of this game starring a black guy. You can just imagine when these woke morons found the Yasuke story and realised they could shoe-horn a black guy in. They must have felt like they hit the mother-lode.

Yasuke story is not even real, it was fabricated by a fraud.

Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested

The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u

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[ikbalCO]

Well, then he shouldn’t play it

I am really amazed how i went complete 180 on this game and now it is one of my most anticipated games of this busy year. Japanese believing their culture is the most sacred and there can never be any interpretion other than the one they approve is boring at this point.

Also karage is the worst chicken dish ever. Sorry for the disrespect holy priest

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

My take is devs should have absolute freedom to make what they want and gamer are also free like the game or not.

Yes, but there's a difference between freedom of speech and freedom of expression (art) on one hand, and mean spirited, intentional disrespect towards a foreign culture on the other. I am as much against censorship and pro freedom of speech as most other users on GAF, but I don't think that these issues apply here. The developer of this game consciously mocked Japanese culture with bad intend, and that's not OK. If the dev was making some kind of point, be it politically or for artistic reasons, that'd be OK in my book. But that's not the case.

 

[Danjin44]

I'd argue it's pretty accurate. But I'm agnostic and had some bad experiences so some bias on my part (and a little drunk >_>)

Would love to give YHVH a punch in the face like you can in II and IV Apocalypse

Spoiler: Off topic.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The game should just be banned at this point.

 

[GymWolf]

Delicate snowflakes, get fucked, i'm gonna destroy every shrine on purpose now.

 

[GymWolf]

Obaba wasn't ready for Tyrone man.

 

[Hudo]

Uhm.... aren't the Japanese also guilty of doing shit like this in their games and manga and anime? I think it's quite hypocritical, imho.

Or just clever marketing by Ubisoft in this case.

 

[Kikorin]

Destruction and gore seems to be the only interesting thing about this game, so I'm happy I can destroy shrines too after all.

 

[Jakk]

Yes, but there's a difference between freedom of speech and freedom of expression (art) on one hand, and mean spirited, intentional disrespect towards a foreign culture on the other. I am as much against censorship and pro freedom of speech as most other users on GAF, but I don't think that these issues apply here. The developer of this game consciously mocked Japanese culture with bad intend, and that's not OK. If the dev was making some kind of point, be it politically or for artistic reasons, that'd be OK in my book. But that's not the case.

What is the difference exactly? It's a fucking video game.

Like I said before, people who get so offended by a religious site being destroyed in a game should seek treatment. The same goes for people who think LGBT, black people or some other minorities shouldn't be made fun of.

 

[NeoLed]

Yes, but there's a difference between freedom of speech and freedom of expression (art) on one hand, and mean spirited, intentional disrespect towards a foreign culture on the other. I am as much against censorship and pro freedom of speech as most other users on GAF, but I don't think that these issues apply here. The developer of this game consciously mocked Japanese culture with bad intend, and that's not OK. If the dev was making some kind of point, be it politically or for artistic reasons, that'd be OK in my book. But that's not the case.

What's your example of that?

 

[MrJangles]

Dunno what this is about but the Japanese are some of the most pig ignorant racist cunts on the planet so fuck them.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

EDIT: Nah, shit ain't worth it.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

What is the difference exactly? It's a fucking video game.

Like I said before, people who get so offended by a religious site being destroyed in a game should seek treatment. The same goes for people who think LGBT, black people or some other minorities shouldn't be made fun of.

a) Would you say this applies to film, literature, advertisements and music as well? Where do you draw the line? Are you contesting the notion that video games are art and culturally relevant, or the notion that it's a bad idea to intentionally insult other people without good reason (as we've established before, sometimes there are)?

b) Just because your own personal beliefs and moral intuitions don't allow you to empathize with the way other people think doesn't mean that human beings who function differently need "treatment". They might be well adjusted and perfectly healthy. Not everyone who doesn't think like you is sick or insane.

 

[a'la mode]

The developer of this game consciously mocked Japanese culture with bad intend, and that's not OK.

Ubi and AC are garbage tier but making things up in your head and presenting them as some kind of immutable facts is either bad intent, or just plain idiocy.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Ubi and AC are garbage tier but making things up in your head and presenting them as some kind of immutable facts is either bad intent, or just plain idiocy.

Or.. you know.. a different conclusion than the one you came to?

 

[Danjin44]

EDIT: Nah, shit ain't worth it.

my post wasn’t about what we discussing, I just notice your avatar and reminded me of trailer I saw few days ago.

 

[a'la mode]

Or.. you know.. a different conclusion than the one you came to?

You made the unsubstantiated claim that this is what it's about, so it's your job to prove your claim right. It's not on me to prove your claim wrong. Otherwise your "conclusion" is exactly what it's smelling like, just some opinionated, unsubstantiated nonsense you cooked up in your head.

This is really babby level logic and if you continue to argue this without substantiating your claim then you are clearly operating in bad faith, so what's it gonna be?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

You made the unsubstantiated claim that this is what it's about, so it's your job to prove your claim right. It's not on me to prove your claim wrong. Otherwise your "conclusion" is exactly what it's smelling like, just some opinionated, unsubstantiated nonsense you cooked up in your head.

This is really babby level logic and if you continue to argue this without substantiating your claim then you are clearly operating in bad faith, so what's it gonna be?

OK, random raging male teenager on the internet

 

[a'la mode]

OK, random raging male teenager on the internet

Thanks for participating!

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[SJRB]

Why won't these Japanese people just shut the hell up and let us do whatever we want with their culture, traditions and history?

The world is our playground, didn't they get the memo? Culture and heritage is nonsense and nothing but toilet paper for the modern western man. You're not supposed to respect culture or your history but mock, ridicule, disrespect and abuse it every chance you get.

 

[RagnarokIV]

despite being not japanese , i grew up playing japanese videogames and thus videogames saved my life as i won't be here to type this
i won't spend a cent on this game or download it when its on ps plus , this is my own decision

 

[DavidGzz]

Hory sheet, gotta buy it right away and stay offline so I can beat it before they make any changes. Can I kill all civilians with the fatality where you chop off both arms and then their heads? This "outrage" is going to sell so many copies.

 

[Jakk]

a) Would you say this applies to film, literature, advertisements and music as well? Where do you draw the line? Are you contesting the notion that video games are art and culturally relevant, or the notion that it's a bad idea to intentionally insult other people without good reason (as we've established before, sometimes there are)?

b) Just because your own personal beliefs and moral intuitions don't allow you to empathize with the way other people think doesn't mean that human beings who function differently need "treatment". They might be well adjusted and perfectly healthy. Not everyone who doesn't think like you is sick or insane.

a) I think it applies to other art forms as well. All of them should be allowed to mock or insult whatever culture they want. Who is the arbiter of what is a good reason? Also, you seem to be acting as if the game was some super-insulting parody of the Japanese culture. Isn't all of this drama just because of destroyable shrines in the open world. Meaning it's not even a mission?

b) Now you are just making stuff up. I never said everyone who doesn't think like me is sick or insane.

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

Ubisoft is racist inside, so what's the f*cking point of this!!!

 

[LazyParrot]

Eh, I'm sure you could find some pastor or priest who'd get just as mad about Doom or whatever.

Japanese who consider the game offensive won't buy it. If the sentiment is prevalent enough it'll reflect in the sales numbers and that's all that matters in the end.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

my post wasn’t about what we discussing, I just notice your avatar and remind me of trailer I saw few days ago.

Oh, well in that case. I read the manga (it's not finished but I got to the recent translated chapter) after seeing that trailer and got hooked lol. You should give it a try.

 

[neocycle]

Whatever. Religion deserves no respect.

 

[Hookshot]

Japanese companies make anime where nuns are raped.

Ubisoft just had a game where nun (and others) raping Vikings were the heroes.

 

[freemandos]

Well, next time Ubisoft and journalists shouldn't use the "historical accuracy" as an excuse for defending a controversial decision like this. Because otherwise, well, here's the result.

 

[BbMajor7th]

It's a silly reaction from someone who doesn't understand the context of video games. Still, companies like Ubisoft, that megaphone loudly about cultural respect, representation and inclusivity, are powerless to fight back.

 

[MMaRsu]

Once again, oh no, you can destroy some furniture in a fake video game shrine

 

[Danjin44]

Oh, well in that case. I read the manga (it's not finished but I got to the recent translated chapter) after seeing that trailer and got hooked lol. You should give it a try.

That trailer was just pilot but I’m hoping the animation quality matches the trailer, if so I’m definitely watching it.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

The Japanese people are really angry about this game

Here is the full translated video.

I'm angry too. Japan is beautiful, and its people are very beautiful.

They just come to harass people, and it's not fair.

It's good that Japan is fighting for its honor.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

My man Adam:
Yasuke feels so good most badass assassin ever! Imma infiltrating this fortress and fuck all the shrines!

Wait what, I can't even walk on the rope?

How could you walk on a rope, if you have 100 kg of pure armor.

 

[Spiral1407]

"You control the buttons you press"

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

As much as I hate all the dei garbage and pandering or people calling everything racist like these Japanese clowns.

I bet 100% If the character was Japanese they wouldn't be complaining, and their outrage is because it's a black guy.

Granted they never should have used a black guy to start with.

 

[Lethal01]

Yasuke story is not even real, it was fabricated by a fraud.

Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested

The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u

itc.ua

No, Yasuke was very real, some people attributed some details fro Thomas Lockleys fictional story about him to his real history most people knew nothing about that and only knew the main points wwhich are true.

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Ubi just cant get a win.

They've gotta rethink how they create games, cause it aint working.

 

[ZehDon]

I don't actually think this is something to consider - devs should be free to make whatever they want, suck it up if you don't like it - but I'm laughing at how far this has gone. Like, what the fuck? What started as, effectively, stunt casting for the main protagonist via western virtue signalling has devolved into Government inquiries and Japanese virtue signalling. Ubisoft's on fucking life support and their one hope at surviving is being brigaded hard because they curtailed to made up western non-sense. One for the text books.

 

[Pandawan]

I don't like AC Shadows and I wish it to fail so Ubisoft can finally get a grip on reality or go bankrupt. and sell their IPs to someone who knows how to make games.

But I don't care if this game is 1000% culturally accurate. Like any game.

My country's culture has always been terribly represented in games and movies. So what? Force all developers to cater to the wishes of every history buff in the world to make sure the cultures they depict in their games are accurate, or what? No, let the developers just think about how to make good games, and not being forced to make them 1000% historically accurate

If you dig into Nioh, Rise of Ronin, Sekiro or anything else, you'll find just as many inaccuracies. No one wants to dig that deep into those games, but AC Shadows has become a scapegoat. They're just riding the AC Shadows hate trend.

In most of my posts i hate on DIE but this Yasuke drama is cringe either. The problem is that it is again forced diversity not that a samurai can't be black. Samurai can be whoever devs want in their games.

 

[MMaRsu]

No, Yasuke was very real, some people attributed some details fro Thomas Lockleys fictional story about him to his real history most people knew nothing about that and only knew the main points wwhich are true.

British Thomas Lockley, the author of the work, is a professor at Japan’s Nihon University. The book was considered the main source on Yasuke’s life in Japan. The Nippon Journal invited historians and found out that the author had been editing facts about Yasuke on «Wikipedia» since 2015. Lockley did this incognito to promote his own book, which was published in 2019. This casts doubt on everything in African Samurai.

 

[MMaRsu]

I don't like AC Shadows and I wish it to fail so Ubisoft can finally get a grip on reality or go bankrupt. and sell their IPs to someone who knows how to make games.

But screw him and this cry over his culture either. I don't care if this game is 1000% culturally accurate. Like any game.

My country's culture has always been terribly represented in games and movies. So what? Force all developers to cater to the wishes of every history buff in the world to make sure the cultures they depict in their games are accurate, or what? No, let the developers just think about how to make good games, and not being forced to make them 1000% historically accurate

If you dig into Nioh, Rise of Ronin, Sekiro or anything else, you'll find just as many inaccuracies. No one wants to dig that deep into those games, but AC Shadows has become a scapegoat. They're just riding the AC Shadows hate trend.

In most of my posts i hate on DIE but this Yasuke drama is cringe either. The problem is that it is again forced diversity not that a samurai can't be black. Samurai can be whoever devs want in their games.

I think this stuff was sent to them by grifters like Grummz etc to drum up negative attention to AC.

 

[Pandawan]

What next? Germans will demand to respect their history and never again make movies like Inglourious Basterds?

 

[Windle Poons]

What next? Germans will demand to respect their history and never again make movies like Inglourious Basterds?

With history being re-written quite possibly yes - it will be the evil allies fault.

 

[DelireMan7]

I am be insensitive but it reminds me some discussion on violent games where people had a problem when it comes to kill animals. "Ho no ! I have to kill a dog ! That's horrible and shouldn't not be allow !" but they have no problem murdering dozens of humans.

Here it's the same, killing or drawing weapons in a shrine is unacceptable but overall killing humans in other part of the game is fine.

 

[Lethal01]

MMaRsu Yeah I read what was on the web page and was paying attention for the las couple years as this story developed so I already knew this..

what I said remains true. Thomas Lockley work did cause some misinformation on details of Yasuke's life to be spread the Yasuke is a real, recorded historical figure ant the majority of people have only heard true details about him.

Even people that Use Lockley as a source for their video and such usually only quote the basic knowledge wwhich is true and.

 

[Pandawan]

Hahaha. Or another example. Just imagine Russians will be furious that METAL GEAR SOLID Δ is set in Russia (USSR), but the game is set in the f-ing jungle. The jungle. In Russia. We should demand that everything be accurate! Make it in the snow! And everyone should drink vodka!

 

[Danjin44]

If you dig into Nioh, Rise of Ronin, Sekiro or anything else, you'll find just as many inaccuracies

killing or drawing weapons in a shrine is unacceptable but overall killing humans in other part of the game is fine.

I LOVE Sekiro it’s one of my favourite games ever but in that game you also go to shrines and kill monks who gone corrupt…..Is Sekiro insulting Japanese culture?